Mineral , semi synthetic or fully synthetic?

[igiwtf]

ang Delo 400 ba semi synthetic or mineral oil ?

[Retz]

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Sir, afaik nasa semi synthetic category na yan rated CI-4+

[johnjoseph]

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Sir, afaik nasa semi synthetic category na yan rated CI-4+

Yun Delo 400 LE distributed sa USA and Europe ang synthetic, cmiiw, the multigrade Delo 400 distributed locally ay mineral pa din, medyo bumaba pa konti ang zinc at sulfated ash to conform with API CI-4+ rating for new emission standards of vehicles with EGR.

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[chard23]

Hello guys,

Marecommend niyo ba na gumamit ng fully synth sa 10 y/o 2nzfe? ung last 3 OCI ko puro DGU + BT223 gamit ko eh.

[radz15]

Guys may nakapag try na ba sa inyo ng s-oil?

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[igiwtf]

zic rv 10w30 and zic up 15w40 may nakagamit na po ba sa inyo?

[johnjoseph]

Hello guys,
Marecommend niyo ba na gumamit ng fully synth sa 10 y/o 2nzfe? ung last 3 OCI ko puro DGU + BT223 gamit ko eh.

Lots of factors to consider para recommend synthetic oil for a certain engine. IMO, nasa car owner ang decision kung gusto use synthetic oil, kung makakasira, I think, hindi, as long as tama ang oil level, good iyan. Try mo use one with SAE 5W40, same viscosity ng DGU at operating temperature, just observe and take note of changes sa performance ng engine mo compared as when DGU is in use. Make it a habit to check engine bay regularly, hugot dipstick, etc!

[jmpet626]

ano ba current oci mo sir and how far do you want to extend your oci using euro 4 diesel?

Sa 09 Sta Fe before Semi Synth HGMO with OEM filter kada 5k ang palit. Now gamit ko Motul TRD Fully Synth extend ko to 10k pero palit pa din filter every 5k and top up lang if ever mag bawas ng oil level.

Currently running na for 4000kms yung Motul TRD and di pa ganun ka dark yung oil.

[chard23]

Lots of factors to consider para recommend synthetic oil for a certain engine. IMO, nasa car owner ang decision kung gusto use synthetic oil, kung makakasira, I think, hindi, as long as tama ang oil level, good iyan. Try mo use one with SAE 5W40, same viscosity ng DGU at operating temperature, just observe and take note of changes sa performance ng engine mo compared as when DGU is in use. Make it a habit to check engine bay regularly, hugot dipstick, etc!

Thank you, Johnjoseph. Kailangan ko ba mag engine flush kapag mag papalit ako ng engine oil from DGU to whatever fully synth na mapili ko?

[johnjoseph]

Thank you, Johnjoseph. Kailangan ko ba mag engine flush kapag mag papalit ako ng engine oil from DGU to whatever fully synth na mapili ko?

If I will change oil to synthetic type, I'll just drain the old oil, let it drip for an hour or two, replace the filter, install the drain plug, pour the chosen synthetic oil, start the engine for five minutes, check for leaks, turn off engine, check oil level via dipstick, top up if necessary and that's it! No need to flush or mumog as some do, the new oil will flush what it can, suspend it to be trapped by the filter, next oci, kung ayos sa engine mo ang synthetic oil, pwede mo na extend ang service life.

[Flipo]

If I will change oil to synthetic type, I'll just drain the old oil, let it drip for an hour or two, replace the filter, install the drain plug, pour the chosen synthetic oil, start the engine for five minutes, check for leaks, turn off engine, check oil level via dipstick, top up if necessary and that's it! No need to flush or mumog as some do, the new oil will flush what it can, suspend it to be trapped by the filter, next oci, kung ayos sa engine mo ang synthetic oil, pwede mo na extend ang service life.

BTW, where or how do you dispose your old oil?

[Retz]

Currently using Mobil Delvac MX and I will be switching to Top 1 SDO in my next oil change coupled with of course Baldwin oil filter. Meron na ba gumagamit nitong combo upto 10k or 1yr?

[johnjoseph]

BTW, where or how do you dispose your old oil?

Just bring your used oil sa gas stations na meron change oil service, meron sila storage drums for it, sell din nila pag nakapuno.

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[Flipo]

Just bring your used oil sa gas stations na meron change oil service, meron sila storage drums for it, sell din nila pag nakapuno.

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Ok thank's

[Retz]

re-post lang from innova thread..... newer engine = synthetic and older engine = mineral? ano ba explanation dito mga oil gurus?

[johnjoseph]

Di pa siguro well introduced at limited supply ang synthetic engine oil noon 1990s, puro mineral oils pa lang gamit dito sa Pilipinas, maybe!

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[vvti2.0]

It is more on viscosity, kapag newer engine, tight pa ang toleranceng engine at ok pa ang seal ng mga gaskets so ok lang ang low viscosity oil.

Kapag maluwang na ang tolerance ng engine at nag shrink na rin or nagdegrade ang mga gaskets, high viscosity oil na dapat ang gamitin.

[Retz]

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Ano ba viscosity ng mga helix na yan? Kung viscosity ang dahilan diba mga FS oil meron naman na 40 rin ang viscosity grade.


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[innova2013]

+1 kay vvti2.0

dagdagan ko lang. mas mataas kasi VI ng FS oils compared sa mineral oils. ibig sabihin, mas linear at efficient ang pagpapalit ng viscosity ng FS oils kesa sa mineral oils. kumbaga, mas tugma yung viscosity to temperature ratio ng FS kesa sa mineral. ang mineral kasi, konting init lang, mabigat na siya agad. kaya dun papasok yung subject na pinipilit na magka wear yung makina kasi ang bigat ng oil mo. high viscosity oils sa small gaps ng new engine, parang hindi ko maimagine during high rev. (kapag malaki ka, hindi ba mahirap sumiksik sa makipot na daan? paki tama na lang kung mali pagkakaintindi ko)

tska may gasket friendly additive ang mga FS oils na wala ang karamihan ng mineral oils. ito yung nag co-condition ng gaskets/seals para mas tumagal pa ang mga buhay nito, mas matagal na lumutong kaya recommended talaga ang FS oils sa mga bagong makina.

tska kasalanan din minsan ng user yung pagka leak ng isang makina kahit na low mileage pa. papalit palit kasi ng oil brand, hindi mag stick sa iisang brand. iba iba kasi ang gamit na additives ng mga oil companies kaya hindi natin alam kung mag bebehave ba sila positively o negatively.

[igiwtf]

pano ba iedit yung first post ko? i hope this will help. please refer to your owners manual. (ACEA RATING)


A1/B1 Stable, stay-in-grade oil intended for use at extended drain intervals in gasoline engines and car & light van diesel engines specifically designed to be capable of using low friction low viscosity oils with a high temperature / high shear rate viscosity of 2.6 mPa*s for xW/20 and 2.9 to 3.5 mPa.s for all other viscosity grades. These oils are unsuitable for use in some engines. Consult owner manual or handbook if in doubt.

A3/B3 Stable, stay-in-grade oil intended for use in high performance gasoline engines and car & light van diesel engines and/or for extended drain intervals where specified by the engine manufacturer, and/or for year-round use of low viscosity oils, and/or for severe operating conditions as defined by the engine manufacturer.

A3/B4 Stable, stay-in-grade oil intended for use in high performance gasoline and direct injection diesel engines, but also suitable for applications described under A3/B3.

A5/B5 Stable, stay-in-grade oil intended for use at extended drain intervals in high performance gasoline engines and car & light van diesel engines designed to be capable of using low friction low viscosity oils with a High temperature / High shear rate (HTHS) viscosity of 2.9 to 3.5 mPa.s. These oils are unsuitable for use in some engines. Consult owner manual or handbook if in doubt.


C1 Stable, stay-in-grade oil intended for use as catalyst compatible oil in vehicles with DPF and TWC in high performance car and light van diesel and gasoline engines requiring low friction, low viscosity, low SAPS oils with a minimum HTHS viscosity of 2.9 mPa.s. These oils will increase the DPF and TWC life and maintain the vehicles fuel economy. Warning: these oils have the lowest SAPS limits and are unsuitable for use in some engines. Consult owner manual or handbook if in doubt.

C2 Stable, stay-in-grade oil intended for use as catalyst compatible oil in vehicles with DPF and TWC in high performance car and light van diesel and gasoline engines designed to be capable of using low friction, low viscosity oils with a minimum HTHS viscosity of 2.9mPa.s. These oils will increase the DPF and TWC life and maintain the vehicles fuel economy. Warning: these oils are unsuitable for use in some engines. Consult owner manual or handbook if in doubt.

C3 Stable, stay-in-grade oil intended for use as catalyst compatible oil in vehicles with DPF and TWC in high performance car and light van diesel and gasoline engines, with a minimum HTHS viscosity of 3.5mPa.s. These oils will increase the DPF and TWC life. Warning: these oils are unsuitable for use in some engines. Consult owner manual or handbook if in doubt.

C4 Stable, stay-in-grade oil intended for use as catalyst compatible oil in vehicles with DPF and TWC in high performance car and light van diesel and gasoline engines requiring low SAPS oil with a minimum HTHS viscosity of 3.5mPa.s. These oils will increase the DPF and TWC life. Warning: these oils are unsuitable for use in some engines. Consult owner manual or handbook if in doubt.


E4 Stable, stay-in-grade oil providing excellent control of piston cleanliness, wear, soot handling and lubricant stability. It is recommended for highly rated diesel engines meeting Euro I, Euro II, Euro III, Euro IV and Euro V emission requirements and running under very severe conditions, e.g. significantly extended oil drain intervals according to the manufacturer's recommendations. It is suitable for engines without particulate filters, and for some EGR engines and some engines fitted with SCR NOx reduction systems. However, recommendations may differ between engine manufacturers so Driver Manuals and/or Dealers shall be consulted if in doubt.

E6 Stable, stay-in-grade oil providing excellent control of piston cleanliness, wear, soot handling and lubricant stability. It is recommended for highly rated diesel engines meeting Euro I, Euro II, Euro III, Euro IV and Euro V emission requirements and running under very severe conditions, e.g. significantly extended oil drain intervals according to the manufacturer's recommendations. It is suitable for EGR engines, with or without particulate filters, and for engines fitted with SCR NOx reduction systems. E6 quality is strongly recommended for engines fitted with particulate filters and is designed for use in combination with low sulphur diesel fuel. However, recommendations may differ between engine manufacturers so Driver Manuals and/or Dealers shall be consulted if in doubt.

E7 Stable, stay-in-grade oil providing effective control with respect to piston cleanliness and bore polishing. It further provides excellent wear control, soot handling and lubricant stability. It is recommended for highly rated diesel engines meeting Euro I, Euro II, Euro III, Euro IV and Euro V emission requirements and running under severe conditions, e.g. extended oil drain intervals according to the manufacturer's recommendations. It is suitable for engines without particulate filters, and for most EGR engines and most engines fitted with SCR NOx reduction systems. However, recommendations may differ between engine manufacturers so Driver Manuals and/or Dealers shall be consulted if in doubt.

E9 Stable, stay-in-grade oil providing effective control with respect to piston cleanliness and bore polishing. It further provides excellent wear control, soot handling and lubricant stability. It is recommended for highly rated diesel engines meeting Euro I, Euro II, Euro III, Euro IV and Euro V emission requirements and running under severe conditions, e.g. extended oil drain intervals according to the manufacturer's recommendations. It is suitable for engines with or without particulate filters, and for most EGR engines and for most engines fitted with SCR NOx reduction systems. E9 is strongly recommended for engines fitted with particulate filters and is designed for use in combination with low sulphur diesel fuel. However, recommendations may differ between engine manufacturers so Drivers Manuals and/or Dealers should be consulted if in doubt.


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