Idling is bad for your engine..

[niky]

Para namang naka-dialysis yung makina mo kung sobrang segurista ka. Yup, diesels idle cold. I can idle my engine for a good 15 minutes without it reaching half its operating temp! Lalo na pag malamig yung panahon. This is also partly due to how diesels are built, matibay talaga and compression is high so they're made to withstand so much abuse.

Well, that's why some diesels in cold climates have block heaters para isasaksak mo sa outlet so it will warm up the block para when you start it, much easier. Nung una ko nakita yung plug (looks like a normal plug) akala ko may naiwan na electrical appliance sa loob ng makina! That's when I found out about it.

Well, I am considering at least getting a pre-lube system. Might be too much for street work, but I do want to keep the car a long time.

Oh, yes, masyado akong OA... I used to wear a mask while commuting, until I realized it wasn't actually filtering out the pollution on Taft that had given me a chronic cough in College.

[Picard]

Ito sabi sa manual ko:

Normal starting procedure

Engine should be warmed up by driving,
not in idle. For warming up, drive with
smoothly turning engine until engine cool-
ant temperature is within the normal range.

Notice on three-way catalytic converter

So not allow the engine to run at
first idle speed for more than 10
minutes or at normal idle speed for
more than 20 minutes.

[RafRaf]

Dami ko kasalanan dito... one time brownout, sa loob kami ng sasakyan nagpalamig... for more than 30mins! Tapos, usually kapag mainit palalamigin ko muna sasakyan bago sumakay mag-ina ko, so naka-idle ako for more than 5mins tapos ON pa ang aircon.

Meron ako napansin sa sasakyan ko, hirap ipasok sa second gear kapag unang andar. So minsan matagal muna ako sa first gear... hanggang makalabas ng gate ng subdivision.

[ian_rex]

ako i warm up my turbo diesel. won't risk damaging my turbos by running cold engines. but i sensibly drive my diesel to warm it up though.

[OTEP]

OT lang. Sir mbeige, saan mo nakuha yang online version ng Benz manual?

Naghahanap kasi ako para sa W108. Ang alam ko lang na may W108 ay si Dr. Bagsic of MBCP pero wala din ata siya manual.

BTTT:
Idling isn't necessarily bad. It just doesn't have much benefit...

[boybi]

Dami ko kasalanan dito... one time brownout, sa loob kami ng sasakyan nagpalamig... for more than 30mins! Tapos, usually kapag mainit palalamigin ko muna sasakyan bago sumakay mag-ina ko, so naka-idle ako for more than 5mins tapos ON pa ang aircon.

Meron ako napansin sa sasakyan ko, hirap ipasok sa second gear kapag unang andar. So minsan matagal muna ako sa first gear... hanggang makalabas ng gate ng subdivision.

hindi naman kasalanan yang ginagawa mo. ginagawa ko rin yan everytime na brownout, ang kung nasa NLEX ako tapos inantok ako, park ako sa mga gas stations tapos matutulog akong naka ON ang engine.

[Picard]

hindi naman kasalanan yang ginagawa mo. ginagawa ko rin yan everytime na brownout, ang kung nasa NLEX ako tapos inantok ako, park ako sa mga gas stations tapos matutulog akong naka ON ang engine.

oooo scary.....hehehe! siguro naman nakabukas nang bahagya ang bintana mo..

[boybi]

hindi nga e, baka mapagtripan ako at maghagis ng kung anu ano.

[cocoy]

im noticed in my starex that when u first start it up, it idles above 1000RPM then after a few minute it wil idle below 8RPM, it does it all by it self.. so how can that be bad?

[lakay]

That what I do, start the truck, change the CD or Radio station, then drive slowly (residential) for about mile. Idling for longer that 15 seconds is just a waste of fuel. I even turn off my truck when I get stuck in the railroad crossing.

[falken]

Just keep the engine idling for 30 secs after you start (to let the lubricants circulate) then start moving at low rpm.

[mbeige]

OT lang. Sir mbeige, saan mo nakuha yang online version ng Benz manual?

Naghahanap kasi ako para sa W108. Ang alam ko lang na may W108 ay si Dr. Bagsic of MBCP pero wala din ata siya manual.

BTTT:
Idling isn't necessarily bad. It just doesn't have much benefit...

OT: Hi Doc,

Nakuha ko yung manual here while searching around:

http://www.foro.pieldetoro.net/web/M....php?MANUAL=14

That is for the w123D European versions but I'm not sure lang where to get the 108/109 manuals. Si Sid ng MBCP may 109 300sel 3.5 yata maybe knows where to get some? Also, do you know if Doc Bagsic is still in touch with Eric V.?

Also this site may be useful pero the language of the scanned manuals may not, I haven't scoured the site that much yet but it's worth a shot dahil maraming tech info:

http://www.c123klubas.com/eng.htm

edit: Doc, I found the link after trial and error (change the last number of the URL to some number, I found that 6 leads to the 108/109 manual)

http://www.foro.pieldetoro.net/web/M...e.php?MANUAL=6



Guys when you're idling underground like sa mall parking or where ventilation is bad, please know the recirculation feature of your vehicles is designed to allow a minimal amount of air into the car. Even if it's also set to recirculate inside air. So with that you may be inhaling noxious CO gasses that has no smell or color at hindi niyo rin alam.

[SNAKE V6]

im noticed in my starex that when u first start it up, it idles above 1000RPM then after a few minute it wil idle below 8RPM, it does it all by it self.. so how can that be bad?

Ganyan din yung oto ko, pero mga 10 secs lang, pag baba sa 800 andar nako..

[alexzkhy]

Kahit nga yun Altis pag bagong start akyat muna sa ~1,300rpm tapos baba din after around 30 secs

[sirmykel]

wow dami ko na dapat baguhin sa morning rituals ko
pero ndi naman 3 mins ung warm up ko eh pero mga 1 min lang hehehe

[mbeige]

New cars idle up in the morning to warm up the engine faster. Given today's demands for a faster lifestyle, it's necessary.

That's also very true for cars in cold climates.

[radiazone]

ako abot 5 minutes idling sayang fuel.... salamat sa infos

[abe]

idling bad?.. paano pag trapik.. idling tayo minsan for more than 30 mins di ba..

[Camgen6]

Please correct me if I'm wrong pero di ba pag EFI ang makina di na kailangan i-warm up?

[mikey177]

For my turbodiesels, I idle for around 20 seconds before driving off in low gear, keeping engine revs under 2000 rpm.

Nakakapikon lang minsan kasi paglabas ng gate namin, provincial highway kaagad. Eh sa bagal ng takbo ko pag cold start, pati mga tricycle at kuliglig ino-overtake ako