disappointed by Foton

**allangee** · April 4th, 2012 05:47 PM

Personally, I sold foton to more than 10 clients last year. My company has sold more than 30 foton vehicles.

77% of my clients have complained about headlight lenses burnt, power window malfunctioning, A/C is not functioning well, engine starter problems and couple more...

Foton looks good on the outside. don't be fooled. Before you buy one, compare what you can save in buying a cheap quality vehicle and what you paid more for a reliable, durable and known vehicle brand.

**Newcomer123** · April 5th, 2012 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by allangee

Personally, I sold foton to more than 10 clients last year. My company has sold more than 30 foton vehicles.

77% of my clients have complained about headlight lenses burnt, power window malfunctioning, A/C is not functioning well, engine starter problems and couple more...

Foton looks good on the outside. don't be fooled. Before you buy one, compare what you can save in buying a cheap quality vehicle and what you paid more for a reliable, durable and known vehicle brand.

Dumadating ba dito yan nang buo na o hiwa-hiwalay?

Di kaya yung re-assembly nyan sa Pilipinas ang may problema, kung yan ay dito na nga lang binubuo? Yang mga binanggit mo kasing mga problema ay mukhang sintomas ng maluwag o di maayos ang pag-kabit, at hindi dahil mahina ang produkto. Tiradang tabi-tabi lang ba? Napapaisip lang...

**renzo_d10** · April 6th, 2012 10:16 AM

Yung mga taong ganyan ugali dapat hindi na binibigyan ng benefit of the doubt

Halata naman from his posts na may agenda siya somehow

Siguro nathreaten sa foton thunder...

**Ronronsantos** · April 18th, 2012 03:05 AM

Sa friday, magte-test drive kami ng foton view. Magpopost na lang ako photos dito at additional comments ko after ko masubukan.

So far ok first impression ko sa foton view compared sa isuzu ivan na natestdrive ko na.

2 color ng foton view nakita ko sa showroom. Mas maganda para sakin yung silver kaysa sa white.

Bilib din ako sa luwag ng legroom at headroom compared sa hi ace commuter at ivan. Pwede mo rin ma adjust some seats to move sideways para di masyado compressed at dikit sa katabi mo. May headrest lahat ng seats at pwede recline lahat. May screws mga seat at pwede mo daw baklasin kung gusto mo kargahan ng cargo yung likod for more space.

May maliit na fire extinguisher din na free.

So far, 2 pa lang negative napuna ko. Mahina fan ng aircon kahit nakatodo na lalo sa rear a/c. Yung sa harap na aircon, acceptable naman lakas ng hangin at lamig. Yung rear a/c medyo matagal bago mo maramdaman lamig. Sabi nila sanden daw aircon. Anyway, naka idle lang kami noong nagtest ng a/c. Di pwede umusad dahil nasa loob kami ng showroom. Mas tahimik din makina at lesser vibration nitong foton compared sa isuzu ivan.

Isa pang nakita kong problem ay parang madali makalas certain parts ng van tulad ng rear vents ng aircon, headlight projector, at yung mga rubber na nakapaligid sa windows. Parang di sakto fit ng parts at parang dapat lagyan ng epoxy para di matanggal.

Tinanong ko sales agent kung ano makina. Sabi nya isuzu technology daw. Ibig sabihin ba ay clone ng isuzu engine yun? All engine parts ba ay china at aasembled in china? Parang impression ko kasi ay humingi lang sila permission sa isuzu para gayahin o reverse engineer yung makina ng isuZu. Sabi din inter changeable daw parts ng makina sa orig isuzu parts in case may masira.

**Fotonista** · April 18th, 2012 09:37 AM

Napansin ko din yan boss Ronronsantos, yung aircon vent nya, flimsy, madaling luluwag, so far ang ginawa ko nilagyan ko ng double adhesive sa loob ng vent para magkaroon ng tension at di basta basta bumababa. Also yung aircon ko parang ang tagal na lumamig, pero once lumamig eh ok naman (di ko lang alam kung dahil sa panahon kaya matagal lumamig).

Also, try to observe the suspension system, balita ko medyo di maganda at matagtag sya. Another thing is it's braking power, medyo mahina daw.

**Ronronsantos** · April 18th, 2012 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by Fotonista

Napansin ko din yan boss Ronronsantos, yung aircon vent nya, flimsy, madaling luluwag, so far ang ginawa ko nilagyan ko ng double adhesive sa loob ng vent para magkaroon ng tension at di basta basta bumababa. Also yung aircon ko parang ang tagal na lumamig, pero once lumamig eh ok naman (di ko lang alam kung dahil sa panahon kaya matagal lumamig).

Also, try to observe the suspension system, balita ko medyo di maganda at matagtag sya. Another thing is it's braking power, medyo mahina daw.

Isasama ko buong barkada sa pagtest drive ko para malaman kung ok ride at suspension. Sana rin hwag umulan para masubok talaga lakas ng aircon na puno ng sakay sa tanghali.

Parang kaunti foton owners na nagpopost dito. Sana dumami para madagdagan feedbacks. Nakakatakot kc magkamali sa pagbili ng vehicle. Meron ako bad aftersales experience sa honda. Sobrang dami naging problema ng mismong car at pati accesories na kinabit mismo sa casa at sobrang tagal bago maayos lahat. Dahilan sakin ng honda ay from japan at new model daw unit na nabili ko kaya di daw nila alam marami magkakaproblems. Pakiramdam ko di nila pinaghandaan at pinag aralan mabuti yung new units from japan bago nila binenta sa tao. Since nabili ko na unit at nabayaran ko ba accesories, di ko na pwede isauli.

Naisip ko, kung nangyayari ang ganun sa well-established na car company, mas may tendency na mangyari sa new companies dito sa pinas. Kaya ko naman tanggapin na yung quality ng china made vehicles ay di katulad ng japan vehicles at maaaring masira anytime. Sana lang di totoo yung mga nabasa ko dito na ang tagal mag order ng parts from china kapag nasira.

If ever decided na ako bumili foton view van, saan ba ok na after-sales service na casa nila at saan may pinakamagandang deal? 2 lang kc inaalok sakin option ng napuntahan ko na casa. Yung limited at yung basic. Di ko naman kailangan dvd, reverse camera, at rear park sensors nila. Mas mahal ng p150,000+ srp yung limited van nila conpared sa basic van tapos wala naman ibang additional feature kundi yung nabanggit ko.

Gusto ko sanang package ay all-in sa basic na van nila (p888,000 srp) .

*fotonista, Ganyan din ba Kinuha mo package sa kanila?

**Fotonista** · April 19th, 2012 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Ronronsantos

Isasama ko buong barkada sa pagtest drive ko para malaman kung ok ride at suspension. Sana rin hwag umulan para masubok talaga lakas ng aircon na puno ng sakay sa tanghali.

Parang kaunti foton owners na nagpopost dito. Sana dumami para madagdagan feedbacks. Nakakatakot kc magkamali sa pagbili ng vehicle. Meron ako bad aftersales experience sa honda. Sobrang dami naging problema ng mismong car at pati accesories na kinabit mismo sa casa at sobrang tagal bago maayos lahat. Dahilan sakin ng honda ay from japan at new model daw unit na nabili ko kaya di daw nila alam marami magkakaproblems. Pakiramdam ko di nila pinaghandaan at pinag aralan mabuti yung new units from japan bago nila binenta sa tao. Since nabili ko na unit at nabayaran ko ba accesories, di ko na pwede isauli.

Naisip ko, kung nangyayari ang ganun sa well-established na car company, mas may tendency na mangyari sa new companies dito sa pinas. Kaya ko naman tanggapin na yung quality ng china made vehicles ay di katulad ng japan vehicles at maaaring masira anytime. Sana lang di totoo yung mga nabasa ko dito na ang tagal mag order ng parts from china kapag nasira.

If ever decided na ako bumili foton view van, saan ba ok na after-sales service na casa nila at saan may pinakamagandang deal? 2 lang kc inaalok sakin option ng napuntahan ko na casa. Yung limited at yung basic. Di ko naman kailangan dvd, reverse camera, at rear park sensors nila. Mas mahal ng p150,000+ srp yung limited van nila conpared sa basic van tapos wala naman ibang additional feature kundi yung nabanggit ko.

Gusto ko sanang package ay all-in sa basic na van nila (p888,000 srp) .

*fotonista, Ganyan din ba Kinuha mo package sa kanila?

Actually, what I got from them was the very basic package for the Blizzard 4x2 (srp 673,000.00). Their promo includes 3yr LTO reg, Comprehensive Insurance and Chattel. With the Blizzard's basic package, it has a 2DIN typical stereo (which I replaced immediately), a digital in/out temp sa rearview mirror (which I think is not that accurate), backing sensor (which is really a plus for me because of it's size, hirap mag tantya ng pag backup), the "auto close window" feature once you lock the doors (not really a "must" but it's a plus if you ask me).

I got the Blizzard sa Munoz Casa and my Agent is Lhala. Service is being handled naman sa Balintawak Service Center (I believe this is their main branch). From the 1000Km PMS up to 20,000Km PMS sa kanila ko dinadala and all I can say is that the service and parts are "fairly priced", excellent based on their charge and staff are very friendly (from their mechanic up to the manager). They listen to what the customer wants and suggests, they provide options and they give discounts on parts. Backjobs (which I encountered twice, though not that major) are entertained quite good, just be sure to schedule ahead every time you will visit them.

I haven't experienced going to CASA's of the big players (Japan Automobiles), our first car was the Korean Kia Pride GTX A/T, which was bought brand new way back 1999 (mahirap lang kami, di afford ang Japanese Cars

). We've exhausted the 100K/3yr warranty of the former vehicle and after visiting several branches, we felt that it's not practical to have the car serviced sa CASA because of the widely available parts. Though I still have a long way with the Foton (just had my 20K PMS), Parts and Service from CASA is still affordable (they gave me the cost of services up to 100K so I'll have an idea of the expenses) so I might stick to them (for now).

With how the CAI (Chinese Automotive Industry) hitting the Country's market like storm, replacement parts would probably ramp up on our suking "auto supply" so probably by end of this year, we will not be tied up to the CASA in getting parts particularly the exterior (headlights, tail lights, etc.). Engine internals, suspension and the likes are already available naman at least for the Foton (due to it's "Isuzu technology"), ewan ko lang sa competitors (Great Wall, JMC, etc.) because I haven't really had the chance to look into them.

**nivraarvin** · August 7th, 2013 02:22 AM

I had a chat with an autoparts store personnel here at Antipolo while buying parts for our L300 and Isuzu NHR.

I was curious about the supply of Hyundai H100 (yung parang L300) spare parts and asked him if they have stocks available. The guy said they have spare parts for everything except Foton.

**calinayan** · August 10th, 2013 12:56 AM

kala ko ang engine ng foton ay the same with the isuzu engine.. bat ng ka ganun na walang pang foton?
any one who has experience with foton truck?

**darkheim6900** · August 30th, 2013 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by calinayan

kala ko ang engine ng foton ay the same with the isuzu engine.. bat ng ka ganun na walang pang foton?
any one who has experience with foton truck?

sa palagay ko hindi totoo na isuzu engine yan. anu ba kayo hindi papayag ang isuzu. sinabi lang nila yan para sa sales. sure naman na kinopya nila ung engine ng isuzu kaya pag nasira ang foton niyo pwede niyo palitan na ng isuzu kasi kamukhang kamukha niya. kami meron kami 5 china engine waterpump siya. kamukha kamukha siya ng yanmar na water pumps. nung nasira ung pyesa ng china engine namin pinagcompare namin sa orig na yanmar parehong pareho at pwede gamitin kaso hindi lang namin binili kasi npaka mahal naman pyesa ng yanmar. dapat nga iboycot niyo ung mga china products na "obvious na clone lang product nila" katulad ng motor na rusi kamukhang kamukha ng mga honda. natawa nga ako dun sa electrician namin kumuha siya ng rusi na hulugan wala man isang taon nabenta na sa junkshop ung motor niya hanggang ngayun sinisingil pa rin siya ng rusi. sagot niya dun sa naniningil, ung binayad ko pampagawa ng motor na binigay niyo nakabili na sana ako ng suzuki raider 150. ako para sakin advice ko sa mga bibili ng truck bumili nalang kayo sa subic na mga 2nd hand galing japan. kami dun kami bumibili ng mga truck reliable na reliable walang sakit sa ulo. ang iba bibili ng brand new na china kasi mura at dahil brandnew low maintainance daw pero baligtad un sigurado sakit sa ulo mga china. kami meron kami 4 na truck galing japan halos 10yrs na samin ang nasira lang eh alternator bukod dun wala na. payo ko lang po yan sa experience namin.

sa subic 300k to 500k ung mga elf canter 600k to 800k naman ung mga forward. pwede naman din yata finance sa bangko yan eh.