The All New Ford Eco-Sport

**Vodka** · August 2nd, 2018 11:58 PM

1.0 ecoboost? i don't own one but i've read about so many issues w/ that engine

i'm more interested in the new 3cyl 1.5 NA engine

**StockEngine** · August 2nd, 2018 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by Vodka

1.0 ecoboost? i don't own one but i've read about so many issues w/ that engine

i'm more interested in the new 3cyl 1.5 NA engine

1.5L pls

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**fireproofjat** · August 3rd, 2018 12:26 AM

Originally Posted by Vodka

1.0 ecoboost? i don't own one but i've read about so many issues w/ that engine

i'm more interested in the new 3cyl 1.5 NA engine

Hello, good evening! Would you care to share some of the issues?

**Vodka** · August 3rd, 2018 01:12 AM

Originally Posted by fireproofjat

Hello, good evening! Would you care to share some of the issues?

plenty. just google it. some of the issues may have been fixed already but it's still a turbo w/ direct-injection, more complication than i care for

btw i own an ecosport. the 1.5L non-turbo 4-cylinder is just fine for everyday driving. HOWEVER the facelift uses the new 3-cylinder engine which is fairly new so it definitely will have some teething problems, we just don't know yet how serious they are

but between the 1.0 ecoboost and the 3cyl 1.5 i'd go w/ the 1.5. the 1.5 is already being used in india. so just read the indian tsikot.com for feedback on the new engine

good luck! oh btw stay the hell away from the DCT version

**fireproofjat** · August 3rd, 2018 01:46 AM

Originally Posted by Vodka

plenty. just google it. some of the issues may have been fixed already but it's still a turbo w/ direct-injection, more complication than i care for

btw i own an ecosport. the 1.5L non-turbo 4-cylinder is just fine for everyday driving. HOWEVER the facelift uses the new 3-cylinder engine which is fairly new so it definitely will have some teething problems, we just don't know yet how serious they are

but between the 1.0 ecoboost and the 3cyl 1.5 i'd go w/ the 1.5. the 1.5 is already being used in india. so just read the indian tsikot.com for feedback on the new engine

good luck! oh btw stay the hell away from the DCT version

Thank you! Will do some reading and noted on the DCT version.

**Egan101** · August 3rd, 2018 10:05 AM

The Fox 1.0L 3-cylinder Ecoboost engine has been there for some time already (2012) and it is one of Ford's highly-awarded engines (voted 6 times best sub 1 liter engine from 2012 to 2017). This small displacement turbo engine has been used in multiple platforms (Fiesta, Focus, C-Max).

My 2014 Fiesta Ecoboost has not had any problems with its small 1.0L turbo engine. Also, engine response is much better than the anaemic 1.5L Sigma engine. Honda's L15 is a bit better on the top end than Ford's 1.5L but still no match in performance against Ford's 1.0L turbo.

Ford's 1.5L 4-cylinder is just OK, not much to speak of. The older 1.6L NA of the Fiesta was much better in terms of performance. However, it was really meant for fuel efficiency but I am not sure if it does perform well on that aspect.

To others, I suggest to give a ride a test drive before judging them. If you want a feel of small turbo in action, try the Fiesta Ecoboost and observe its response. Ford would not put Ecoboost engines on most of their higher-tier cars and SUVs (Focus, Escape, Taurus, Edge, Explorer, Expedition, F150, ST models, RS models, etc.) if these Ecoboost engines are not performing properly.

**fireproofjat** · August 3rd, 2018 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by Egan101

The Fox 1.0L 3-cylinder Ecoboost engine has been there for some time already (2012) and it is one of Ford's highly-awarded engines (voted 6 times best sub 1 liter engine from 2012 to 2017). This small displacement turbo engine has been used in multiple platforms (Fiesta, Focus, C-Max).

My 2014 Fiesta Ecoboost has not had any problems with its small 1.0L turbo engine. Also, engine response is much better than the anaemic 1.5L Sigma engine. Honda's L15 is a bit better on the top end than Ford's 1.5L but still no match in performance against Ford's 1.0L turbo.

Ford's 1.5L 4-cylinder is just OK, not much to speak of. The older 1.6L NA of the Fiesta was much better in terms of performance. However, it was really meant for fuel efficiency but I am not sure if it does perform well on that aspect.

To others, I suggest to give a ride a test drive before judging them. If you want a feel of small turbo in action, try the Fiesta Ecoboost and observe its response. Ford would not put Ecoboost engines on most of their higher-tier cars and SUVs (Focus, Escape, Taurus, Edge, Explorer, Expedition, F150, ST models, RS models, etc.) if these Ecoboost engines are not performing properly.

Thank you for your insights! I am awaiting for the SA's advise on the arrival of the refreshed Ecosport and if it has a test drive unit available, I will schedule a spin with it

If I may ask, how's the FC of your Fiesta Ecoboost 1.0L?

**Egan101** · August 4th, 2018 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by fireproofjat

Thank you for your insights! I am awaiting for the SA's advise on the arrival of the refreshed Ecosport and if it has a test drive unit available, I will schedule a spin with it [emoji4] If I may ask, how's the FC of your Fiesta Ecoboost 1.0L?

With my driving style, city driving averages around 8 km/L . On the highway, it can do around 20 km/L if you average 80-90 kmh. At an average of 100-120 kmh, it is around 15 km/L.

If you can keep the small engine from spooling its turbo all the time, you can achieve better fuel efficiency. The engine idles between 950 to 1000 rpm and the turbo spools just below 2000 rpm when properly warmed. When the turbo spools and you keep that pressure on the gas pedal, the engine will rev straight up to redline (past 6000 rpm).

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**fireproofjat** · August 5th, 2018 01:15 AM

Originally Posted by Egan101

With my driving style, city driving averages around 8 km/L . On the highway, it can do around 20 km/L if you average 80-90 kmh. At an average of 100-120 kmh, it is around 15 km/L.

If you can keep the small engine from spooling its turbo all the time, you can achieve better fuel efficiency. The engine idles between 950 to 1000 rpm and the turbo spools just below 2000 rpm when properly warmed. When the turbo spools and you keep that pressure on the gas pedal, the engine will rev straight up to redline (past 6000 rpm).

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Nice! Thank you for the info!

Hopefully the refreshed one [Ecosport] will be arriving soon...

**stealthfighter** · August 12th, 2018 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by fireproofjat

Good morning everyone! When my wife and I went to Ford Cainta to check out the Ecosport on display last Sunday, the girl SA said that the New (Refreshed one) will be released August. When I asked for specs, the only she can confirm is the 1.0 (with Turbo) engine. I can't confirm though because I haven't seen any updates from Topgear PH, Autoindustriya, Autodeal or Carguide. (They usually post something in their respective websites).

Hopefully the Turbo won't have issues, together with its tranny

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