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    #4461
    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    Can someone please clarify? As I understand, TBN or Total Base Number refers to the alkalinity of the oil to counter the acidity of poor quality fuel (like high sulfur content of diesels) during the process of combustion & oxidation. As an example is sulfur being converted to sulfuric acid, which contributes to corrosion in the engine. The higher the TBN of the oil, the longer it's effectiveness in neutralizing the acidity during it's lifetime before it reaches 0. As an example, in the course of a 10,000 km life of an oil before an oil change, an oil with a TBN of 12 takes longer to get to 0 than an oil with a TBN of 10 or lower. So, an oil with a higher TBN give you a little more breathing room when doing extended oil change intervals.
    It depends on the additive package. Some fs oils have 7tbn that can last 10000mi or 15000km. Normally api-sn only requires 7-8tbn to meet api-sn requirements. For exam mag1 5w30 fmx has tbn7.9

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    #4462
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    Where did you get this info? Completely erroneous.

    For example amsoil oils have 12.6TBN across its signature range form 0w20-5w50

    Shell helix ultra 5w40 and mobil1 0w40 has more or less 12TBN.


    You may have asked where i got the info only, instead of adding "completely erroneous". Now may i ask where you got the amsoil and shell info to support your post?
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    Last edited by leinahtan; June 29th, 2016 at 06:24 PM.

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    #4463
    The tbn figures above are for diesels. Tbn for api-sn are of course different and much lower. When you stated tbn figures earlier, i thought you meant them as a "set" of numbers.

    Anyways amsoil and shell have product data sheets that are available

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    #4464
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    The tbn figures above are for diesels. Tbn for api-sn are of course different and much lower. When you stated tbn figures earlier, i thought you meant them as a "set" of numbers.

    Anyways amsoil and shell have product data sheets that are available
    So where are the alleged amsoil/shell infos to validate your figures?

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    #4465
    I guess you never heard of amsoil


    Here is the pds of the signature series


    http://www.amsoil.com/lit/databulletins/g2880.pdf

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    #4466
    Quote Originally Posted by leinahtan View Post
    So where are the alleged amsoil/shell infos to validate your figures?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    I guess you never heard of amsoil


    Here is the pds of the signature series


    http://www.amsoil.com/lit/databulletins/g2880.pdf
    Relax guys, miscomm lang yan. I think stockengine really thought diesel engine oil na specs yung nakalagay? He already mentioned his mistake naman.

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    #4467
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Relax guys, miscomm lang yan. I think stockengine really thought diesel engine oil na specs yung nakalagay? He already mentioned his mistake naman.
    I agree. Peace brad

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    #4468
    How well does he know that the figures I posted was "completely erroneous". After we learned something, this "I thought" issue comes around. We are here to help each other out to the best we can, not to mislead anybody. But do not rebut if you are unsure of your facts.

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    #4469
    Manufacturers test their oils for compatibility with other oils.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leinahtan View Post
    How well does he know that the figures I posted was "completely erroneous". After we learned something, this "I thought" issue comes around. We are here to help each other out to the best we can, not to mislead anybody. But do not rebut if you are unsure of your facts.

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    Up for this one.
    I completely agree with you bro....
    completely.
    It is better to be understanding than to be correct.

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    #4471
    Thanks a lot to all those who replied to my query and i apologize for any miscom that i may have triggered. Hoping everything will get well soon.

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    #4472
    Quote Originally Posted by macsd View Post
    Thanks a lot to all those who replied to my query and i apologize for any miscom that i may have triggered. Hoping everything will get well soon.
    That's okay. Normal lang sa forums.

    Puwede mo nga yan paghaluin. Wala adverse effect yan.

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    #4473
    Nasa monty ko ngaun 5.5 liters Delo Sport 5W-30 FS at 1 liter Shell Helix Ultra with pureplus 5W-30. Dahin natapon langis na Delo habang nag change oil ako. [emoji24] dahil wala mahanap na Delo Sports, Shell pinang top-up ko.


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    #4474
    Medyo luma na pero good to know.

    https://www.amsoil.com/lit/g3115.pdf

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    #4475
    Quote Originally Posted by Geronimo Valino View Post
    Nasa monty ko ngaun 5.5 liters Delo Sport 5W-30 FS at 1 liter Shell Helix Ultra with pureplus 5W-30. Dahin natapon langis na Delo habang nag change oil ako. [emoji24] dahil wala mahanap na Delo Sports, Shell pinang top-up ko.


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    Nothing wrong naman. Both are the top of the line oils from delo&shell. Outside casa for the new monty?

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    #4476
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    Nothing wrong naman. Both are the top of the line oils from delo&shell. Outside casa for the new monty?
    Yung medyo problematic siguro if you mix different viscosities

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    #4477
    RE: Zic

    Sa mga Zic users, saan kayo bumibili. I've seen Mr. Liempo in OLX and talked to one from Manila. But I am from Laguna and bihira lang talaga ako lumuwas. Meron bang seller sa bandang south like Alabang?

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    #4478
    ^ sa motortiwn sa atc compound may nagbebenta. wings west iyong ng shop name kung hindi ako nagakakamali
    Last edited by baludoy; June 30th, 2016 at 03:13 PM.

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    #4479
    Quote Originally Posted by fireice2.0 View Post
    Yung medyo problematic siguro if you mix different viscosities

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    You can mix 0w20 and 5w40, there are several blenders in bobistheoilguy forums... biggest oil forums. There are also big russian oil forums.

    Reps from castrol and pennzoil also say its ok...

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    #4480
    That's cool!

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Mineral , semi synthetic or fully synthetic?