Amaron battery

[crazy_boy]

Meron kaya sa Libis area? Wala pa akong nakikita na malapit sa Libis area.

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[[archie]]

mas maliit kasi terminals ng amaron than motolite. Lalo yung Japan.

[Flipo]

As I read through the thread, mas marami daw plates (13) ang Amaron kaysa Motolite, hence mas mataas ang current capacity nito.
Hindi kaya mahirapan ang stock alternator in my case Excel 2SF, dahil mas mataas ang current requirement?

Thank's po

[Retz]

As I read through the thread, mas marami daw plates (13) ang Amaron kaysa Motolite, hence mas mataas ang current capacity nito.
Hindi kaya mahirapan ang stock alternator in my case Excel 2SF, dahil mas mataas ang current requirement?

Thank's po

nahirapan alternator? hindi yan sir.

[Retz]

mas maliit kasi terminals ng amaron than motolite. Lalo yung Japan.

adjustable naman ang clamps diba sir?

[[archie]]

As I read through the thread, mas marami daw plates (13) ang Amaron kaysa Motolite, hence mas mataas ang current capacity nito.
Hindi kaya mahirapan ang stock alternator in my case Excel 2SF, dahil mas mataas ang current requirement?

Thank's po

hindi naman, your starter and other electronics still demand the same current. mas ok Amaron kasi it takes a lot to discharge.

adjustable naman ang clamps diba sir?

kaya naman kung stock. basta hindi loose ok na. adjustable to a certain extent lang. In my case, nagpalit ako positive kasi maluwag and kailangan ng sheet metal para sumikip. teac Japan is ideal for me kasi pasok na pasok.

[Flipo]

hindi naman, your starter and other electronics still demand the same current. mas ok Amaron kasi it takes a lot to discharge.

higher capacity means good for the starter, which demands the highest load, and the same current for other load which takes a longer time to discharge, is a positive thing!
but my worry is the current needed to charge the battery with our stock alternator?

[brainmafia_310]

higher capacity means good for the starter, which demands the highest load, and the same current for other load which takes a longer time to discharge, is a positive thing!
but my worry is the current needed to charge the battery with our stock alternator?

No impact on the alternator, incase of discharge longer discharge time even longer charging time because of the capacity of alternator. The probability of a discharge is low because you have the same load or plus minus around 1% if you have minor mods like more powerful horn, higher bukb wattage but not hid or other.

But for the starter, it is a myth because the starter power is constant. meaning if 1sn is sufficient 1sn is sufficient, getting 8d will not make a difference to the starter except for the number of times the battery can start the engine without charging.

By the way, lead is 100% recyclable and would not make any difference if the lead is freshly mined under a certain mountain or recycled from other components, it is the design, manufacturing process and other stuff that makes a difference to prevent deterioration of components inside the battery.



Hth.

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[Flipo]

No impact on the alternator, incase of discharge longer discharge time even longer charging time because of the capacity of alternator. The probability of a discharge is low because you have the same load or plus minus around 1% if you have minor mods like more powerful horn, higher bukb wattage but not hid or other.

But for the starter, it is a myth because the starter power is constant. meaning if 1sn is sufficient 1sn is sufficient, getting 8d will not make a difference to the starter except for the number of times the battery can start the engine without charging.

This is a good discussion and I'm learning a lot that also includes the reply of glenn manikis

By the way, lead is 100% recyclable and would not make any difference if the lead is freshly mined under a certain mountain or recycled from other components, it is the design, manufacturing process and other stuff that makes a difference to prevent deterioration of components inside the battery.

Hth.

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Thank' s to your reply and to glenn manikis, and this become a good discussion and I'm learning a lot.

copy past from the article link by jick.cejoco:

PASS/FAIL: BATTERY TESTING & SERVICING by BY BOB PATTENGALE

In many cases when a battery fails, the recommended exact-match battery may not be available, so a substitute will be installed to get the customer going. If the battery selected is smaller—less cold cranking amps (CCA)—than recommended, an overcharging issue may occur.
If the battery selected has a higher CCA than recommended, an undercharging issue may occur. In either case, this may reduce the life of the battery and create other electrical issues. In the case of the starting system, a higher capacity battery may be the cause of a starter that fails prematurely or causes mechanical damage at the pinion or flywheel ring gear.

may I know the take of our experts here...

[brainmafia_310]

Thank' s to your reply and to glenn manikis, and this become a good discussion and I'm learning a lot.

copy past from the article link by jick.cejoco:

PASS/FAIL: BATTERY TESTING & SERVICING by BY BOB PATTENGALE

In many cases when a battery fails, the recommended exact-match battery may not be available, so a substitute will be installed to get the customer going. If the battery selected is smaller—less cold cranking amps (CCA)—than recommended, an overcharging issue may occur.
If the battery selected has a higher CCA than recommended, an undercharging issue may occur. In either case, this may reduce the life of the battery and create other electrical issues. In the case of the starting system, a higher capacity battery may be the cause of a starter that fails prematurely or causes mechanical damage at the pinion or flywheel ring gear.

may I know the take of our experts here...

Better english but same with what what i and glenn mentioned on some point. I think you should share the whole note so that we can understand the point of the author completely.

However, i may argue that there is always an engineering tolerance level where i may safely say - safety factor or in short overdesign. I am not an electrical engineer but its not a rocket science - what is the difference/issue of your electric fan of instead connecting it to a 220v 20amps regular outlet against an outlet tapped to the main line of 220v 100amps.

Next, starter assembly is not rocket science - it just basically needs certain amount of power to rotate/crank the engine.

Hth.

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[glenn manikis]

higher capacity means good for the starter, which demands the highest load, and the same current for other load which takes a longer time to discharge, is a positive thing!
but my worry is the current needed to charge the battery with our stock alternator?

IMO sir i dont think that would be a problem...

may Generator sets kami used for continous operation-- it uses two 4D BATTERIES... ang alternator nasa 65amperes lng...

[brainmafia_310]

IMO sir i dont think that would be a problem...

may Generator sets kami used for continous operation-- it uses two 4D BATTERIES... ang alternator nasa 65amperes lng...

Hehehe, sa isang building na minemaintain ko 4*1500kw naka series 2*8D each, naka battery charger sya separate walang alternator brand is monark catterpillar. Kaya nya upto 6times cranking without charging pero haba ng charging time ko pagnadrain ng husto battery.

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[glenn manikis]

Hehehe, sa isang building na minemaintain ko 4*1500kw naka series 2*8D each, naka battery charger sya separate walang alternator brand is monark catterpillar. Kaya nya upto 6times cranking without charging pero haba ng charging time ko pagnadrain ng husto battery.

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o.t. lang

4 na 1500kw..!! mall ba yan? anong mall sir?

pag nasira gensets nyo... sakin nalang kayo bumile... kahit 15M lang ang bnew 2.5mw- cummins...

[crazy_boy]

For the battery terminal clamps, ordinary tanso ok na right?

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[[archie]]

basta mapasikip ok na. I think stock can do the job. yung akin kasi siguro sa kalumaan naor something kaya ayaw na sumikip positive yung nagpalit ako Amaron.

[Retz]

Stock clamps pa rin ang gamit ko. Kailangan pa bang paklitan ito or liha lang?

[[archie]]

As long as masikip pa clamps, ok pa yan. wag lihain kung wala naman problems.

[brainmafia_310]

Hehehe. Commercial building along ayala makati. Fanatic ako ng cummins at catterpillar genset sa maliliit iveco. Ok ang detroit pero may issue ata sa aftersales support.

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[glenn manikis]

Hehehe. Commercial building along ayala makati. Fanatic ako ng cummins at catterpillar genset sa maliliit iveco. Ok ang detroit pero may issue ata sa aftersales support.

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kahit mag o.p. ka pa ng 2m dyan mura pa din yan sir... subject to taxes nga lang he.he..

[Retz]

Hehehe. Commercial building along ayala makati. Fanatic ako ng cummins at catterpillar genset sa maliliit iveco. Ok ang detroit pero may issue ata sa aftersales support.

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naka parallel operation na gensets niyo sir.