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    Thanks!

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    My 3sm enduro died yesterday. It only last 29 months on my alterra at. Buti na lang may motolite delivery express. Enduro din kinuha ko 5.1k with trade in. Medyo dis appoint lang ako for its price 5.1k di man lang umabot ng 3 yrs parang di sulit. Wala lang kasing nearby nag bebenta ng batt. Kaya nag pa deliver na lang ako. Yung oriental battery sa innova diesel matic exactly 3 yrs nun pinalitan ko. Kahit pwede pa.sya nun pinalitan ko na for.peace of mind.

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    Maganda if you use car battery voltmeter inside your vehicle para lagi namo-monitor ang battery voltage and charging. Hindi ka mabibigla na lang dead na pala battery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red_one View Post
    Maganda if you use car battery voltmeter inside your vehicle para lagi namo-monitor ang battery voltage and charging. Hindi ka mabibigla na lang dead na pala battery.

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    i used to have a voltmeter, hindi naman accurate yung mga yun masyado. VDO brand yung sakin dati, nagpakita parin 12 volts tapos nun stinart ko yung car at first mabilis yung ikot ng starter tapos right away bumagal tapos nag click na lng... dun lang nagpakita na 8 volts na lng ang battery level ko...


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    Quote Originally Posted by carguy101 View Post
    i used to have a voltmeter, hindi naman accurate yung mga yun masyado. VDO brand yung sakin dati, nagpakita parin 12 volts tapos nun stinart ko yung car at first mabilis yung ikot ng starter tapos right away bumagal tapos nag click na lng... dun lang nagpakita na 8 volts na lng ang battery level ko...


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    12.0 V is low. The battery is almost flat at that point so internal resistance will be high (and cranking will be poor). Terminal voltage will fall as you apply load (like using the starter), especially if the battery is no longer new.

    A fully charged flooded battery should read 12.6 to 12.8 V after the surface charge is removed. Most cars cannot fully charge their batteries because of use case (they don't get driven for hours at a time), so 12.3 to 12.5 V is what most can expect as normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red_one View Post
    12.0 V is low. The battery is almost flat at that point so internal resistance will be high (and cranking will be poor). Terminal voltage will fall as you apply load (like using the starter), especially if the battery is no longer new.

    A fully charged flooded battery should read 12.6 to 12.8 V after the surface charge is removed. Most cars cannot fully charge their batteries because of use case (they don't get driven for hours at a time), so 12.3 to 12.5 V is what most can expect as normal.

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    i cannot say for sure its at 12.0 exactly because the voltmeter in my car isnt digital, its analog... but yes the battery on that car was old, and i only use that car for city driving...


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    Quote Originally Posted by carguy101 View Post
    i used to have a voltmeter, hindi naman accurate yung mga yun masyado. VDO brand yung sakin dati, nagpakita parin 12 volts tapos nun stinart ko yung car at first mabilis yung ikot ng starter tapos right away bumagal tapos nag click na lng... dun lang nagpakita na 8 volts na lng ang battery level ko...


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    with the engine running, the voltmeter shows the alternator's output, po.
    with the engine not running, the voltage displayed is the battery's own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    with the engine running, the voltmeter shows the alternator's output, po.
    with the engine not running, the voltage displayed is the battery's own.
    yes, with the engine running my voltmeter reads higher than 13 volts, about 14.something i guess...


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    Quote Originally Posted by carguy101 View Post
    i cannot say for sure its at 12.0 exactly because the voltmeter in my car isnt digital, its analog... but yes the battery on that car was old, and i only use that car for city driving...


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    Ito gamit kong 3 in 1 digital car voltmeter. It is also thermometer and USB charger.

    My battery voltage before starting is 12.3V so still good.



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    Quote Originally Posted by carguy101 View Post
    yes, with the engine running my voltmeter reads higher than 13 volts, about 14.something i guess...


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    That is low. With engine running, voltage reading should be above 14V. Battery will start charging at 13.8V. And the alternator still need to provide power to other electricals.



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    The 3-year-old Amaron Hilife in the daily driven Vios is still ok. It gets driven more than an hour in the morning and at night. Haven't checked voltages though but no problems starting the car yet. Given its age I better get ready for the inevitable.

    BTW are CTEK chargers worth it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by red_one View Post
    Maganda if you use car battery voltmeter inside your vehicle para lagi namo-monitor ang battery voltage and charging. Hindi ka mabibigla na lang dead na pala battery.

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    maganda nga yan bro, meron din ako niyan but those plug-in digital voltmeters is just to indicate the voltage (of course!) but not to show yung actual health ng battery. yung last na battery ko (motolite excel) was working perfectly fine, then one morning, bigla na lang na dead meron sa casa sila ginagamit, they can see the percentage ng life ng battery.

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    Ganyan din nangyar sakin, meron ako scan guage to monitor the voltage pero di din niya ako na warn in advance na pa deads na battery ko.One day bigla na lang nag 11.2v at di na kaya mag start. Meron pa ko trickle charger para sa battery na i aangat naman iya ulit voltage pero it will not hold the charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmpet626 View Post
    Ganyan din nangyar sakin, meron ako scan guage to monitor the voltage pero di din niya ako na warn in advance na pa deads na battery ko.One day bigla na lang nag 11.2v at di na kaya mag start. Meron pa ko trickle charger para sa battery na i aangat naman iya ulit voltage pero it will not hold the charge.
    Do you measure the battery voltage after you park the car and shut down the engine? This will inform you if the battery got fully charged or not.

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    I have an analog multimeter at home for checking on battery voltage, charging, etc. Before I bought a new battery for our Vios, the old battery soldiered on for about a month and a half on 10.4 volts.

    Yup, the engine can start on 10.4 volts.

    When the voltage dropped to 8.5, hindi na pwede.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowslowbenz View Post
    I have an analog multimeter at home for checking on battery voltage, charging, etc. Before I bought a new battery for our Vios, the old battery soldiered on for about a month and a half on 10.4 volts.

    Yup, the engine can start on 10.4 volts.

    When the voltage dropped to 8.5, hindi na pwede.
    i can't remember na when was the last time i replaced the battery ng lumang vios ko (2006 model). pero mas longer ang ang life span ng battery ng vios ko kesa sa montero considering na gamit na gamit at daily drive din dahil panghatid/sundo sa daughter ko to school which is mga 30-45 mins from home. nakadalawang palit na ako sa montero sa vios yun pa rin. my SL grandia (bought Nov 2014) di pa rin nagpapalit battery ok pa naman...

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    Quote Originally Posted by red_one View Post
    Do you measure the battery voltage after you park the car and shut down the engine? This will inform you if the battery got fully charged or not.

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    Sinusukat ko after a few seconds after shutting down the car. Then measure again in the morning before starting the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmpet626 View Post
    Sinusukat ko after a few seconds after shutting down the car. Then measure again in the morning before starting the car.
    That's good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monty_GTV View Post
    i can't remember na when was the last time i replaced the battery ng lumang vios ko (2006 model). pero mas longer ang ang life span ng battery ng vios ko kesa sa montero considering na gamit na gamit at daily drive din dahil panghatid/sundo sa daughter ko to school which is mga 30-45 mins from home. nakadalawang palit na ako sa montero sa vios yun pa rin. my SL grandia (bought Nov 2014) di pa rin nagpapalit battery ok pa naman...
    Diesels have pre-heaters. Even if its direct injection, CRDi, DDi, EGTV, etc.

    They still have pre-heaters, which equate to battery juice being used up.

    I have a Strada 4D56. When I turn on the engine, the heater (idiot) light just flashes then turns off. Basically this will tell you that the engine is ready to start, di ba? What others would not know is that the heater relay is still in the "on" position. And this relay dis-engages a good 5-10 seconds after the heater light went off!

    I don't know if its the same with a Montero, but upon turning my engine on, I hear a slight "knock" ... that's the heater relay energizing. It will continue to energize, way after the heater light went off. In about 10 seconds, the heater relay will dis-engage, (you will hear it "knock: again).

    That's when I start my engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monty_GTV View Post
    maganda nga yan bro, meron din ako niyan but those plug-in digital voltmeters is just to indicate the voltage (of course!) but not to show yung actual health ng battery. yung last na battery ko (motolite excel) was working perfectly fine, then one morning, bigla na lang na dead meron sa casa sila ginagamit, they can see the percentage ng life ng battery.

    This is true, but it helps in a way considering excel is the top product of motolite you have to put the age of the battery in your mind, the service it is in, i.e. diesel engine, short trip, etc, adding up, then a trip to the battery shop to test the holding capacity of the battery will help you a lot to prepare!

    This is my experience on my Excel which lasted nearly 4 years on my old FX diesel.

Battery life span