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  1. Join Date
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    Quote Originally Posted by dvldoc View Post
    Anyone running this here? I decided to go ahead and get this for my Elgrand for a few reasons, one being the Elgrands filter is hard to find being 1" 12unf thread and second I have tons of space after removing the stock airbox.

    People have been doing these as Do it Yourself jobs for years on diesels Amsoil is now selling them (way overprice) IMO.





    I am using this kit with a Fleetguad bypass filter with sythetic media and Fleetguard full flow filter. Which will equal the Amsiol.


    About bypass filtration.

    • What is add-on bypass oil filtration?
    It is a secondary filtration unit with the purpose of super-cleaning engine oil. It has high
    contaminant-holding capacity and filters out the smallest particles to include sludge and
    soot in special cases. It also reduces engine wear and may increase oil volume.
    • Where is bypass filtration used today?
    Bypass filtration is standard on all Cummins automotive heavy-duty and larger turbo diesel engines
    and on Mack Applications. It has been used as options and/or standard on Caterpillar, Detroit.

    Reason for doing this on a diesel.

    • Removes small particles and soot
    • Extends engine life
    • Increases oil capacity
    • Extends oil change interval
    • Reduces engine wear
    Most going with this system using the higher end filters are going on average of 50000 klm between oil chanes with using engine oil testing as there go by of how well the system is working.


    By-pass lube filters are designed to capture and hold small abrasive particles that pass through the full-flow filter. Though microscopic in size, these particles are a major contributor to faster wear of internal engine parts.
    Any type of by-pass filter of reasonable quality will effect some reduction in engine wear rates compared to that obtained with full-flow elements alone. The more efficient the by-pass filter is in reducing the total contamination level of the lubricating oil, the more effective it will be in reducing wear rates.

    Extensive testing has shown that quality element type by-pass filters in combination with full-flow filters can extend engine wear life two to three times. Further testing with the centrifugal type cleaner has shown an additional reduction in wear of 54%. It is believed that the superior performance of the centrifuge results not only from its ability to remove abrasive particles down to 1 micrometer and below but also to the extraction of carbon soot agglomerates to a far greater degree than is possible with element type filters.

    A lot of post on hear always asking about the best oil but if your still using a low quality filter like VIC, and other no name Japan or China made filters then what's the point of getting good oil if it's dirty. Many OEM filters are also junk like Toyota it's what's on the inside not the outside of a filter that matters.

    Basic set up but you can also mount it under hood which many do. I know many TD42's have dual filters and Pajeros 4D56 and 4M40's have a combo filter with 2 elements so basically a stacked bypass filter.



    The whole oil filter quality thing has not really been covered well on the forum. So I figured it's about time.
    meron na po bang gumamit nito?

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    Gurus, I have a question regarding Baldwin B178 and B199. Same naman sila ng diameter and length but according also to the Baldwin website "Baldwin Filters E-Catalog"

    B178 Anti-Drainback Valve
    30 PSID By-Pass Valve

    B199 Anti-Drainback Valve
    8 PSID By-Pass Valve

    The one I'm using now on our Vios 1.3 (BT223) is 8 PSID By-Pass Valve

    What does the 8 or 30 PSID mean? May masamang effect ba sa engine if I used a lower number (8) than a higher one (30) and vice versa? Planning to use either B178 or B199 on the next oil change of my dad's Civic EK (PH15A engine). I checked the location of the oil filter (real quite hard to see, but I think it has a lot of space to cater to a longer oil filter). Thanks.

    Here's the photo
    Last edited by Chikselog; January 18th, 2013 at 08:51 PM.

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    chiks, for Honda, ang alam ko B1402 dapat. thats longer than stock na yata.

    as for the Yota, stick if BT223 na. perfect size na siya e. and marami naman yang stock

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    #4
    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_boy View Post
    chiks, for Honda, ang alam ko B1402 dapat. thats longer than stock na yata.

    as for the Yota, stick if BT223 na. perfect size na siya e. and marami naman yang stock
    Gusto ko sana ng longer version ng filter hehe mas matagal ba ng konti ang OCI kapag longer filter? Particularly for the Civic sana kasi luma na yun kaya gusto ko lagyan ng Baldwin.

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    I think B166 will fit the civic.Will wait kay doc and bayen anong pwede for civic na mas malaking filter.

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    #6
    Quote Originally Posted by vanich View Post
    I think B166 will fit the civic.Will wait kay doc and bayen anong pwede for civic na mas malaking filter.
    for the PH15 or PH16 engine I think Masyado malaki outer diameter ng B166. Kung B16, D16 engine yun, kasya pa dun.
    Last edited by bayen; January 19th, 2013 at 02:45 AM.

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    #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Chikselog View Post
    Gusto ko sana ng longer version ng filter hehe mas matagal ba ng konti ang OCI kapag longer filter? Particularly for the Civic sana kasi luma na yun kaya gusto ko lagyan ng Baldwin.
    Ayun perfect may picture.

    Given than filter positioning, you can use any m20X1.5 thread oil filter as long as the outer diameter does not exceed 3.05 inches.
    sa length, looking at the picture, you can easily fit a 4 to 5 inches filter here.

    Given that here are your choices:

    B227
    LF3691
    LF3624
    LF3960
    LF3649
    LF716
    B199
    B179
    PH2808 - luberfiner
    PH2903 - luberfiner
    LF3403

    B161-S - GUSTO ko neto hirap maghanap. hehehe perfect max size to for my GE.
    B1402
    B1431
    B1400

    madami pang ibang pwede pero as of now those are the ones on top of my head. B179 lang meron ako now. the rest of the ones listed above i'll have them soon...

    Re: PSID, usually for after market filters mas mataas yung PSID setting nya over stock ones. eto lang yung setting na the filter will go on bypass once barado na sya. its very unlikely though na mababara mo yung baldwin or fleetguard or any fleet service filter as it has 4 times dirt holding capacity than oem but if you do, then at certain PSID depende dun sa setting nung nabili mo it will go on bypass... to prevent the engine from oil starvation.

    1 a 14, 20 or even 30 PSID setting is not so uncommon and perfectly safe to use with our engines.

    For the VIOS idol pwede ka mag B178. see picture below:



    Malayo pa yung filter na yan to the ground so kahit lowered ka pa hindi sasayad yung filter sa ground.

    other pictures of filter mountings on different rides are posted here:
    https://www.facebook.com/FiltersDepot

    browse na lang kayo mga kapatid. kung may gusto kayo add, go lang. am documenting pictures of filter mounting for easier reference kapag may mga nagtatanong
    Last edited by bayen; January 19th, 2013 at 03:05 AM.

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