To Mr. Nice Guy

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how come that the two smileys didn't show?

[badsekktor]

I am open minded, just like you I am also stating my point of view. Does this mean, I can't air my side if I don't agree with your comment?

you are free to open your beliefs but quoting other forumers just because their opinion is different than yours means something.

But of course, I also believe I have the right to disagree with your opinion which in fact, I am saying what 'I' think is my belief about Mr. Nice guy. And did I say you're saying a general truth? I don't think I said or posted something to make you feel that way.

well you quoted every forumer who thinks otherwise. and i, including other posters did not quote your remarks ,and we did not perceived your remarks and posts as wrong.

our remarks are simply our perceptions and reactions to the description of a nice guy which you posted here.

so to ask you back, are we wrong to think that your description of a nice guy is really a pathetic person or just a guy who doesnt have any attraction to the opposite ***? 'coz it seems to be like that.

And how can you say I am defensive? Have you seen me or read something I posted that made you think I am affected by your remarks? Or is it just you thinking I got your message the other way around?

well you responded to every posts negating your description of a nice guy. dont you call that defensive? the fact that you replied to the post means you are affected my dear.

I think my age and my gender has nothing to do with how I think about Mr. Nice guy, dont you think? It's completely irrelevant.

your age and gender is very relevant my dear. wisdom, just like quality education takes time.

FYI, I don't mean anything anything when I quote your reply. I guess it is you who are defensive regarding this matter, don't you think?

FYI it is quite improbable that you dont mean anything when you quote somebody. when you qoute somebody, it means that you are affected with the post either in a positive or in a negative manner.

Just relax, this is a forum.

i am relaxed. you seem to be tensed. why the fuss and why trouble quoting negative remarks? are you affected?

we are just having a good time here! like most posters on these thread, we perceive your definition of a nice guy as a pathetic guy. If he ain't pathetic, i guess he's gay.

[moe]

a nice guy isn't necessarily gay. however, the nice guy depicted in the first post was definitely gay. why? no exact reason. he just seems gay to me. this is my opinion. feel free to react.

this forum is great in the sense that it motivates and encourages an exchange of opinions. i hope that doesn't change.

[Flagg]

Since wala na pala TCash dito sa Pitstop, I've taken the liberty of putting proper paragraph stops and not quoting the first post. Mas maganda basahin kasi pag di sya nasa quote. As always, mahilig kasi me sa public service. Here goes:


I've read this one and I thought of sharing this to you guys..

This is a tribute to the nice guys.

The nice guys that finish last, that never become more than friends, that endure hours of whining and bitching about what assholes guys are, while disproving the very point.

This is dedicated to those guys who always provide a shoulder to lean on but restrain themselves to tentative hugs, those guys who hold open doors and give reassuring pats on the back and sit patiently outside the changing room at department stores.

This is in honor of the guys that obligingly reiterate how cute/beautiful/smart/funny/***y their female friends are at the appropriate moment, because they know most girls need that litany of support.

This is in honor of the guys with open minds, with laid-back attitudes, with honest concern. This is in honor of the guys who respect a girl’s every facet, from her privacy to her theology to her clothing style.

This is for the guys who escort their drunk, bewildered female friends back from parties and never take advantage once they’re at her door, for the guys who accompany girls to bars as buffers against the rest of the creepy male population, for the guys who know a girl is fishing for compliments but give them out anyway, for the guys who always play by the rules in a game where the rules favor cheaters, for the guys who are accredited as boyfriend material but somehow don’t end up being boyfriends, for all the nice guys who are overlooked, underestimated, and unappreciated, for all the nice guys who are manipulated, misled, and unjustly abandoned, this is for you.

This is for that time she left 40 urgent messages on your cell phone, and when you called her back, she spent three hours painstakingly dissecting two sentences her boyfriend said to her over dinner. And even though you thought her boyfriend was a chump and a jerk, you assured her that it was all ok and she shouldn’t worry about it.

This is for that time she interrupted the best killing spree you’d ever orchestrated in GTA3 to rant about a rumor that romantically linked her and the guy she thinks is the most repulsive person in the world. And even though you thought it was immature and you had nothing against the guy, you paused the game for two hours and helped her concoct a counter-rumor to spread around the floor.

This is also for that time she didn’t have a date, so after numerous vows that there was nothing “serious” between the two of you, she dragged you to a party where you knew nobody, the beer was awful, and she flirted shamelessly with you, justifying each fit of reckless teasing by announcing to everyone: “oh, but we’re just friends!” And even though you were invited purely as a symbolic warm body for her ego, you went anyways. Because you’re nice like that.

The nice guys don’t often get credit where credit is due. And perhaps more disturbing, the nice guys don’t seem to get laid as often as they should. And I wish I could logically explain this trend, but I can’t. From what I have observed on campus and what I have learned from talking to friends at other schools and in the workplace, the only conclusion I can form is that many girls are just illogical, manipulative bitches.

Many of them claim they just want to date a nice guy, but when presented with such a specimen, they say irrational, confusing things such as “oh, he’s too nice to date” or “he would be a good boyfriend but he’s not for me” or “he already puts up with so much from me, I couldn’t possibly ask him out!” or the most frustrating of all: “no, it would ruin our friendship.” Yet, they continue to lament the lack of datable men in the world, and they expect their too-nice-to-date male friends to sympathize and apologize for the men that are jerks.

Sorry, guys, girls like that are beyond my ability to fathom. I can’t figure out why the connection breaks down between what they say (I want a nice guy!) and what they do (I’m going to sleep with this complete ass now!). But one thing I can do, is say that the nice-guy-finishes-last phenomenon doesn’t last forever. There are definitely many girls who grow out of that train of thought and realize they should be dating the nice guys, not taking them for granted. The tricky part is finding those girls, and even trickier, finding the ones that are single.

So, until those girls are found, I propose a toast to all the nice guys. You know who you are, and I know you’re sick of hearing yourself described as ubiquitously nice. But the truth of the matter is, the world needs your patience in the department store, your holding open of doors, your party escorting services, your propensity to be a sucker for a pretty smile.

For all the crazy, inane, absurd things you tolerate, for all the situations where you are the faceless, nameless hero, my accolades, my acknowledgement, and my gratitude go out to you. You do have credibility in this society, and your well deserved vindication is coming.

Fu-zu Jen, SEAS/WH, 2003

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I must disagree with badsektor. I don't think the abovementioned person is gay. That is a misunderstanding that, IMO, comes out of inexperience.

From what I have observed, 'Mr. Nice Guy' is best described as a loser. The kind of guy who stares at the people who don't line up, who don't pay entrance, who've got reserved tables at the VIP (or where ever they may choose), who've got the prettiest chicks who know how to really party... etc.... in other words, the people for whom rules are always bent... and he wonders what do they have that he doesn't.

It's simple really. A matter of have and have-not. Not of money or looks. Rather of attitude and, of course, social graces. The acknowledgment that fortune favors the bold.

To be honest, I made an experiment on an acquaintance. The quintessential Mr. Nice Guy. In the space of only 1 month that I allowed him to make the rounds under the kind auspices of me and my friends... he became the guy he had always wanted to be. He even managed to get himself laid... without having to pay or go through months of courtship.

Then, I gave him an ultimatum: You can't just take. You wanna hang with us some more, you have to give. And I didn't mean money. Aba... balik Mr. Nice Guy si loko. Hindi nya kaya on his own, kahit tinuruan na sya. Kailangan palagi nakasabit sya sa galing ng iba. Nakakaawa siya, but then again, he's great for conversation... and for posting on tsikot... Ahihihihihi...

HTH

[badsekktor]

isn't that classified as gay boy friend?

nyahahahaha!!!!! baka nga hindi pa nya nadidiscover na gay sya!

actually bro it is just a follow up sa post ni onat_1. im not generalizing nice guys. after all we are all nice guys here! its just the way i read the post. man! that guy is a saint! or not attracted to the opposite *** i guess

I must disagree with badsektor. I don't think the abovementioned person is gay. That is a misunderstanding that, IMO, comes out of inexperience.

it also makes sense i guess.... he might be still inexperienced or pathetic or gay. well nature dictates that men pounces on every opportunity being given to them, unless......

[Flagg]

...it also makes sense i guess.... he might be still inexperienced or pathetic or gay. well nature dictates that men pounces on every opportunity being given to them, unless......

Totally agree. It's just that some men are shy about pouncing. Hihihi...

[chilli]

Very well said Moe and Flagg.

Too bad Mr. Badd I am a girl and its very unfortunate that it is I who actually think that Mr. Nice isn't gay at all... I guess guys should be proud at least to be proud for this tribute. Now, if you chose to be the bad guy, then so be it.

So when you quote someone on which you want to reply or react to their post, isn't allowed here. Now that makes me think, it seems like, you actually misunderstood when I posted that Mr. Nice guy isnt gay at all. It's very hard to see the expression of other people since you don't see them in person. Now if you still think, I mean the other way, its your choice.

But still I stand my POV, being Mr. Nice guy doesn't mean being Gay at all.

I am not tense at all.

FYI, i only quoted two of you. And I reply in a nice way. Like what Moe said, this a forum where you can express yourself, now if i express myself that I don't agree with your POV, not my problem anymore. All I want you to know is that I dont agree with you. Every people have different perception on how people react. Now if you think I did it in purpose, my apology. Ayoko makipag argue with anyone just to prove my point, I just want my message cross.

Seems like you're the one whose tense. Just relax, mahirap kasi mag judge pag di mo nakikita yung tao. And in fact, I quoted you just to let you know I don't agree but that doesn't mean I dont respect your point of view.

[badsekktor]

Very well said Moe and Flagg.

Too bad Mr. Badd I am a girl and its very unfortunate that it is I who actually think that Mr. Nice isn't gay at all... I guess guys should be proud at least to be proud for this tribute. Now, if you chose to be the bad guy, then so be it.

So when you quote someone on which you want to reply or react to their post, isn't allowed here. Now that makes me think, it seems like, you actually misunderstood when I posted that Mr. Nice guy isnt gay at all. It's very hard to see the expression of other people since you don't see them in person. Now if you still think, I mean the other way, its your choice.

But still I stand my POV, being Mr. Nice guy doesn't mean being Gay at all.

I am not tense at all.

FYI, i only quoted two of you. And I reply in a nice way. Like what Moe said, this a forum where you can express yourself, now if i express myself that I don't agree with your POV, not my problem anymore. All I want you to know is that I dont agree with you. Every people have different perception on how people react. Now if you think I did it in purpose, my apology. Ayoko makipag argue with anyone just to prove my point, I just want my message cross.

Seems like you're the one whose tense. Just relax, mahirap kasi mag judge pag di mo nakikita yung tao. And in fact, I quoted you just to let you know I don't agree but that doesn't mean I dont respect your point of view.

i rest my case......

I will just reiterate what others think about the guy depicted in the first post. onat_1 say that the guy might be gay, moe said that the guy described in the first post is gay, flagg said the guy is inexperienced. i think that the guy might be gay, it's just he still doesnt know it. and uls said the girl is a user for taking advantage of the guy too much.

[chilli]

i rest my case......

I will just reiterate what others think about the guy depicted in the first post. onat_1 say that the guy might be gay, moe said that the guy described in the first post is gay, flagg said the guy is inexperienced. i think that the guy might be gay, it's just he still doesnt know it. and uls said the girl is a user for taking advantage of the guy too much.

ganun? hmm maybe its different lang how my group perceived of mr. nice guy. like what i told you, my gfs still prefers mr. nice guy over mr. bad boy ;)

[badsekktor]

ganun? hmm maybe its different lang how my group perceived of mr. nice guy. like what i told you, my gfs still prefers mr. nice guy over mr. bad boy ;)

well mr nice guy is a better option than a bad guy as long as he aint gay

I have this "kababata" from my lola's place, he's the adopted son of my auntie's in laws so kalaro ko sya when i was there for vacation. He grew up to be a hunk! nice built and handsome. kaya lang he likes to wear makeup when he was in college. after college may gf sya. pretty yun girl and well off. they have been together for like 3 years so yun girl got confused and started to ask my tita about his bf.

Tinanong nya kung bakit ganun daw si XXXX dahil hindi man lang daw sya pinagtangkaan. and my auntie cant tell her a thing since alam nila na tinatago na nung guy yun pagiging gay nya dun sa girl. kumbaga eh he's trying to make himself a man again. after nun i dont know kung ano nangyari pero it seems na mas malakas ang dugo ng pagiging gay nya.

i just pity the girl since i believe they already had plans to get married dahil gusto rin nung family ng girl yun guy.

it's really ironic since they though that i am the one who is gay when we were kids! nyahahaha!