Amaron battery

[brainmafia_310]

IMO sir i dont think that would be a problem...

may Generator sets kami used for continous operation-- it uses two 4D BATTERIES... ang alternator nasa 65amperes lng...

Hehehe, sa isang building na minemaintain ko 4*1500kw naka series 2*8D each, naka battery charger sya separate walang alternator brand is monark catterpillar. Kaya nya upto 6times cranking without charging pero haba ng charging time ko pagnadrain ng husto battery.

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[glenn manikis]

Hehehe, sa isang building na minemaintain ko 4*1500kw naka series 2*8D each, naka battery charger sya separate walang alternator brand is monark catterpillar. Kaya nya upto 6times cranking without charging pero haba ng charging time ko pagnadrain ng husto battery.

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o.t. lang

4 na 1500kw..!! mall ba yan? anong mall sir?

pag nasira gensets nyo... sakin nalang kayo bumile... kahit 15M lang ang bnew 2.5mw- cummins...

[brainmafia_310]

Hehehe. Commercial building along ayala makati. Fanatic ako ng cummins at catterpillar genset sa maliliit iveco. Ok ang detroit pero may issue ata sa aftersales support.

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[glenn manikis]

Hehehe. Commercial building along ayala makati. Fanatic ako ng cummins at catterpillar genset sa maliliit iveco. Ok ang detroit pero may issue ata sa aftersales support.

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kahit mag o.p. ka pa ng 2m dyan mura pa din yan sir... subject to taxes nga lang he.he..

[Flipo]

No impact on the alternator, incase of discharge longer discharge time even longer charging time because of the capacity of alternator. The probability of a discharge is low because you have the same load or plus minus around 1% if you have minor mods like more powerful horn, higher bukb wattage but not hid or other.

But for the starter, it is a myth because the starter power is constant. meaning if 1sn is sufficient 1sn is sufficient, getting 8d will not make a difference to the starter except for the number of times the battery can start the engine without charging.

This is a good discussion and I'm learning a lot that also includes the reply of glenn manikis

By the way, lead is 100% recyclable and would not make any difference if the lead is freshly mined under a certain mountain or recycled from other components, it is the design, manufacturing process and other stuff that makes a difference to prevent deterioration of components inside the battery.

Hth.

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Thank' s to your reply and to glenn manikis, and this become a good discussion and I'm learning a lot.

copy past from the article link by jick.cejoco:

PASS/FAIL: BATTERY TESTING & SERVICING by BY BOB PATTENGALE

In many cases when a battery fails, the recommended exact-match battery may not be available, so a substitute will be installed to get the customer going. If the battery selected is smaller—less cold cranking amps (CCA)—than recommended, an overcharging issue may occur.
If the battery selected has a higher CCA than recommended, an undercharging issue may occur. In either case, this may reduce the life of the battery and create other electrical issues. In the case of the starting system, a higher capacity battery may be the cause of a starter that fails prematurely or causes mechanical damage at the pinion or flywheel ring gear.

may I know the take of our experts here...

[brainmafia_310]

Thank' s to your reply and to glenn manikis, and this become a good discussion and I'm learning a lot.

copy past from the article link by jick.cejoco:

PASS/FAIL: BATTERY TESTING & SERVICING by BY BOB PATTENGALE

In many cases when a battery fails, the recommended exact-match battery may not be available, so a substitute will be installed to get the customer going. If the battery selected is smaller—less cold cranking amps (CCA)—than recommended, an overcharging issue may occur.
If the battery selected has a higher CCA than recommended, an undercharging issue may occur. In either case, this may reduce the life of the battery and create other electrical issues. In the case of the starting system, a higher capacity battery may be the cause of a starter that fails prematurely or causes mechanical damage at the pinion or flywheel ring gear.

may I know the take of our experts here...

Better english but same with what what i and glenn mentioned on some point. I think you should share the whole note so that we can understand the point of the author completely.

However, i may argue that there is always an engineering tolerance level where i may safely say - safety factor or in short overdesign. I am not an electrical engineer but its not a rocket science - what is the difference/issue of your electric fan of instead connecting it to a 220v 20amps regular outlet against an outlet tapped to the main line of 220v 100amps.

Next, starter assembly is not rocket science - it just basically needs certain amount of power to rotate/crank the engine.

Hth.

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[Flipo]

Better english but same with what what i and glenn mentioned on some point. I think you should share the whole note so that we can understand the point of the author completely.

However, i may argue that there is always an engineering tolerance level where i may safely say - safety factor or in short overdesign. I am not an electrical engineer but its not a rocket science - what is the difference/issue of your electric fan of instead connecting it to a 220v 20amps regular outlet against an outlet tapped to the main line of 220v 100amps.

the whole article:
http://www.motor.com/magazine/pdfs/122012_09.pdf


Next, starter assembly is not rocket science - it just basically needs certain amount of power to rotate/crank the engine.

Hth.

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the whole article posted by jick.cejoco:
http://www.motor.com/magazine/pdfs/122012_09.pdf

[brainmafia_310]

So tama ako - same ng statement namin ni glenn, pero chargers are equipped with controller kaya di na uso sa car ang overcharging kasi normally voltage ang basis and the ampere side is the ability of the charger to charge the battery for x number of hours per given capacity, smaller battery may issue it may not start the car because of cca requirement. As battery discharges voltage relatively drops to certain amount. di ko na binasa ng husto article nagfocus na lang ako sa scenario na quote mo.

So simple lang to, nakalagay sa statement "may be the cause" which imho possible mangyari kung ang auto mo is old school na hindi bumibitaw ung starter and/or hindi din bumibitaw ung crank switch automatically.

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[RC-V]

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sulit na rin yan sir pag umabot more than 3yrs MG mo.

yung nagamit kong motolite gold 21 mos. warranty umabot sya ng 24months.

next purchase definitely amaron na, kaso matagal pa yun 2015 pa.

[Retz]

Hehehe. Commercial building along ayala makati. Fanatic ako ng cummins at catterpillar genset sa maliliit iveco. Ok ang detroit pero may issue ata sa aftersales support.

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naka parallel operation na gensets niyo sir.

[brainmafia_310]

Yup. Nakasynchro panel with load shedding.

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[Retz]

^

pero bihira na lang mag brownout sa metro manila so standby genset lang talaga yan sir.

[mikkoy_99]

Kabibili ko lang ng Amaron 3SMF nung sabado, kapalit ng Motolite Excel (halos 4 years din). Ayoko sana kunin pero wala na talaga yung lumang battery kaya subukan. Mas mura keysa Motolite Gold, pareho naman 21 month warranty.

[Retz]

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parang nasa gitna ng gold and enduro price ng amaron.

[wranglerboy]

ako din napalitan ko na din yung baterya ng jazz ko (ns40) with amaron. delkor yung pinagpalitan more than 1 year na siya. nararamdaman ko na mahina na during starting kaya nagpalit na ko. sa r.s.espejo ko nabili 3.4K less 150 sa trade-in. bandang sumulong ang shop nila malapit na sa masinag, right side pag galing marikina. so far okay naman...

[Retz]

ung mga naka amaron battery na, kindly monitor para malaman natin knug gaano talaga tumatagal ang baterya na yan.

[cpsolt]

mine is equipped with amaron mf batteries when i got my zuki alto. it's good to read na maganda pala ang feedback about amaron. hehehe

[baludoy]

sa las pinas tsikoteers, nakita ko nung friday nagbebenta ng amaron batteries ang bluezone. di ko lang alam kung kelan pa

[Retz]

sana ung stock battery ng toyota gawin amaron na rin.

[niwde11]

kakabili ko lang ng 3sm amaron kanina sa banawe. same posted price sa taas(Otep post).