Ford Explorer Problems

[oldblue]

that's why i stopped posting. i thought the objective of the thread was to get a solution to the problem...i was wrong too.

since I apologized already. I maybe in hot water but I have to say this. The objective of this thread is to take us all down with him, Ford Explorer owners, other Ford model owners, Ford Philippines and even Ford in general.
he posted more than 3 threads about this which were subsequently merged.

in the saying, misery loves company, this is a classic case of misery creates company.

forgive me sir *rsc6288, i have to be brutally frank as some members are still being diplomatic about your intentions.

[niky]

Thanks for the link. I'll post it up at Ford Club when I get the chance.

Guys, let's not turn this into a shouting match. Without evidence to the contrary, we cannot accuse rsc6288 of being a front for anything else or of being an anti-Ford propagandist. As he has shown, this is a known defect in the product he bought and that he is majorly disappointed with the handling he has received. He is no different from the owners of defective Toyota D4Ds or poorly-assembled Honda cars at this point.

And, at rsc6288, don't take it personally, but there is a long history of posers and such trying to create negative publicity for certain brands or corporations, or trying to discredit people who create such publicity. Fireblade is a regular member of our boards, and not part of the latter, but we've received quite a few spurious complaints about Ford/Mazdas without concrete (or logical) basis (look up "Everest" and "Jeepney" in the search function, or the case of the destroyed Focus engine that Ford wouldn't fix because the owner (stupidly) hydrolocked it), so he (and some others) are understandably skeptical.

Personally, being well acquainted with the poor brakes on the Expedition and Explorer, I was skeptical myself, until you provided the link for the recall issue regarding the brakes. The other stuff is just the usual, and not really major problems per se (just by-products of poor workmanship on the part of Ford America... the Explorer is 100% CBU), but I can understand how they added to your frustration.

And, like I've said before, there are lots of bad reports regarding service at Ford Global City. That's why he was offering to help, as it would be a service to other Ford owners like ourselves, if your complaints were to reach the right ears. This would (hopefully) help encourage change at the dealership in question, and help other owners avoid these problems.

I sincerely hope you direct a letter at Ford Philippines yourself regarding your problems. They need to know these things.

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In the end, it's an expensive lesson learned... research the vehicle you're buying before buying it. Online forums like this have info regarding even new cars that would be surprising to most (check out the engine support discussion in the Honda Civic thread, or the turbo hose discussion in the Santa Fe thread, or the now infamous D4D woes thread) And follow pre-delivery inspection to the letter. None of the major manufacturers are perfect or free of defect, and if you're not careful, you might be majorly disappointed again.

Good luck with your new vehicle, sir.

[wakin]

Thanks for the link. I'll post it up at Ford Club when I get the chance.

Guys, let's not turn this into a shouting match. Without evidence to the contrary, we cannot accuse rsc6288 of being a front for anything else or of being an anti-Ford propagandist. As he has shown, this is a known defect in the product he bought and that he is majorly disappointed with the handling he has received. He is no different from the owners of defective Toyota D4Ds or poorly-assembled Honda cars at this point.

And, at rsc6288, don't take it personally, but there is a long history of posers and such trying to create negative publicity for certain brands or corporations, or trying to discredit people who create such publicity. Fireblade is a regular member of our boards, and not part of the latter, but we've received quite a few spurious complaints about Ford/Mazdas without concrete (or logical) basis (look up "Everest" and "Jeepney" in the search function, or the case of the destroyed Focus engine that Ford wouldn't fix because the owner (stupidly) hydrolocked it), so he (and some others) are understandably skeptical.

Personally, being well acquainted with the poor brakes on the Expedition and Explorer, I was skeptical myself, until you provided the link for the recall issue regarding the brakes. The other stuff is just the usual, and not really major problems per se (just by-products of poor workmanship on the part of Ford America... the Explorer is 100% CBU), but I can understand how they added to your frustration.

And, like I've said before, there are lots of bad reports regarding service at Ford Global City. That's why he was offering to help, as it would be a service to other Ford owners like ourselves, if your complaints were to reach the right ears. This would (hopefully) help encourage change at the dealership in question, and help other owners avoid these problems.

I sincerely hope you direct a letter at Ford Philippines yourself regarding your problems. They need to know these things.

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In the end, it's an expensive lesson learned... research the vehicle you're buying before buying it. Online forums like this have info regarding even new cars that would be surprising to most (check out the engine support discussion in the Honda Civic thread, or the turbo hose discussion in the Santa Fe thread, or the now infamous D4D woes thread) And follow pre-delivery inspection to the letter. None of the major manufacturers are perfect or free of defect, and if you're not careful, you might be majorly disappointed again.

Good luck with your new vehicle, sir.

very well said.

[oldblue]

Thanks for the link. I'll post it up at Ford Club when I get the chance.

Without evidence to the contrary, we cannot accuse rsc6288 of being a front for anything else or of being an anti-Ford propagandist.

nope sir. I disagree. his thread titles (exploder, not explorer, burn in hell and others) alone suggest otherwise. he does not accept any recommended solutions here.

and he prefers to be mysterious

[fireblade]

Rsc,

Be careful with your temper, medication is expensive. I will not stoop down to your level and I have never said I am taking things personally. I am cool

[fireblade]

totally agree with you katsudon. and fireblade, who's using who? u felt USED? who asked for your help? NO ONE DID. read carefully. whats in this for you. baka taga ford global ka:eviltongu (JJJHOKE!!)

and for the selling part, kaya nga pinaayos muna eh. buti na nga pinaayos eh. ikaw hindi mo ba gagawin un?

Nice for you to just have come up now specially for this thread. I am starting to like you. Am I with Ford Global? Nah, just so happened that I have the balls to resolve things positively without hiding under my mom's skirt.

Enough of you, part of my ignore list now. Ciao

[kinyo]

when i see something like the invoice of global city, i have doubts if the shop is really serious about quality work

they can't even fix printing problems!

[fireblade]

Just realized now, rsc came about just recently and it was all about Ford after reading all his posts.


Mods,

My apologies if I went South. I promise this will be my last post here in this thread

Oh well

[niky]

Nope, you stayed within the bounds. Kudos to you for not taking it personally.

nope sir. I disagree. his thread titles (exploder, not explorer, burn in hell and others) alone suggest otherwise. he does not accept any recommended solutions here.

and he prefers to be mysterious

It's his right. Siya yung nahirapan. Medyo over-reacting nga yung dating, pero that doesn't change the fact that it was an actual problem.

[rsc6288]

Niky, Like I said, I'm not here to pick a fight with anyone......The receipt is there...You clearly see the name of the service advisor as howie2001 pointed out........You can contact the person if you want to find out whether I'm for real or not...........I have all the necessary documents to prove that I am indeed a not so proud owner of an explorer.......Like I stated before, I'm not some poser out to destroy Ford's reputation........I have better things to do with my life.........Put yourself in my shoes....If you get yourself a lemon car and you are overly frustrated by the quality of the car and the service you've been getting and to add insult to injury you just realize that you are going to lose P1,000,000 for the car after just using it for one year plus and with barely 15,000 km on the odometer, wouldn't you want to vent out?????? I just thought people ought to know about it........I thought the purpose of the thread is to share our experiences with our cars.........I didn't know people can be so touchy about this subject.....I just thought people ought to know what kind of company Ford is as a whole and learn from this experience........That's it!!!!!! Don't have anything to gain by doing this.......Fireblade is taking this too far and making this bigger than it is......Like I said in my previous posts, I really do appreciate his concern but he is taking this thing too personally...........I choose not to take any actions regarding this matter and just sell my car off.........I think it is still within my right to do so....and I'm getting slack for it????? Didn't know I'd have to give up those rights to write threads........Like I said, what can they really offer me at this point???? Give me a new master cylinder???? Promise they are going to do a better job next time????? Even if they tell me they are giving me a new Ford car, I'd think twice.........Would all the problems this car has given me who wouldn't?????? ...........Anyway, this is going to be my last post.........I'm getting my white elephant off my hands anyway........Good luck to you all.........and here I thought I can make friends here...Boy!!!! Was I wrong!!!!!!!

[niky]

I know you're not here to fight. Again, good luck with everything.

[bunge]

:grouphugg:

[bunge]

:fartysmile1f:

[Zeus]

Thanks for the link. I'll post it up at Ford Club when I get the chance.

Guys, let's not turn this into a shouting match. Without evidence to the contrary, we cannot accuse rsc6288 of being a front for anything else or of being an anti-Ford propagandist. As he has shown, this is a known defect in the product he bought and that he is majorly disappointed with the handling he has received. He is no different from the owners of defective Toyota D4Ds or poorly-assembled Honda cars at this point.

And, at rsc6288, don't take it personally, but there is a long history of posers and such trying to create negative publicity for certain brands or corporations, or trying to discredit people who create such publicity. Fireblade is a regular member of our boards, and not part of the latter, but we've received quite a few spurious complaints about Ford/Mazdas without concrete (or logical) basis (look up "Everest" and "Jeepney" in the search function, or the case of the destroyed Focus engine that Ford wouldn't fix because the owner (stupidly) hydrolocked it), so he (and some others) are understandably skeptical.

Personally, being well acquainted with the poor brakes on the Expedition and Explorer, I was skeptical myself, until you provided the link for the recall issue regarding the brakes. The other stuff is just the usual, and not really major problems per se (just by-products of poor workmanship on the part of Ford America... the Explorer is 100% CBU), but I can understand how they added to your frustration.

And, like I've said before, there are lots of bad reports regarding service at Ford Global City. That's why he was offering to help, as it would be a service to other Ford owners like ourselves, if your complaints were to reach the right ears. This would (hopefully) help encourage change at the dealership in question, and help other owners avoid these problems.

I sincerely hope you direct a letter at Ford Philippines yourself regarding your problems. They need to know these things.

-----

In the end, it's an expensive lesson learned... research the vehicle you're buying before buying it. Online forums like this have info regarding even new cars that would be surprising to most (check out the engine support discussion in the Honda Civic thread, or the turbo hose discussion in the Santa Fe thread, or the now infamous D4D woes thread) And follow pre-delivery inspection to the letter. None of the major manufacturers are perfect or free of defect, and if you're not careful, you might be majorly disappointed again.

Good luck with your new vehicle, sir.

Good Moderator Niky nabawas na yung init a

[Alpha_One]

Troll alert!

[HyBrideVo]

what does FORD mean again? :dunno:

[mazdamazda]

some observations and my take on this...

1. rsc6288 only posted here with regards to his Ford Explorer problems.

2. rsc6288 & howieyb2001 are using the same IP address. To note, howieyb2001 only posts here in the Ford Explorer Problems thread.

3. With regards to the links to the Mazda6, Ford Windstar & Lincoln LS that have the same problem - the units that showed that kind of problem already have a lot of miles in them (48K miles, 77K miles, etc.). They only exhibited a creaking sound without any degradation to brake performance or brake pedal feel.

4. This is the internet, you can't expect everyone else around here to agree with you. If you can criticize Ford then the same thing can also be done to you.

5. Rattles & a squeaking brake? Come on... my Japan-built CBU SUV has had more defects than that. :lol: Some were fixed by Toyota, some were not.

6. Fireblade offered to mediate so that the Explorer's brake system can be scrutinized again for the new owner (since it was "sold" already) but the offer was flatly refused.

Closing this thread... as said by the others... this is going nowhere.