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    no doubt about the campi reports... though the figure might really be small.
    i see 1-2 Focus a day...3 is the max...
    have seen lancer 1.8 once last month, a sentra 180gt once last 2-3 months ago...
    and an optra LT........teka...kelan na nga ba yun? ;p LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by basti08
    no doubt about the campi reports... though the figure might really be small.
    i see 1-2 Focus a day...3 is the max...
    have seen lancer 1.8 once last month, a sentra 180gt once last 2-3 months ago...
    and an optra LT........teka...kelan na nga ba yun? ;p LOL
    Well, CAMPI counts current sales. I see more 180GTs and Optra 1.8s than Focuses (Focii?), BUT, as I said, these are previous sales.

    If we count OVERALL sales, that would be a 90% market share for Toyota.

    Sold out? Grabeh...

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    twice palang ako nakakakita ng focus hatch sa road. Focus sedan, same as basti, Optra 1.8 mga 3/week, sentra 180gt last akong nakakita last month pa ata. MX lancer madami dito sa dagupan.

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    Just my 2 sentimos ...

    It's true that the Ford name has not been equated with quality autos for a
    long time (if ever). It's even earned the moniker FORD = Found On Road Dead.
    But the Focus is different. First, it finds its roots in WRC (much like the
    Subaru WRX and the Lancer Evolution series). I'm sure the commercial Focus
    is a much detuned version of the WRC version, but I'm hoping many of its
    subsystems remain intact. The Duratec 20 engine is a pretty good engine.

    One other thing to consider is that in 2005, the Ford Focus came out on top
    in its class in the independent Consumer Reports magazine. CR is known to
    never take advertising money from manufacturers and their reputation as an
    independent, high-quality reports outfit is one they're careful to maintain.
    The factors they consider include performance, maintenance, cost.

    I think it's a great car. It's actually my second choice for cars when I was
    in the market for one.

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    Saw a white focus sport earlier. very pretty! Nice rear fogs too!

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    it's 58% of a really tiny pie (i take it that by "segment", they meant the 1.8-liter-engined compacts)

    the clincher is, of course, that the 1.8-liter versions of the Altis, Sentra, Optra et al all have 1.6-liter variants that are volume sellers.

    Comparing model for model (as is more appropriate, rather than insisting on the antiquated engine-displacement segmentation), the Focus of course lags waaaaay behind the Altis and company in sales.

    But don't let the sales numbers fool you, the Focus is a better car than practically all of its rivals, imo.

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    no remote hood, fuel and trunk release really bugs me, it just destroys the otherwise excellent appeal of the focus

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBimmer
    no remote hood, fuel and trunk release really bugs me, it just destroys the otherwise excellent appeal of the focus
    What do you mean by "remote"? Do you mean an electronic remote opener like on a key fob? If so, I don't see a lot cars with hood and fuel door releases. There's not as much use for a remote hood and fuel door opener as there is for passenger and trunk. I find the trunk release pretty useful, though. Specially when I'm coming in bringing groceries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richip
    What do you mean by "remote"? Do you mean an electronic remote opener like on a key fob? If so, I don't see a lot cars with hood and fuel door releases. There's not as much use for a remote hood and fuel door opener as there is for passenger and trunk. I find the trunk release pretty useful, though. Specially when I'm coming in bringing groceries.
    i think what BB means is a manual knob or lever thingamajig inside the car that you pull or whatever to release the hood, fuel or trunk like almost in any other car you can think of.
    AFAIK, the Focus has none of those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basti08
    i think what BB means is a manual knob or lever thingamajig inside the car that you pull or whatever to release the hood, fuel or trunk like almost in any other car you can think of.
    AFAIK, the Focus has none of those.
    yep, more appropriate term would be trunk, hood and fuel cover release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBimmer
    yep, more appropriate term would be trunk, hood and fuel cover release.
    That was my first guess, pero 'di ako makapaniwalang walang in-car hood release. So nasaan yung release ng hood? Nasa hood mismo? Baka naman pagbalik ng may-ari sa paradahan, wala nang makina niya, ;)

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    the Focus is very teutonic. very German. nice car. but something is lacking... maybe apeal? not sure.

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    It's not a big deal in the Focus' core market, Europe. People are used to externally operated mechanisms, as they're used to self-service gas stations. (Even the Jazz has an externally opened gas door). I agree that it's a bad idea to have a latched grille logo... I can hardly count the number of times someone has tried to steal the hinged logo off the back of our Sentra... and that had a sturdier hinge on it.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    well maybe ford sees these things differently, or baka thats the quirks of euro cars coz the bimmer also has weird fuel cover mechanism that has its own actuator lock that moves in conjunction with the power door locks. i think cos it has no interior remote release kaya it has fuel cover power lock, still weird for me.

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    WOW!!!

    I've just test driven the 1.8L Focus and it is just unbelievable! The ride quality is at almost at par with mid-sized sedans! Engine power is VERY adequate! The features available and the overall build quality is just above the rest.

    I'm a Mazda fanboy but I'll take the Focus Hatch over the MZ3 R.

    Will post a more comprehensive test drive report later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda

    Will post a more comprehensive test drive report later.
    Don't forget the pics!!!

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    "at bakit ngayon ka lang" (piano line)
    "bakit ngayon kung kelan
    ang aking puso'y
    mayroon nang laman..." :lol:

    I would've thought you'd have driven it before now. :D

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky
    "at bakit ngayon ka lang" (piano line)
    "bakit ngayon kung kelan
    ang aking puso'y
    mayroon nang laman..." :lol:

    I would've thought you'd have driven it before now. :D

    he he, oo nga. i remember in some other threads siguro. Mazdamazda made a comment about Focus Test drive something like 'anemic performance.....' so now he actually likes it. bili na kasi! alrayt. so owners of the 2.0li hatch. can u post your actual real-world mileage. also pls. describe your commute route and your driving habit (heavy on gas a.k.a. leadfoot, or never revving above 2k rpm ....).

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    Hehe. Test drive kami ni MazdaMazda tomorrow!

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    Hi, currently own 1.8 focus for 1.5 months now. Just test drove a focus 2.0 hatch. As I've noticed, the two cars share the same ride quality, but the 2.0L was fast!!! Pulling power was a treat to the senses. 1.8 focus has louder whine engine sound. My dealer tells me though, that fuel consumption isn't good in city drive, but not gass guzzling. Estimated at 7-8 daw, easy on the gas pedal. Mine makes 8.5km/l may hataw pa, city. It does 9.5km/l city light traffic, if I really controll myself.

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