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    #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka View Post




    byd seal5 dmi. that coolant tank is the same setup like in the fords. plastic coolant lines in those fords the plastic becomes brittle and break, so coolant leaks and car overheats

    no such plastic parts in the coolant path in the honda and suzuki that i currently own
    and its right above an electric motor....

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    Quote Originally Posted by viper888 View Post
    and its right above an electric motor....


    motor probably waterproof but here's what happens all the time w/ ecosport/fiesta maybe other models as well. the coolant line cracks there and the tank yellows AF from being exposed to full coolant temps i still prefer the old style radiator caps, the expansion tank doesn't get as hot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka View Post


    motor probably waterproof but here's what happens all the time w/ ecosport/fiesta maybe other models as well. the coolant line cracks there and the tank yellows AF from being exposed to full coolant temps i still prefer the old style radiator caps, the expansion tank doesn't get as hot
    Sa Everest/Ranger parang hindi naman issue yan afaik. Yung EGR pa na nalulusaw ang plastic sa mga manual transmission na model. Sa Avanza may nabibili na aluminum alloy na pamalit na thermostat housing. Hopefully may ganyang ding aftermarket hehe

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    #64
    I think matagal nang gumagamit ang manufacturers ng plastic/rubber sa cooling system ng cars.

    I remember yung first car ko (Box Type) plastic na yung mga links and coolant reservior.

    Yung mga taxi nga namin noon (E90) yung top and bottom parts of the radiator were already hard plastic, kaya kapag nag leak, palit na agad (di na pwede and repair)

    Sinilip ko nga City ko kanina... plastic na din.

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    #65
    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    Sinilip ko nga City ko kanina... plastic na din.
    so i went looking under the hoods of my city hatch and jimny. other than the plastic upper/lower of radiators, no other plastic parts in the coolant path. that means no plastic thermostat housings, no plastic coolant hoses or attachments

    sa ford maraming plastic plastic clutch pedal. plastic clutch master and hoses. plastic valve cover w/ integrated PCV i.e. can't change pcv separately plastic oils pans and timing cover (one time use). soon they'll have plastic engine block and pistons

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka View Post
    so i went looking under the hoods of my city hatch and jimny. other than the plastic upper/lower of radiators, no other plastic parts in the coolant path. that means no plastic thermostat housings, no plastic coolant hoses or attachments

    sa ford maraming plastic plastic clutch pedal. plastic clutch master and hoses. plastic valve cover w/ integrated PCV i.e. can't change pcv separately plastic oils pans and timing cover (one time use). soon they'll have plastic engine block and pistons
    They're hell-bent on sustainability kasi... even at the expense of a shorter lifespan from their products.

    And it's not because of their abundance of love towards mother nature. Rather, it's a business strategy to reap the benefits from "green" incentives and other government and private funding programs.

    Ford's New Plastic Auto Parts Are Made From Olives - Newsweek

    While, there is some good with finding uses to otherwise, waste materials, I would still rather have these made into parts that are non-critical. Anyway, the frequent failures are a disservice to their customers who has to spend more for parts that didn't really have to break, if only they were made of something more robust.

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    Boy, am I glad I never bought an Ecosport!

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    Heard through the grapevine that the Atto 2 is going to be released next. The most likely date is in August.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    They're hell-bent on sustainability kasi... even at the expense of a shorter lifespan from their products.

    And it's not because of their abundance of love towards mother nature. Rather, it's a business strategy to reap the benefits from "green" incentives and other government and private funding programs.

    Ford's New Plastic Auto Parts Are Made From Olives - Newsweek

    While, there is some good with finding uses to otherwise, waste materials, I would still rather have these made into parts that are non-critical. Anyway, the frequent failures are a disservice to their customers who has to spend more for parts that didn't really have to break, if only they were made of something more robust.
    Naalala ko tuloy yung soy-based wiring.
    Sino naka imbento nito? Eto pala reason for having it being used sa vehicle.
    To get more incentive from using environment friendly alternatives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carxynogen View Post
    Naalala ko tuloy yung soy-based wiring.
    Sino naka imbento nito? Eto pala reason for having it being used sa vehicle.
    To get more incentive from using environment friendly alternatives.
    Mercedes started using soy based wires in the early 1990s

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    soy-based wire insulation.
    1. cheaper than the petroleum-based plastic insulation.
    2. environment-attractive, as it was plant-based.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    soy-based wire insulation.
    1. cheaper than the petroleum-based plastic insulation.
    2. environment-attractive, as it was plant-based.
    Cons, masarap sa mga daga.

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    #73
    Quote Originally Posted by viper888 View Post
    Mercedes started using soy based wires in the early 1990s
    Which resulted in wiring harness issues ...

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    #74
    Quote Originally Posted by carxynogen View Post
    Cons, masarap sa mga daga.
    i am wondering,
    hindi ba nila inisip ito?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i am wondering,
    hindi ba nila inisip ito?
    For someone having experience working with Japanese team, I am sure they already anticipated this.
    Probably during the debate, the monetary aspect of having it bringing the car back to dealer for servicing prevails.
    They probably weighs that the impact is just minimal for having the warranty cost being shouldered to Car Manufacturer itself.
    Than the monetary benefits they can reap for having it complied for the environment friendly materials.

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    #76
    Australian news...

    BYD Atto 3 Rust Issues Down Under — BYD Responds Promptly - CleanTechnica

    So far, these rust issues are few and far between and I expect that they will be addressed as well in Australia as they have been so far in New Zealand.

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    #79
    What I heard is a ₱2.2M SRP -- not sure if this price is for the base or the TOTL version, tho. An SA told me one variant lang daw but another said it will be like the Shark (2 variants).

    The Tang EV is ₱3.3M, btw.
    Last edited by Verbl Kint; September 4th, 2025 at 04:59 PM.

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    Shouldn't the EV model be priced lower due to lesser tax than Hybrid? unless of course its already priced way higher in the first place.
    if true the 2.2M price tag is very good and will undercut most gas fed SUV and even lowered than most mid tier model PPVs.

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