BYD Sealion 6 DM-i

[ice15]

You can now reserve a BYD Sealion 6 DM-i ahead of its PH launch on July 25 | TopGear PH

The Sealion 6 is essentially a plug-in hybrid, but unlike typical PHEVs, the Super DM-i technology here propels the vehicle using the electric motor instead of the combustion engine. The ‘Blade Battery’ provides all-electric range of up to 100km depending on driving conditions, and if it begins to run out of juice on the road, the engine kicks in as a range extender to recharge the battery and stretch the range up to 1,000km.

[H1Tman]

^Looks great at its price. So plug-in siya, no gasoline option.

[111prez]

It has an ICE engine, albeit it works as a generator only ... daw

EV range is only 100km. Very limited. Not practical. But you can plug it to recharge.

but hybrid range is 1,100km. You have to gas up and make sure the tank is filled.

But it is not similar to the Nissan e-Power tech.

Or is it???? Kopya na naman?

[H1Tman]

I think the difference from the other hybrids is that the electric motor is the primary mover, then the ICE runs, and charges the electric motor after 100 kms. But you can choose to plug-in and keep using the electric motor midway.

[dr. d]

I think the difference from the other hybrids is that the electric motor is the primary mover, then the ICE runs, and charges the electric motor after 100 kms. But you can choose to plug-in and keep using the electric motor midway.

it would appear, it's just like the kicks e power, except for the "added convenience" of the plug-in recharge capacity.
personally, i have to see just how much that electric plug-in recharge will cost the meralco bill, vis a vis gasoline to do the same.
offhand, i don't think i will bother with plugging in the vehicle for a measely 100 km, and just let the gas engine do the recharging painlessly for me for a 1000 km range with full tank.

that is, if i had one.
at 1.5M++... e-power na lang siguro...

[JohnM]

The futuristic rotating display scares me. That screen controls everything including the AC.

[Yatta]

Bottomline though, Autoindustriya is right, it will "shake" the market.

I really hate though that I got to drill down the menu just to adjust the AC. Peeve ko sa Mazda 2 namin yung infotainment dial when I want to change radio stations. Ang daming ikot at pindot.

[JohnM]

I really hate though that I got to drill down the menu just to adjust the AC. Peeve ko sa Mazda 2 namin yung infotainment dial when I want to change radio stations. Ang daming ikot at pindot.

OT: You can change radio stations using the previous and next buttons on the steering wheel.

[anonemus]

It has an ICE engine, albeit it works as a generator only ... daw

EV range is only 100km. Very limited. Not practical. But you can plug it to recharge.

but hybrid range is 1,100km. You have to gas up and make sure the tank is filled.

But it is not similar to the Nissan e-Power tech.

Or is it???? Kopya na naman?

I think this Sealion 6 (SL6) has the option to use ICE, EV or combo-- unlike Nissan e-power.

I'm still trying to find info if ICE can fully charge the battery without needing to plug-in, like the e-power. It will do regen braking, but this is not enough to fully charge it.

Asking because even in Australia, condo owners without access to charging in their condo parking makes this a deal breaker. I suspect it will be the same here in Metro Manila.

[anonemus]

Bottomline though, Autoindustriya is right, it will "shake" the market.

I really hate though that I got to drill down the menu just to adjust the AC. Peeve ko sa Mazda 2 namin yung infotainment dial when I want to change radio stations. Ang daming ikot at pindot.

Its the DM-i tech (BYD's superior PHEV that Toyota is rumored to be planning to adopt) that will shake the global market, especially since there is a slowdown in the uptake of EV.

This article explains it well: Why BYD is a nightmare for Toyota, Tesla, Hyundai and Ford as the BYD Shark plug-in hybrid ute and BYD Seal electric car spearhead its sales grow | Opinion - Car News | CarsGuide

[Motortrend]

So, a PHEV is an EV with a genset in the trunk?

[Yatta]

So, a PHEV is an EV with a genset in the trunk?

The Cherry Tiggo 7 Pro is a PHEV with a full-turbocharged engine + electric motor.

[LOLZ]

So, a PHEV is an EV with a genset in the trunk?

It depends on how they implemented the ICE part of things. I think Nissan's E-power (albeit a hybrid) acts like that but Toyota's, BYD's, and Mitsubishi's Hybrid/PHEV implementation can switch between EV, Series(genset-style usage for the ICE) and Parallel Hybrid(ICE+Electric motor Propulsion) modes.

[anonemus]

So, a PHEV is an EV with a genset in the trunk?

ICE -- gas/diesel engine

EV -- purely electric

Hybrid -- combo of ICE+battery. No need to plug-in as the ICE recharges the battery, like Nissan Kicks .

PHEV -- Plug-in Hybrid EV. To primarily recharge the battery, will need to plug into an electric outlet.

BYD SL6 is claiming to have a fuel economy of 90 km/l running on combo of ICE+battery.

What's also unique about this BYD SL6 is you can use it's battery to power your appliances and potentially house since there's a plug provided to power out. Tesla still refuses to do this with their EVs while Ford allows it with their electric F150 Lightning.

So the SL6 can be used to power your gadgets and appliances during emergencies.

[Motortrend]

Thanks for clarifying.

The Top Gear article is confusing as it said this:

"The Sealion 6 is essentially a plug-in hybrid, but unlike typical PHEVs, the Super DM-i technology here propels the vehicle using the electric motor instead of the combustion engine. The ‘Blade Battery’ provides all-electric range of up to 100km depending on driving conditions, and if it begins to run out of juice on the road, the engine kicks in as a range extender to recharge the battery and stretch the range up to 1,000km."

So, was thinking, what's so earth "shaking" about that.

[ale828]

Nissan Kicks is a Series Hybrid. its wheels are being driven by an electric motor, the gasoline engine does not drive the wheels, it gives power to the battery that runs the electric Motor which drives the wheels.

Toyota's Hybrid is a Parallel hybrid. The gasoline engine is connected to the drive train which is also connected to an electric motor. So both the Gasoline engine and the Electric Motor can drive the wheels. It can run on purely gasoline engine or both gas engine and EV motor for maximum torque and acceleration.

in both types of hybrids you can go full EV mode (gas engine not running) but only up to a low speed (15-20 mph threshold speed for the prius, not sure of the others) and only if the battery has enough juice. Once the battery percentage goes low then the gas engine kicks in to provide charge even if you are running in speed below the threshold. The battery on these hybrids are also quite small and can't be charged by a wall charger.

A PHEV on the other hand can go both pure EV without the gas engine kicking in or Go pure Gas Engine for maximum range.
The PHEV also has a way bigger battery than your regular hybrids plus you can charge it externally with a wall charger.
Not sure thou if the battery of the PHEV can be recharged by the gas engine when it is running or if it will just use the regenerative properties of the PHEV to recharge its batteries.

Regenerative braking is when electric power is captured by braking or slowing down of the car. its use to add range to EV, PHEV and Hybrid cars

[Yatta]

Thanks for clarifying.

The Top Gear article is confusing as it said this:

"The Sealion 6 is essentially a plug-in hybrid, but unlike typical PHEVs, the Super DM-i technology here propels the vehicle using the electric motor instead of the combustion engine. The ‘Blade Battery’ provides all-electric range of up to 100km depending on driving conditions, and if it begins to run out of juice on the road, the engine kicks in as a range extender to recharge the battery and stretch the range up to 1,000km."

So, was thinking, what's so earth "shaking" about that.

Its the price.

[Walter]

EV range is only 100km. Very limited. Not practical. But you can plug it to recharge.
But it is not similar to the Nissan e-Power tech. Or is it???? Kopya na naman?

100 km battery range is more than enough for most people ...

Copyright infringement is what chinese companies are good at ... BYD SeaLion is a copycat or a Porsche Cayenne ...

[Walter]

PHEV -- Plug-in Hybrid EV. To primarily recharge the battery, will need to plug into an electric outlet.

PHEVs don't necessarily NEED to be plugged to charged ... they can function without ever having to plug-in ...

[carxynogen]

Panis ang Mitsubishi Outlander sa pricing nito.
I don't see any Outlander PHEV in the road.