Remote bypass oil filtration

**crazy_boy** · January 16th, 2013 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by AC

thanks sir CB..
btw.. ano po disadvantage ng monograde? naku.. dami ko pa naman binili puros monograde.. hehe

sa start up or cooler days, kulang sa protection yung engine kasi malabnaw yung oil.

AC · January 17th, 2013 01:34 AM

ganun? so it is going to harm my engine? hehe naku.. have been using mono grade for sometime na.. and may 3pails pa yata ako.. hehe ubusin ko paba? hehe

**kompressor** · January 17th, 2013 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by crazy_boy

sa start up or cooler days, kulang sa protection yung engine kasi malabnaw yung oil.

Actually baligtad. Pag monograde malapot pa rin ang oil on cold starts kaya mahirap i-circulate.

Pag multigrade, malabnaw ang oil during cold starts then balik sa tamang viscosity pag operating temp na.

ex: 20w40, SAE 20 pag cold, SAE40 pag operating temp na.

Kelangan kasi malabnaw ang oil pag cold coz may tendency na bumaba halos lahat sa sump lalo na pag walang one-way valve ang gamit na oil filter, so kelangan mas madali i-recirculate pag nag start ang engine.

Gumamit din ako ng monograde dati. Ang rule of the thumb ko on monograde is to make sure na walang engine load (idle lang) ang engine for a minute after I start the engine cold.

AC · January 17th, 2013 04:38 PM

so its ok po na ubusin ko monograde oil? warmup lang po muna on cold start? hehe

thanks:D

**crazy_boy** · January 17th, 2013 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by kompressor

Actually baligtad. Pag monograde malapot pa rin ang oil on cold starts kaya mahirap i-circulate.

Pag multigrade, malabnaw ang oil during cold starts then balik sa tamang viscosity pag operating temp na.

ex: 20w40, SAE 20 pag cold, SAE40 pag operating temp na.

Kelangan kasi malabnaw ang oil pag cold coz may tendency na bumaba halos lahat sa sump lalo na pag walang one-way valve ang gamit na oil filter, so kelangan mas madali i-recirculate pag nag start ang engine.

Gumamit din ako ng monograde dati. Ang rule of the thumb ko on monograde is to make sure na walang engine load (idle lang) ang engine for a minute after I start the engine cold.

sorry. i meant malapot pala hehe

Originally Posted by AC

so its ok po na ubusin ko monograde oil? warmup lang po muna on cold start? hehe

thanks:D

its really up to you. but personally, id rather use monograde. diba kasi parati nga nila sinasabi na wear and tear usually sa start up nangyayari,

**number001** · January 17th, 2013 10:47 PM

How many ten thousands kilometers can the BF7534 last before replacement ?

**vanich** · January 18th, 2013 12:58 AM

I want some clarification lang,since walang winter sa pinas or even lower than 15 degrees ang temperature so its safe to use sae40.The 15w is good for -20 degrees cranking.Why are we still need 15w-40 specially its expensive compare to monograde?

**blue_gambit** · January 18th, 2013 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by vanich

I want some clarification lang,since walang winter sa pinas or even lower than 15 degrees ang temperature so its safe to use sae40.The 15w is good for -20 degrees cranking.Why are we still need 15w-40 specially its expensive compare to monograde?

Like Doc recommends TOP1 SDO and Delo 400 are the best bang for the buck...Not simply because they are multi grades but due to they're TBN rating. Maybe if you can find a locally available monograde oil with good TBN rating too you could use that and maybe share it with us...

**gtamp** · January 18th, 2013 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by dvldoc

Anyone running this here? I decided to go ahead and get this for my Elgrand for a few reasons, one being the Elgrands filter is hard to find being 1" 12unf thread and second I have tons of space after removing the stock airbox.

People have been doing these as Do it Yourself jobs for years on diesels Amsoil is now selling them (way overprice) IMO.

I am using this kit with a Fleetguad bypass filter with sythetic media and Fleetguard full flow filter. Which will equal the Amsiol.

About bypass filtration.

• What is add-on bypass oil filtration?
It is a secondary filtration unit with the purpose of super-cleaning engine oil. It has high
contaminant-holding capacity and filters out the smallest particles to include sludge and
soot in special cases. It also reduces engine wear and may increase oil volume.
• Where is bypass filtration used today?
Bypass filtration is standard on all Cummins automotive heavy-duty and larger turbo diesel engines
and on Mack Applications. It has been used as options and/or standard on Caterpillar, Detroit.

Reason for doing this on a diesel.

Removes small particles and soot
Extends engine life
Increases oil capacity
Extends oil change interval
Reduces engine wear

Most going with this system using the higher end filters are going on average of 50000 klm between oil chanes with using engine oil testing as there go by of how well the system is working.

By-pass lube filters are designed to capture and hold small abrasive particles that pass through the full-flow filter. Though microscopic in size, these particles are a major contributor to faster wear of internal engine parts.
Any type of by-pass filter of reasonable quality will effect some reduction in engine wear rates compared to that obtained with full-flow elements alone. The more efficient the by-pass filter is in reducing the total contamination level of the lubricating oil, the more effective it will be in reducing wear rates.

Extensive testing has shown that quality element type by-pass filters in combination with full-flow filters can extend engine wear life two to three times. Further testing with the centrifugal type cleaner has shown an additional reduction in wear of 54%. It is believed that the superior performance of the centrifuge results not only from its ability to remove abrasive particles down to 1 micrometer and below but also to the extraction of carbon soot agglomerates to a far greater degree than is possible with element type filters.

A lot of post on hear always asking about the best oil but if your still using a low quality filter like VIC, and other no name Japan or China made filters then what's the point of getting good oil if it's dirty. Many OEM filters are also junk like Toyota it's what's on the inside not the outside of a filter that matters.

Basic set up but you can also mount it under hood which many do. I know many TD42's have dual filters and Pajeros 4D56 and 4M40's have a combo filter with 2 elements so basically a stacked bypass filter.

The whole oil filter quality thing has not really been covered well on the forum. So I figured it's about time.

meron na po bang gumamit nito?

**Chikselog** · January 18th, 2013 08:47 PM

Gurus, I have a question regarding Baldwin B178 and B199. Same naman sila ng diameter and length but according also to the Baldwin website "Baldwin Filters E-Catalog"

B178 Anti-Drainback Valve
30 PSID By-Pass Valve

B199 Anti-Drainback Valve
8 PSID By-Pass Valve

The one I'm using now on our Vios 1.3 (BT223) is 8 PSID By-Pass Valve

What does the 8 or 30 PSID mean? May masamang effect ba sa engine if I used a lower number (8) than a higher one (30) and vice versa? Planning to use either B178 or B199 on the next oil change of my dad's Civic EK (PH15A engine). I checked the location of the oil filter (real quite hard to see, but I think it has a lot of space to cater to a longer oil filter). Thanks.

Here's the photo