Chevrolet Trailblazer Maintenance...

[RNIQQQ]

Unfortunately, they did not inspect the car! They just based it on the mileage and they already have these items as “mandatory”. Probably they’ll just reduce then items if they still find the original ones still ok or if the customer won’t opt for the replacement. But still, daya di ba, what if the customer is not knowledgeable of what’s mandatory or not.

Warranty will lapse in a few months time. I’ll just have the PMS done outside casa, with the exception of timing belts etc. but I’ll have it inspected anyways.

[mda]

Unfortunately, they did not inspect the car! They just based it on the mileage and they already have these items as “mandatory”. Probably they’ll just reduce then items if they still find the original ones still ok or if the customer won’t opt for the replacement. But still, daya di ba, what if the customer is not knowledgeable of what’s mandatory or not.

Warranty will lapse in a few months time. I’m leaning towards having the PMS done outside, with the exception of timing belts etc. but I’ll have it inspected anyways.

You can just scratch off 8-14 and have it inspected instead of replaced. Check sa manual if you need to replace #7 / drive belt for 50k.

Which dealership is this? Medyo ripoff siya.

[RNIQQQ]

You can just scratch off 8-14 and have it inspected. Check sa manual if you need to replace #7 / drive belt for 50k.

Which dealership is this? Medyo ripoff siya.

Makati (Pasong Tamo ext)

Thanks for the advice!

[mda]

Makati (Pasong Tamo ext)

Thanks for the advice!

If they insist on replacing #8-14 without inspecting the car, lipat ka ng dealership. Again, not sure on #7 (drive belt). Please consult your manual for that one.

Replacing the pulleys is normally done when they are worn, same with the water pump.

Laki ng kinikita nila sa unsuspecting customers. No wonder chevy has a bad rep here. Never kami inalokan ng ganiyan for 'preventive' maintenance for our japanese vehicles...

[minicarph]

Hi everyone, thanks for the reply! HereÂ’s the quotation from casa for my 2014 4x2 2.8L A/T TB, current mileage is 55k km.

IÂ’ll compare this list vs the ownerÂ’s manual but I think, this is way TOO much!

Any recommendation for best shops I can have the job done will be greatly appreciated

Parts & Materials TOTAL PHP52,155

1) Engine Oil - Php4,950
2) Oil Filter - Php1,011
3) Brake Cleaner - Php282
4) Air filter - Php3,360
5) Pollen filter - php2696
6) Engine Coolant - Php2620
7) drive belt - Php1,848
8) Drive belt tens. - Php7500
9) Idler Pulley (small) - Php3,864
10) Idler Pulley (big) - Php 5,040
11) Idler Pulley (lower) - Php2,016
12) Timing Belt - Php5,040
13) Timing Belt Tens. - Php3,528
14) Water Pump Assy. - Php8,400

Shop Supplies - Php 500
Labor - Php 8,280

TOTAL PMS COST: Php 60,935!!!

good thing I didn't get the Z71 over the blue power. timing belt pala and TBZ. always thought halos pareho lang tong dalawa.

[istan]

In the casa, if they wanted to inspect the timing belt and the drive belts, the labor costs alone will be similar to replacing them.

For peace of mind tho, just replace the timing belt and drive belts, idler pulleys etc. Since, pag naputol sila, sira makina.

Replace 7-13
Take a gamble with 14.

But ur call.
Succeeding pms, have it done outside. Basta every 60k kms, do 7-13.

Hold on... Check ur manual, timing belt supposed to be at 80k kms.
Drive belts can be at 60k kms.
If u tell them to inspect, they'll tell u, manipis na, without really inspecting. Of course ninipis vs bago, kasi ginagamit.

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[Gumusut_Amige]

in my case, done doing the all belts and pulleys/pumps at 95k ODO reading (manual says 60k or 3yrs whichever come first).
- all parts were provided by me from Thunder Banawe except for those not available at that time (most listed parts below are much cheaper here though that was 2017). my casa is chevy dagupan under laus group (NO "corkage" fee on all parts brought in)
- recommend to replace both belts together and its accessories to avoid double labor charge
- there's a "SPECIAL TOOL" used by casa to achieve the factory timing setting. strongly suggest to let casa do it for you.
- IIRC, my all belts replacement plus PMS and labor cost was around 40k only which is much lower than your casa quoted amount.
- sa 55k ODO reading ba ang OCI PMS mo? if i were you, i'll do the all belts replacement not together with the usual 10k OCI to "lessen" the total cost.

Hi everyone, thanks for the reply! HereÂ’s the quotation from casa for my 2014 4x2 2.8L A/T TB, current mileage is 55k km.

IÂ’ll compare this list vs the ownerÂ’s manual but I think, this is way TOO much!

Any recommendation for best shops I can have the job done will be greatly appreciated

Parts & Materials TOTAL PHP52,155

1) Engine Oil - Php4,950
2) Oil Filter - Php1,011
3) Brake Cleaner - Php282
4) Air filter - Php3,360
5) Pollen filter - php2696
6) Engine Coolant - Php2620
7) drive belt - Php1,848
8) Drive belt tens. - Php7500
9) Idler Pulley (small) - Php3,864
10) Idler Pulley (big) - Php 5,040
11) Idler Pulley (lower) - Php2,016
12) Timing Belt - Php5,040
13) Timing Belt Tens. - Php3,528
14) Water Pump Assy. - Php8,400

Shop Supplies - Php 500
Labor - Php 8,280

TOTAL PMS COST: Php 60,935!!!

[mda]

Every 3 years ang pulleys and pump??? Well played, Chevy. Either they know they have inferior products or they are really hurting for cash...

[Gumusut_Amige]

Every 3 years ang pulleys and pump??? Well played, Chevy. Either they know they have inferior products or they are really hurting for cash...

I know where you're coming from coz before disposing my 12 yrs old toyota , only the drive belt and pump were replaced and my 8 yrs old honda's drive belt and accessories are still intact and good running condition.
It'll be included on my checklist for sure on my next car purchase if ever i'll go with the golden butterfly logo again.

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[RNIQQQ]

I know where you're coming from coz before disposing my 12 yrs old toyota , only the drive belt and pump were replaced and my 8 yrs old honda's drive belt and accessories are still intact and good running condition.
It'll be included on my checklist for sure on my next car purchase if ever i'll go with the golden butterfly logo again.

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Thank you so much guys for sharing your thoughts here; very helpful in coming up with a sound decision wrt the “pms” my car should have this round. I’m leaning towards delaying the change belts as per owner’s manual to 60k km. I’ll have another quotation from another dealer and non-casa shop just so I have comparison, I would know where to bring the major ones. Cheers!

[shadyanderson09]

I agree with most of the things that has been discussed here about how lousy Chevy is when it comes to fitting a timing belt instead of a chain.

But contrary to most belief, timing chain is also not a full proof concept, not to mention that it cost x4 times to replace too. Amen that it's cheaper to implement compared to a chain, but cost way less too, it's a give or take when it comes to PMS. So are you willing to wait and pay it one time every, let's say, 200K or do it on x4 times with partial money? The overall expenses will almost be the same. It's also quieter.

One thing that Chevy is going extreme over in their owner manual is their timing belt replacement schedule, I believe it should be stretched more than than, of course their greed as any other manufacturer, but also hard to tell or take the risk in an Interference engine.

The real question that we need to ask is whether this is an Interference or a Non-Interference engine, this is to begin with. An Interference Engine will get the damage, whether a chain or a belt. In fact a Chain is more disastrous when it breaks.

So don't feel so comfortable when it comes to Chains. A chain makes far more damage when it breaks/stretches compared to a belt, something I wouldn't wish for anybody to experience, you will probably kiss your ENTIRE engine goodbye when it happens.

They require Pulleys and Tensioners too and they heavily rely over Oil Pressure. So if your Oil Pressure is below the required threshold, your Tensioners will FAIL and the timing will Off-Set, you don't need a PHD to know what's gonna follow. One thing that they won't require changing when doing your PMS is your Water Pump. They are noisier as well inside an engine bay, and never forgive a delay in changing your engine oil .

If you wanna go FULL PROOF then it would be a Timing Gears (Think of your transmission), something that was used in car's engines in the old days but ceased due to prohibitive cost.

Don't forget that this is a 300 to 400K lower price SUV than a Fortuner, that would make me do PMS for this SUV for over 20Years for free. Bigger, tougher, spacier, better engine specs, Wading Depth, Pulling Power, HP/Torque.... Yeah, Toyota needs to chill a little bit.

What about Hondas? The guzzlers? I had a CRV that was sipping gas like there is no tomorrow, that small thing was consuming more gas than my V8 Land Cruiser (Even a LC is a guzzler by default). A 2L engine! Not to mention the rack and pinion, suspensions and transmission issue in less than 6years of ownership. Now what?

[Gumusut_Amige]

Done with my 115k pms outside casa. All parts from thunder binondo except the bendix brake pad.
- air filter change out (diy)
- aircon fiter change out (diy)
- rear wheel brake pad replacement (using bendix)
- front wheel brake inspection/ cleaning
- change oil 6 liters dexos 2
- oil filter change out
- labor cost = 900 pesos only
Next pms will be the all fluid changeout.

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[allan302000]

Done with my 115k pms outside casa. All parts from thunder binondo except the bendix brake pad.
- air filter change out (diy)
- aircon fiter change out (diy)
- rear wheel brake pad replacement (using bendix)
- front wheel brake inspection/ cleaning
- change oil 6 liters dexos 2
- oil filter change out
- labor cost = 900 pesos only
Next pms will be the all fluid changeout.

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Where did you get the bendix brake pad and how much?


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[Gumusut_Amige]

Where did you get the bendix brake pad and how much?


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From my suking auto supply but can't recall how much. The figure that pops out my head is 1.8k pesos?
But definitely, quality build is much better vs the oem pad.

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[kiwileader88]

Hello,

Mayroon na bang nagpalit ng "Air Cleaner Outlet Duct" Part Number # 52086620
Tinawagan ko ang Thunder pero wala at sabi ay casa lang daw.
Maraming salamat sa mga sasagot..

[StockEngine]

Hello,

Mayroon na bang nagpalit ng "Air Cleaner Outlet Duct" Part Number # 52086620
Tinawagan ko ang Thunder pero wala at sabi ay casa lang daw.
Maraming salamat sa mga sasagot..

butas bro?

[kiwileader88]

butas bro?

Yes may crack.

[dr. d]

Hello,

Mayroon na bang nagpalit ng "Air Cleaner Outlet Duct" Part Number # 52086620
Tinawagan ko ang Thunder pero wala at sabi ay casa lang daw.
Maraming salamat sa mga sasagot..

is it something that can be effectively repaired using duct tape, glue, or similar materials?

[kiwileader88]

is it something that can be effectively repaired using duct tape, glue, or similar materials?

Thank you sa advice.
Im just wondering kung may nagpalit na ditto. And kung scan pwedeng mag order aside from casa.
Maraming Salamat.

[shadyanderson09]

Front bushings have been replaced, both wheels. P350 for the bushings from Thunder Banawe, and P700 labor cost at Wheelers Suspension House Banawe.

It rides like new again. Just a last advise, don't buy the OEM hard plastic part for the bushings, get the soft rubber instead as per Wheelers' shop advise and I concur with that. The hard plastic part fails miserably in a very short period of time, hence the so many complaints about the TB front bushings. It's just a bad OEM part.