Mineral , semi synthetic or fully synthetic?

[amoyligo]

Masyado mabilis yung 1-2 years shelf life ng engine oil.

Kahit 5 years nakatengga yan pwede nyo gamitin.

[kisshmet]

if I mqy ask lang po, how long is the shelf life ng open but uncontaminated fully synthetic motor oils??

As long as the container remains sealed good and theres no expiry date stamped into it the oil is good to be used

To put an expiry when its explicitly stated theres none is ludicrous

Marami talagang misconception sa car maintenance

[kisshmet]

Nag backread ako simula page 1, nasa page 44 palang ako pero 200+ times ko na atang nabasa yung word na delo haha. Napatingin tuloy ako sa website ng caltex at nakita ko Havoline pala yung carry nilang engine oil na pang gasoline. Looks promising kaso mukhang mahal.

Havoline Engine Oil - Fully Synthetic, Blend & Formula - Caltex Philippines

If youre the type of a consumer that is brand concious then youll to take the path that most people took

[dr. d]

As long as the container remains sealed good and theres no expiry date stamped into it the oil is good to be used

what if the expiry date was intentionally erased? is there a way to determine if...?

[kisshmet]

Based upon my research. Mas magiging matipid daw talaga ang isang kotse kapag mas manipis na langis ang ginamit dahil mas madaling makakagalaw yung engine internals pero mas maganda ang protection ng 30 at 40 grade oil during normal operating temp compared sa 20 dahil bumababa din ang viscosity index habang numinipis ang langis. Pero kung nakadesign naman ang engine clearances mo sa 20 grade oil i think walang magiging problem.
A 0w-30 and 5w-30 will have the same viscosity during normal operating temperature.

50 will never be the same as a 40 or a 30 at any driving condition (engine on or off)

Kung hindi pa naandar makina madali ng kumalat ang thin oil sa bakal e di lalo na pag naitan yan ng umaandar na makina

If what your saying is 50 would turn 40 once heated up then 30 would turn 20 and 20 to 10 viscosity when heated up. Hence 50 will never be equal to 40 or 30

[kisshmet]

what if the expiry date was intentionally erased? is there a way to determine if...?

That you can determine with different manufacturers

If its industry standard to stamp shelf life into oil containers then most oil containers will carry such mark if not then there will be none

Shelf life could be a pigment of over concious consumers imagination

As long as the container is sealed then its good

Heck some used oil are even recycled, all casas earn from the used oil every car owners throw away in their service bay. after filtering out the contaminants it goes back to the store sheves for all consumers to buy

[bryan19]

Which casa ito, sir? Honda's motor oils and fluids are manufactured by Idemitsu. If you check the containers, you will see that such fluids are manufactured by Idemitsu for Honda.

Is this true? That honda repacking idemitsu which is meron din sa unioil. I have check their oils and found out mas cheap siya kesa buying on honda casa mismo. But upon computing and research un fully synthetic ng idemitsu which is 5w-30 is a semi synthetic lang ng honda and honda fully synthetic is 0w-20 or 5w-40

[StockEngine]

Is this true? That honda repacking idemitsu which is meron din sa unioil. I have check their oils and found out mas cheap siya kesa buying on honda casa mismo. But upon computing and research un fully synthetic ng idemitsu which is 5w-30 is a semi synthetic lang ng honda and honda fully synthetic is 0w-20 or 5w-40

Most oils have fs, semi, and mineral oils. 5w30 fs is fs. Unless otherwise mentioned that its not.

[Troy Inovero]

Is this true? That honda repacking idemitsu which is meron din sa unioil. I have check their oils and found out mas cheap siya kesa buying on honda casa mismo. But upon computing and research un fully synthetic ng idemitsu which is 5w-30 is a semi synthetic lang ng honda and honda fully synthetic is 0w-20 or 5w-40

Yes honda oil is a repacked idemitsu. And unioil ang official distributor ng idemitsu sa pinas. And you are correct na mas cheap sya kesa sa casa.
Idemitsu also has 0w-20 and 5w-40 fully synthetic. You can check their site here. Idemitsu Lube (S) Pte Ltd - We Care About Your Engine And Our World.

And about sa sinasabi mong semi synthetic lang ng honda ang FS ng idemitsu na 5w-30, they are not exactly the same oil.

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Is this true? That honda repacking idemitsu which is meron din sa unioil. I have check their oils and found out mas cheap siya kesa buying on honda casa mismo. But upon computing and research un fully synthetic ng idemitsu which is 5w-30 is a semi synthetic lang ng honda and honda fully synthetic is 0w-20 or 5w-40

Yes honda oil is a repacked idemitsu. And unioil ang official distributor ng idemitsu sa pinas. And you are correct na mas cheap sya kesa sa casa.
Idemitsu also has 0w-20 and 5w-40 fully synthetic. You can check their site here. http://www.idemitsu-ils.com.sg/products/prodlist.aspx?CateID=5

And about sa sinasabi mong semi synthetic lang ng honda ang FS ng idemitsu na 5w-30, they are not exactly the same oil.

[Troy Inovero]

50 will never be the same as a 40 or a 30 at any driving condition (engine on or off)

Kung hindi pa naandar makina madali ng kumalat ang thin oil sa bakal e di lalo na pag naitan yan ng umaandar na makina

If what your saying is 50 would turn 40 once heated up then 30 would turn 20 and 20 to 10 viscosity when heated up. Hence 50 will never be equal to 40 or 30

Sir wala akong sinabing pare parehas lang ang 50,40 at 30. At wala din akong sinabi na ang 50 ay magiging 40 kapag nainitan na.
What i'm saying is a thinner oil has a lower viscosity than a thicker oil at operating temperature.

[bryan19]

Yes honda oil is a repacked idemitsu. And unioil ang official distributor ng idemitsu sa pinas. And you are correct na mas cheap sya kesa sa casa.
Idemitsu also has 0w-20 and 5w-40 fully synthetic. You can check their site here. Idemitsu Lube (S) Pte Ltd - We Care About Your Engine And Our World.

And about sa sinasabi mong semi synthetic lang ng honda ang FS ng idemitsu na 5w-30, they are not exactly the same oil.

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Most oils have fs, semi, and mineral oils. 5w30 fs is fs. Unless otherwise mentioned that its not.

Any proof that honda repacked idemitsu. Haha Anyway I double check idemitsu on the web yes found out they have semi synthetic with 5w30 but its coming soon in the site lol but some are already available in the market even in there site is coming soon. Hmm..

Anyway any reviews on this oil? Especially the eco one. There fully synthetic in unioil is the price of semi synthetic of honda hmm

[Troy Inovero]

Any proof that honda repacked idemitsu. Haha Anyway I double check idemitsu on the web yes found out they have semi synthetic with 5w30 but its coming soon in the site lol but some are already available in the market even in there site is coming soon. Hmm..

Anyway any reviews on this oil? Especially the eco one. There fully synthetic in unioil is the price of semi synthetic of honda hmm

Nakalagay sa mismong lalagyan na made by idemitsu. Upload ako ng pic bukas or if you want pwede ko isend sa email mo.
Okay yung eco nila, mas tahimik engine kapag naka idle saka may konting improvement din sa fc. Try mo din sir malamang magugustuhan mo din hehe. 1,720 price nya sa unioil.

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Any proof that honda repacked idemitsu. Haha Anyway I double check idemitsu on the web yes found out they have semi synthetic with 5w30 but its coming soon in the site lol but some are already available in the market even in there site is coming soon. Hmm..

Anyway any reviews on this oil? Especially the eco one. There fully synthetic in unioil is the price of semi synthetic of honda hmm

Nakalagay sa mismong lalagyan na made by idemitsu. Upload ako ng pic bukas or if you want pwede ko isend sa email mo.
Okay yung eco nila, mas tahimik engine kapag naka idle saka may konting improvement din sa fc. Try mo din sir malamang magugustuhan mo din hehe. 1,720 price nya sa unioil.

[bryan19]

Nakalagay sa mismong lalagyan na made by idemitsu. Upload ako ng pic bukas or if you want pwede ko isend sa email mo.
Okay yung eco nila, mas tahimik engine kapag naka idle saka may konting improvement din sa fc. Try mo din sir malamang magugustuhan mo din hehe. 1,720 price nya sa unioil.

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Nakalagay sa mismong lalagyan na made by idemitsu. Upload ako ng pic bukas or if you want pwede ko isend sa email mo.
Okay yung eco nila, mas tahimik engine kapag naka idle saka may konting improvement din sa fc. Try mo din sir malamang magugustuhan mo din hehe. 1,720 price nya sa unioil.

Kahit dito na lang hehe thanks. 4liters ba yan 1,720? Edi 430 per liter hmm tapos bili na lang ako sa honda ng filter at washer 345 plus labor ng gagawa makakatipid nga ng malaki kung ganun kaso mawawalan lang ng checking un sasakyan.. di ba lalo tatagas un oil sa engine ko kasi may mga problem sa mga gasket ko? Currently I am using semi synthetic ng honda may mga leak dahil sa gasket problem pero di naman ganun kadame un nababawas actually since nag pa change oil ako ng Dec. Up to now di ako nag lagay ng oil para dagdagan kasi sa dip stick nasa normal level pa din eh. Pag fully kaya dun na kaya lalakas un leak at need na mag lagay?

[StockEngine]

Kahit dito na lang hehe thanks. 4liters ba yan 1,720? Edi 430 per liter hmm tapos bili na lang ako sa honda ng filter at washer 345 plus labor ng gagawa makakatipid nga ng malaki kung ganun kaso mawawalan lang ng checking un sasakyan.. di ba lalo tatagas un oil sa engine ko kasi may mga problem sa mga gasket ko? Currently I am using semi synthetic ng honda may mga leak dahil sa gasket problem pero di naman ganun kadame un nababawas actually since nag pa change oil ako ng Dec. Up to now di ako nag lagay ng oil para dagdagan kasi sa dip stick nasa normal level pa din eh. Pag fully kaya dun na kaya lalakas un leak at need na mag lagay?

About the leak, Visually meron oil? Or nag lower lng oil level without any visible oil?

[Troy Inovero]

Nahanap ko lang, pinagcinompare yung old FS na 5w-40 sa new 0w-20.

The Layman Auto: What's with 0W-20 synthentic lubricant and will it last?

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Nahanap ko lang, pinagcinompare yung old FS na 5w-40 sa new 0w-20.

http://laymanauto.blogspot.com/2014/06/whats-with-0w-20-synthentic-lubricant.html

[luffin]

mga sir any feedback po sa shell helix hx5? try ko po gamitin sa next change oil ko. castrol magnatec po gamit ko, mejo namamahalan ako hehe. mga magkano ung 4 liters nito? 2000 civic. thanks

[amoyligo]

Check nyo kung rated ILSAC GF-5 na stock idemitsu. Kasi kung API SM/CF pa yan eh ang daya.

[Egan101]

mga sir any feedback po sa shell helix hx5? try ko po gamitin sa next change oil ko. castrol magnatec po gamit ko, mejo namamahalan ako hehe. mga magkano ung 4 liters nito? 2000 civic. thanks

For a small price difference, go with the HX7 5w40 semi-synthetic. I used it before on my 2001 Accord. Just make sure to change oil every 5k km though I found it to be still ok after 6k+ km. Medyo may kamahalan yung HX5 or HX7 kung bibilhin sa Shell stations though if you can find them cheap somewhere, go for it. Kung gagastos ka ng 400 per liter ng HX5 or HX7, I would suggest you use Idemitsu synthetic 5w30/5w40 or Total Quartz Gold 5w40 synthetic instead kasi synthetic na tapos nasa less than 450 per liter plus up to 10k yung change oil.

[Egan101]

Check nyo kung rated ILSAC GF-5 na stock idemitsu. Kasi kung API SM/CF pa yan eh ang daya.

Yung locally available Idemitsu synthetic oils ay yung Extreme Eco 5w30 at Extreme Touring 5w40. Both oils are rated API SM/CF. Nasa mga 1600-1800 per gallon yung price nito, depende sa dealer (mostly UniOil gas stations).

Total has its Quartz Gold 5w40 synthetic oil, API SN. P1680 per gallon yung kuha namin. Naubusan ng Idemitsu oil yung malapit na UniOil station so napilitan gumamit ng iba for the Jazz pero oks naman yung Total Quartz Gold so far.

Mas mura pa ata yung bentahan ng Zic synthetic oils. Mga 300 per liter kuha ng kaibigan ko kasi isang carton bilihan nya for his Montero Sport (7L per oil change).

[luffin]

ok naman po ung hx7 sa accord niyo? my pagbabago po ba sa hatak, fc, etc.?.. di pa ko nakakagamit ng fully synthetic, sabi ng mekanik pede daw magleak kasi masyado manipis tapos luma na ung mga seals ng engine.