Amaron battery

[Ry_Tower]

comtec brand sir.. japan surplus, madalas naka-kabit sa mga nissan silvia..
model is: BETIME 125, full auto linear...

meh warp-up function (10min preset)
full auto time( calculates desired time based on usage)
manual ( min/sec selectable from 10sec to 10min)

i was able to determine na diode was the one that caused the parasitic drain( drained battery in just 2 hours), kasi i removed the BTN fuse sa fusebox. ayun nawala voltage drop, so inisa-isa ko lahat fuse sa kick panel, lahat wala consume ng wattage except one, yung sa ignition line, eh naka off naman engine, so silip ko sa ilalim nakita ko yung kinabit before na diode, sobrang init at halos di mahawakan at mapapaso ka, kaya sure na ako na yun sira, to confirm this, tinangal ko yung diode, let the car sit for 4 hours uli then started it.. walang drain na nangyari, eh diode lang tinangal ko from the previous set-up, kaya siya na for sure culprit.

nung unang install yung turbo timer, pinagawa ko sa electrician sa banawe...
ang problem is yung alarm ko na autopage, ay may doorlock open feature pag namatay engine.

pag off engine, mag start na countdown, lalabas ka na vehicle tapos lo-lock muna doors( alarm is armed), pag naubos na yung time sa turbo timer at nag off na engine, ma-sense ng alarm na nag off na ang ignition, mangyayari send siya signal sa door switch para bumukas.

para hindi bumukas door lock kahit naubos na countdown sa timer, there will be two approach...
1. put a diode sa ignition sense wire ng alarm
2. put two relays in tandem in order to basically cut the supply of the ignition sense wire of the alarm once turbo timer cuts supply of 12volts to the ignition line.

ang ginamit ng electrician before was the diode method.
pag meh diode it will only allow current to go/flow in just one side or one direction.parang check valve. para kahit mamatay ang ignition after countdown hindi ito ma-sense ni alarm.

ang problem diodes tend to die randomly without warning, pag nasira si diode chances are mag consume ng power kahit hindi dapat, kasi naka tap sa ignition line.

what i did was do the second option above ako na mismo ang gumawa ng wiring set-up. magulo mag wiring mga taga banawe eh. placed two relays in tandem to de-couple the supply of the ignition line where the alarm senses whether ignition is off or once the turbo timer starts its countdown...

lines tapped from OEm harness
12v constant supply
white thick wire ( ignition wire before the key switch)
ignition sense wire after key switch ( black with red stripe)

pag ganito no need ng diode, at hindi mag open ang door lock kahit matapos ang countdown at mag off ang engine.
kaya walang pwede masira ng mag drain ng power. ayoko na kasi maulit na ma-drain battery dahil sa sirang diode.

Lupit talaga ni miko. hehehe

Happy new year sir.

[s10pao]

para hindi bumukas door lock kahit naubos na countdown sa timer, there will be two approach...
1. put a diode sa ignition sense wire ng alarm
2. put two relays in tandem in order to basically cut the supply of the ignition sense wire of the alarm once turbo timer cuts supply of 12volts to the ignition line.

ang ginamit ng electrician before was the diode method.
pag meh diode it will only allow current to go/flow in just one side or one direction.parang check valve. para kahit mamatay ang ignition after countdown hindi ito ma-sense ni alarm.

ang problem diodes tend to die randomly without warning, pag nasira si diode chances are mag consume ng power kahit hindi dapat, kasi naka tap sa ignition line.

what i did was do the second option above ako na mismo ang gumawa ng wiring set-up. magulo mag wiring mga taga banawe eh. placed two relays in tandem to de-couple the supply of the ignition line where the alarm senses whether ignition is off or once the turbo timer starts its countdown...

lines tapped from OEm harness
12v constant supply
white thick wire ( ignition wire before the key switch)
ignition sense wire after key switch ( black with red stripe)

pag ganito no need ng diode, at hindi mag open ang door lock kahit matapos ang countdown at mag off ang engine.
kaya walang pwede masira ng mag drain ng power. ayoko na kasi maulit na ma-drain battery dahil sa sirang diode.

sir curious lang ako, bakit hindi na lang tanggalin ung sense wire o diretso ikabit sa ground/12VDC?

[miko101130]

sir curious lang ako, bakit hindi na lang tanggalin ung sense wire o diretso ikabit sa ground/12VDC?

yung sense wire ng alarm sir na naka tap sa ignition makes the door unlock when you off the engine from the key switch.

pag pasok mo ng kotse tapos nag ignition ka ( provided all doors are closed) mag-lolock yung doors. (autolock)
pag off mo naman ng ignition (provided all doors are closed) mag un-lock naman doors.(auto unlock)

most brands ng alarm has this, pag tinangal yung sense wire... babalik sa manual opening yung doors.
bubukas lang doors kung manual mo i-switch sa door panel mo o hatakin mo pataas yung lock sa driver side regardless kung off or on engine...

the dilemma mostly pag install ng turbo timer ay pag meh auto lock/unlock feature yung alarm, after the countdown eh mag unlock yung door which should not happen after you have left the car and lock the doors.

kaya to go around this, the two approach mentioned above should be taken, hehehe...
sorry mods medyo na off topic, hehehe

[crazy_boy]

Miko, malapit na mag 21 months since you started this thread. mukhang so far so good sayo yung Amaron na unang nabili mo

[miko101130]

Miko, malapit na mag 21 months since you started this thread. mukhang so far so good sayo yung Amaron na unang nabili mo

ahahaha... yep malapit na... sana tumagal nga talaga,,, hihi

[Ginnova]

palitin na rin yung 2SN ( low maint ) battery ko which i bought for 1.6K last June2012. Planning to replace it with Amaron. How much ang 2SN ngayon without trade-in.

[crazy_boy]

2SMF without trade 4,300 sa Metrobat. Post ko pricelist nila mamaya.

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[Retz]

OT lang..... okay ba ang car battery dealership business? anyone into this business?

[crazy_boy]

Retz, lahat naman ng business ok e. Depends on how you manage it lang.

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[crazy_boy]

price list of Metrobat

[Chikselog]

Miko, malapit na mag 21 months since you started this thread. mukhang so far so good sayo yung Amaron na unang nabili mo

Medyo convinced na ako sa Amaron since umabot ng 21 months kay miko. Ang problema na lang sana tumagal pa after ng warranty period hehe. Halos magkapresyo or mas mura pa nga ata ang Amaron kaysa sa Motolite Enduro (15 mos warranty), so pwede na rin.

*sir cb
Sir, 1SM or 1SN, yung sa Vios?

[crazy_boy]

Medyo convinced na ako sa Amaron since umabot ng 21 months kay miko. Ang problema na lang sana tumagal pa after ng warranty period hehe. Halos magkapresyo or mas mura pa nga ata ang Amaron kaysa sa Motolite Enduro (15 mos warranty), so pwede na rin.

*sir cb
Sir, 1SM or 1SN, yung sa Vios?

chiks, based sa Motolite website, NS60 ang vios. Pero alam ko si JohnM 1SNF ang nakakabit sa vios niya.

yung binili ko kasi para sa Jimny e 4000 pesos yung 1SNF na 21 months ng Motolite.

[Manilablock]

Kaninang 8am pagpark ko naiwan nakabukas ung isang cabin light, pagbalik ko ng 6pm worry ako na baka discharge na ung 2SM amaron ko, one click pa din sa pag start, april 2013 ko nabili sa jawe

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[miko101130]

aabot kaya ito ng 5 years? 5 years kasi warranty nito sa india eh... ahaha. record yung pag umabot itong amaron ko ng 60 months.

[crazy_boy]

Miko, parang 2+3 yata warranty sa india if im not mistaken. 2 years na outright replacement, then 3 years repair? Parang ganun nabasa ko sa ibang forum. Pero malalaman natin kung ok ba talaga amaron hehe update mo lang kami.

Nung nakuha ko amaron kanina, 10.+ volts lang before nung unang start base sa volt meter ko.then after mga 20km use, naging 12.+ na pag naka off engine

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[Retz]

Mas mura amaron compared sa motolite excel? Pag umabot 5 years yan naku mawawalan ng stock yan gaya ng baldwin filter. Lol.


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[Chikselog]

chiks, based sa Motolite website, NS60 ang vios. Pero alam ko si JohnM 1SNF ang nakakabit sa vios niya.

yung binili ko kasi para sa Jimny e 4000 pesos yung 1SNF na 21 months ng Motolite.

Mas malaki ba yung 1SM? Hehe kala ko iisa lang yung "1" na size, dalawa pala. SN and SM. Check ko nga yung akin hehe.


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[Flipo]

^
4300 pesos ang bili ko ng 2SMF noong September 2013...

mukhang hinahabol nila ang presyo ng Motolite dahil popular na sila due to endorsement from tsikot!

[crazy_boy]

Mas malaki ba yung 1SM? Hehe kala ko iisa lang yung "1" na size, dalawa pala. SN and SM. Check ko nga yung akin hehe.


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Yep 2 klase yung size "1". Im not sure sa size difference ng M sa N hehe. But better check to be sure. Or ask natin sa JohnM. Naka amaron na yun e hehe

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[JohnM]

Yep 2 klase yung size "1". Im not sure sa size difference ng M sa N hehe. But better check to be sure. Or ask natin sa JohnM. Naka amaron na yun e hehe

Check ko mamya. Nasa oto kasi ang resibo. At those prices halos pareho na pala sila kay FCL Hagios. Si Jawe di pa nagtataas?