BYD Sealion 6 DM-i

[ice15]

if the daily grind is 23.1 km,
and diesel is 60 bucks a liter,
and a liter gives 5 km,
that's 8,316 pesos per 30 days per car.
that's roughly half of the talk-er's claimed 15K monthly per vehicle.

la lang.
i just like doing basic math.

I also ran some of my personal numbers...

Zenix is almost 2M (plus the fact that I need to get it in installment - my banker will take care of this after a year)
If I purchase a 1.7M vehicle na non-hybrid, there's no way I can finish 300K worth of Gas in the next 5 years...

Pero the Zenix has no coding... something I forgot while running my numbers.

[dr. d]

I also ran some of my personal numbers...

Zenix is almost 2M (plus the fact that I need to get it in installment - my banker will take care of this after a year)
If I purchase a 1.7M vehicle na non-hybrid, there's no way I can finish 300K worth of Gas in the next 5 years...

Pero the Zenix has no coding... something I forgot while running my numbers.

yespo!
what some folks fail to take into consideration, is the negativeness of having to maintain and garage a coding car.
having a coding car necessitates additional garage space, additional maintenance, insurance, and LTO expenses that have to be paid, whether or not the vehicle is used, and the regular tetris exercises when one maneuvers to get at the car parked in the inner recess of the garage. try that in the rain or at night, folks! heh heh.

bottomline, having only one do-it-all car is a godsend. and to some, there is no price for a godsend.

lastly, "bragging rights, man!"
heh heh.

btw,
akala ko, na-tanggal na yang installment-or-else gimmick nang toyota, removed by herr toyoda himself...

[ice15]

yespo!
what some folks fail to take into consideration, is the negativeness of having to maintain and garage a coding car.
having a coding car necessitates additional garage space, additional maintenance, insurance, and LTO expenses that have to be paid, whether or not the vehicle is used, and the regular tetris exercises when one maneuvers to get at the car parked in the inner recess of the garage. try that in the rain or at night, folks! heh heh.

bottomline, having only one do-it-all car is a godsend. and to some, there is no price for a godsend.

lastly, "bragging rights, man!"
heh heh.

as of now... yung car ko (extra car na) is used by my daughter...
yung mga Vespa lang ang pahinga sa house

again, ito issue ko with "coding"
nadagdagan pa ng isang car yung nasa road.
dati, gamit namin ng wife ko yung car - daughter is renting a condo near her school... now that we have a spare car, she's driving... dagdag nanaman sa traffic.

btw,
akala ko, na-tanggal na yang installment-or-else gimmick nang toyota, removed by herr toyoda himself...

grabe... high ranking person pa sa Toyota tumulong sa amin.

As of July... Zenix Hybrid, Rav-4 Hybrid, Fortuner GR, Hilux GR, Corolla Cross, Camry -> kailangan installment. best offer na naitulong sa amin was BPI - pero di pwedeng direct... our contact was able to get us the next unit available, di na kami pumila.

Regular Fortuner, Hilux Conquest, Vios, Innova, Wigo, Rush, Avanza/Veloz, Yaris Cross (including the Hybrid) - pwede daw na cash

Corolla Altis Hybrid - almost impossible to buy daw, parang April/May pa last shipment nila

[Verbl Kint]

Some people spend as much as an extra 1,000 pesos a week just because of Grab during coding days. The more affluent get a second car just because of color coding.

There definitely is merit to getting a car with coding exemption.

[ale828]

currently you also have to factor in the free charging in the malls.
it reduced the cost of fuel immensely. especially if you frequent malls and use the car for mostly city driving.
they wont have this free charging forever so better to take advantage of it.

[boybi]

currently you also have to factor in the free charging in the malls.
it reduced the cost of fuel immensely. especially if you frequent malls and use the car for mostly city driving.
they wont have this free charging forever so better to take advantage of it.

A friend bought the Tang. It's been months already and he never charged it at home. Panay free charging sa mga malls and I think sa dealer din.

[dr. d]

as of now... yung car ko (extra car na) is used by my daughter...
yung mga Vespa lang ang pahinga sa house

again, ito issue ko with "coding"
nadagdagan pa ng isang car yung nasa road.
dati, gamit namin ng wife ko yung car - daughter is renting a condo near her school... now that we have a spare car, she's driving... dagdag nanaman sa traffic.



grabe... high ranking person pa sa Toyota tumulong sa amin.

As of July... Zenix Hybrid, Rav-4 Hybrid, Fortuner GR, Hilux GR, Corolla Cross, Camry -> kailangan installment. best offer na naitulong sa amin was BPI - pero di pwedeng direct... our contact was able to get us the next unit available, di na kami pumila.

Regular Fortuner, Hilux Conquest, Vios, Innova, Wigo, Rush, Avanza/Veloz, Yaris Cross (including the Hybrid) - pwede daw na cash

Corolla Altis Hybrid - almost impossible to buy daw, parang April/May pa last shipment nila

i wonder,
is the kicks e-power available?
mas mura pah...

[ice15]

i wonder,
is the kicks e-power available?
mas mura pah...

my personal theory on why Toyota PH has a "oversupply" of Yaris Cross Hybrid - nagulat sila sa pagbaba ng price ng Kicks...

[111prez]

same kaya ang problema sa sealion? ... EV owner reveals how BYD compares to Tesla on 1,8km road trip

[boybi]

same kaya ang problema sa sealion? ... EV owner reveals how BYD compares to Tesla on 1,8��km road trip

Sealion is not pure EV. Part ICE and part EV sya.

[H1Tman]

basically lack of charging infrastructure ang problema niya.

[dr. d]

Corolla Altis Hybrid - almost impossible to buy daw, parang April/May pa last shipment nila

a couple of weeks ago,
a local bayan seller had been advertising for sale for many weeks already, two or three altis hybrids.
pues, biglang nawala lahat ang ads nila last week.

[anonemus]

From BYD Global City:

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[anonemus]

Sharing here an FB post from an owner:
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BYD Sealion 6 Review: A Journey Across 2,000 Kilometers

After clocking 2,000 kilometers behind the wheel of the BYD Sealion 6, I’m ready to share my in-depth thoughts on this impressive vehicle. From a long drive to Pagudpud, returning to Quezon City, and another trip to Batangas, the Sealion 6 has been put to the test in a variety of conditions.

Pros:

Impressive Fuel Efficiency: The Sealion 6 delivers on its promise of remarkable fuel efficiency, effortlessly achieving the advertised 1,100 km range with a mix of highway and city driving. On my highway-heavy route, the car consistently hit this benchmark without breaking a sweat.

Capacity for Heavy Loads: This car is built for family trips. On my Batangas trip, the Sealion 6 handled a hefty load of nearly 500 kg, with five passengers and luggage. Despite the load, the interior remained spacious and comfortable, proving this vehicle is ideal for a family of five.

Advanced Safety and Technology: The Sealion 6’s safety and technology features are reliable and efficient. On the SCTEX and TPLEX, I utilized the ADAS for 85-90% of the drive, which operated seamlessly throughout the journey.

Game-Changing BYD App: The BYD app has revolutionized my driving experience. I no longer carry keys or even the NFC card—the app is that dependable. Activation was a breeze, taking less than a week with my dealer.

Superior NVH Levels: The NVH (Noise, Vibration, and Harshness) control in this vehicle surpasses that of my Land Cruiser 200, making for a noticeably quieter and smoother ride.

Instant Torque: The Sealion 6’s instant torque delivers a driving experience reminiscent of my diesel Macan, particularly during quick overtakes on provincial roads. While it excels in one or two-car overtakes, it’s a different story when overtaking three or more vehicles.

City Comfort: The Sealion 6 handles city potholes and road imperfections with ease, contributing to a comfortable urban driving experience.

Cons:

Suspension Play at High Speeds: At speeds over 80 km/h, the suspension can exhibit some play or bounce when encountering road imperfections. This could catch new drivers off guard, especially on uneven surfaces.

Assisted Driving Notifications: The assisted driving system could benefit from an audible notification when it’s activated or deactivated, particularly in adverse weather conditions or on roads with interrupted lane markings. I’ve experienced moments of surprise when the system disengaged during heavy rain or on provincial roads.

Battery Management on Inclines: I recommend setting the battery level to 40 or even 50% before tackling hilly climbs. The Sealion 6 is capable on steep roads, but the engine noticeably strains when the battery is below 20%, as it struggles to charge and drive simultaneously on inclines of around 7 to 8 degrees.

For Enthusiasts, Wait for the Premium Model: If you’re seeking a more spirited driving experience, it might be worth waiting for the premium model with higher horsepower and torque. While its arrival in the Philippines isn’t confirmed, I’m hoping it does—if so, I might just swap mine for it.

Final Thoughts: The BYD Sealion 6 offers a balanced blend of efficiency, space, and technology, making it a strong contender for family-oriented drivers. While there are a few areas where it could improve, the overall experience has been highly satisfying.
This is by no means an advertised review. I’ve paid for my car fully without any discount.

Sealion 6 – Agent 001

[Verbl Kint]

Interesting review considering the 2k mileage and the other cars he compared it to.

[I'm surprised the BYD app already works, I was told this wouldn't be available locally until September.]

The "Premium" version he talks about is the AWD model, which has less range but far more power (adds a turbo + rear motor). I'm expecting that to be in or around 1.7M pesos (price difference in Australia for the FWD vs AWD is AU$4,000 which is a shade over 150k pesos). If a buyer's budget is above 1.6M and is keen for a more spirited drive, then the AWD one is probably worth waiting for (0-100 kph in under 6 secs).

Other than the powertrain, the only other differences between the base and the premium is a heads-up-display; same features, same ADAS, same wheels, same everything. Personally, I think AWD is worth the extra coin.

[111prez]

interesting comparo (though from Australia) ...

[anonemus]

Rather than BYD vs Toyota, it's BYD X Toyota.

Is BYD really better than Toyota? Breakthrough Chinese tech to power the all-new RAV4 Hybrid and Corolla hatch to over 1km driving range: Reports - Car News | CarsGuide

[anonemus]

Wow. Surprised that at this price point it has heated and cooled seats!

https://www.autoindustriya.com/featu...hype-real.html

[111prez]

ano kaya ang suspension at underchassis nito?

[LOLZ]

Rather than BYD vs Toyota, it's BYD X Toyota.

Is BYD really better than Toyota? Breakthrough Chinese tech to power the all-new RAV4 Hybrid and Corolla hatch to over 1���km driving range: Reports - Car News | CarsGuide

I wonder if its the cost/scale that is driving the adoption of byd tech. The RAV4 AWD PHEV is rated 75km WLTP EV-only range which is not that far off from BYD Sealion 6 in a similar drivetrain/Battery configuration (AWD:81km FWD:92km under the WLTP-Based ADR81/02) but they seem to be unable to produce the variant in enough quantities to support introduction to new markets.