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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    Saw that video Bro a year ago and I know about that approach since I was a kid due to lots of car related discussions with my father, he is an Aviation Engineer.

    Even though it's adopted now by almost all Manufacturers, since the EPA is always over their behinds, not all cars will consume oil and a car that will consume oil with one driver may not consume oil with another driver.

    Anybody would hit a 100Kph/150Kph mate, but how each driver achieves it differs completely. Some drivers know what each engine likes and how to rev it properly and get it's best performance without blowing a gasket or stressing the hell out of any engine, aka toasting all seals and gasket in a very short period of time, while other drivers may rev an engine tits off without any real increase in acceleration at all and create all kind of future problems.

    I can't tell you how many times I wanted to scream "PLEASE SHIFT" beside a cab driver with a Manual Gear-box, and how many times I wanted to shout "You have shifted too early".

    An automatic gear-box is no different and share lots of aspects with a manual gear box, although they do the same function with different approaches.

    However mate, bad seals and gaskets still exists, but clearance would be the same on all engines of the same model.

    Another issue that's far away from engine clearance problem, and that will increase engine oil consumption, that John Cadogan didn't mention about, is Turbo-Charged Engines.

    Montero Sport SUA, for example, is by far a Turbo-Charged problem and it's not related at all to the ECU/Pedals or Pedals misapplication like what the TV tried to explain before when the problem did arise. I was pulling in my hair watching TV and news as well as YouTube during that time!

    Turbos as you already know Bro, get it's lubrication from the engine oil, if the oil is not changed regularly/dirty/contaminated, EGR and we all know what that means, or using the wrong oil and viscosity, this will shoot it big time, bearings and turbine as well as seals. Increasing oil-tight clearance and feeding oil to the engine combustion chambers. Diesel is not like gasoline engine, Diesel will feed on Anything including Oil and Propane, anything a diesel engine will inhale will increase RMPs bypassing your throttle input as well as your ECU altogether. And in some instance, this is called a Diesel Run-Away. Guys, Turbo-Charged Diesel Engine is not something to be messed up with, for anybody reading these comments, please, either service your vehicle properly and on time and follow best practice or DON'T buy a a Turbo-Charged Diesel, it's a damn BOMB in the wrong hands!

    Shocking your Turbo Charger is another bad instance also as you may know, I have seen guys revving the tits off of their turbo charged engines then right away switch off their cars, cutting off the oil supply and lubrication for their turbos not to mention that the oil also acts as a cooler for their turbos. Either they have to idle for a minute or 2 before they switch off their vehicle or install a turbo timer because what they are doing is a turbo suicide, then they blame it in the end on the car and manufacturers, some real weirdos.

    That's why the problem is by far bigger than just clearance man. Is the car new or used? Service History? Do you know the owner and the way he drives? Have you followed best practices for operating a vehicle? Have you followed best practices for operating that Specific vehicle? And the list will go on and on before we can even judge. If it is clearance, then why do some drivers report the oil consumption while others say it's some bogus crap?!

    But based on my real world experience, this SUV doesn't sip a drop of oil at all Bro. I'm 37 years old and started to practice driving since I was 4.

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    28 oil issues here. imagine the undocumented ones(multiply by 10). new 5w40 oil caps?

    Holden Colorado RG.II (213-218) Reviews (page 8) - ProductReview.com.au


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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    28 oil issues here. imagine the undocumented ones(multiply by 10). new 5w40 oil caps?

    Holden Colorado RG.II (2�13-2�18) Reviews (page 8) - ProductReview.com.au


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    Aware of these stuff too mate, the longer dipstick and the oil cap issue. Not really sure about the Australian market, but we have the same SUV and it's neither manufactured in the Ph or Aus, Thailand is the way same as the Montero and the Fortuner. We have even tougher terrains and mountains in the Ph, plus the high temperature and magnets that would hold your car to the ground and make you feel that you are the one pulling the car instead of the engine, and how stressful is that over your engine and transmission.

    If it's the wrong oil used, and the 5W-40 is the correct one hence changing the oil cap, then why it's not global and only in Aus? Do I have to mention again mate that I do have the same SUV? Vibration, shakes, seals, oil caps, dipstick, oil consumption. All these are propaganda if you were to ask me with hidden agendas.

    I have heard more than that over decades about very reliable cars and suvs, just for the sake of hate, hidden agendas, emblem fanboys, paid propaganda, wrong driving and poor maintenance and the like. Rule of thumb is diving by the experience yourself to be able to judge.

    Same as what Mitsu tried to do, so instead of screaming at their clients' faces saying you don't know how to properly maintain a vehicle, they, instead, preferred to bite over the bullet and left the door neither open nor closed and released the new montero sport with brake override (Can't recreate the issue, heh? Even if you tried a 100,000 times.).

    But hell no Bro, that was way TOO decent compared to Shityota who bluntly stood and arrogantly blamed a damn floor mats instead of apologizing on air and say we are sorry and compensate the families of the toasted drivers who got f$cked in the *ss in a Petrol engine runaway hitting 60 to 100Mph without any driver input, people were shitting their pants calling 911 inside a Camry or a Lexus asking them what should they say when they meet their LORD! And yes, that wasn't a turbo or a Diesel, it was an ECU and Throttle Body defect and poorly fabricated buckets of sh$t! Yet we still praise them?!

    Yet, the world stood on one feet mate when it was Mitsu, a Diesel Turbo charged and poorly maintained vehicles that did actually cause the SUA, and it wasn't 60 to 100Mph runaway? Lexus and Camry? Good job Mitsu in taking responsibility trying to solve the issue and not blaming it on damn passenger's headrest or the driver's eyebrows!

    Spare yourself mate from these Internet brainwashing stuff.

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    done changing my "short" dipstick and oil cap 5-w30 yesterday.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumusut_Amige View Post
    done changing my "short" dipstick and oil cap 5-w30 yesterday.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumusut_Amige View Post

    sorry of the blurry pix.
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    purchased or part of a tsb?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    purchased or part of a tsb?

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    part of chev "silent recall" for the affected tbz units.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumusut_Amige View Post
    part of chev "silent recall" for the affected tbz units.

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    May I know what model is affected? My good neighbor here has a trailblazer and he may not be aware of it.

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    ^^^ mine is tbz 2014 model. let him check with casa to confirm.

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    they are already expecting the oil consumption...

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    Just to verify some stuff mates, so we can give credit where credit is due as well as treat the case fairly.

    I have the same dipstick that you have in the picture bro, the one of the left side, the shorter one. Was it changed for the one on the right side, the longer one?

    1- If the dipstick was shorter and it required a change, does that mean you were over filling your engine with oil?

    2- If, supposedly, we are over filling our engine with oil, then why on earth when checking with that same dipstick there is no oil decrease? Hitting always the same mark as full, never went down?

    3- Picture for the oil cap is blurred mate, it was changed for what? From 5W-30 to 5W-40?

    Monitor it man with the longer dipstick, the one that the CASA recommended, and check your marks so you can monitor if it burns oil. That's the only way you can make sure.

    Thanks for the feedback bros.

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    evidently, both dipstick are of the same full level mark (photo doesn't show its laid total length ) .

    consequently, the big difference is their low level mark (approximately 12mm).
    thus we are not overfilling it but it's giving me the wrong oil low level mark from the very start i got my unit.

    the oil cap was replaced from 5-w30 to 5-w40.

    usually after a long and spirited drive, my oil level is showing lower level and that's the time i top up (but not the critical low level).👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumusut_Amige View Post
    evidently, both dipstick are of the same full level mark (photo doesn't show its laid total length ) .

    consequently, the big difference is their low level mark (approximately 12mm).
    thus we are not overfilling it but it's giving me the wrong oil low level mark from the very start i got my unit.

    the oil cap was replaced from 5-w30 to 5-w40.

    usually after a long and spirited drive, my oil level is showing lower level and that's the time i top up (but not the critical low level).��

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    Got it mate, so the difference is only in the low level mark, full mark is the same and that's where normal level should goes and monitor it from there.

    The weird thing is, I have tried my best to spot that oil consumption issue, been 2 years now, no single attempt was successful. Baguio, Tagaytay, SLEX, NLEX, TPLEX and far more attempts. 3,700 to 4000RMPs with no mercy, pedal to the metal, in different weather, slippery, rains, typhoons and insane hot temperature during the year.

    No single attempt showed even one drop decrease been over 2 years now. I check my oil level almost everyday in different occasions and places. Leveled surfaces with hot, warm, cold engine and it's always on Full Mark.

    Something that caught my attention heavily on it, since all my former Fortuners and Monteros was oil burners, especially my Fortuners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadyanderson09 View Post
    Got it mate, so the difference is only in the low level mark, full mark is the same and that's where normal level should goes and monitor it from there.

    The weird thing is, I have tried my best to spot that oil consumption issue, been 2 years now, no single attempt was successful. Baguio, Tagaytay, SLEX, NLEX, TPLEX and far more attempts. 3,700 to 4000RMPs with no mercy, pedal to the metal, in different weather, slippery, rains, typhoons and insane hot temperature during the year.

    No single attempt showed even one drop decrease been over 2 years now. I check my oil level almost everyday in different occasions and places. Leveled surfaces with hot, warm, cold engine and it's always on Full Mark.

    Something that caught my attention heavily on it, since all my former Fortuners and Monteros was oil burners, especially my Fortuners.
    am assuming your tbz model is 2016. were you putting the dexos 2 5-w40 oil grade?
    most of the time i'm using the less viscous 5-w30 dexos2 oil grade prior to my last pms.

    currently, no level change is noted after logging almost 2k kms this time with the 5-w40 dexos2 oil grade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumusut_Amige View Post
    am assuming your tbz model is 2016. were you putting the dexos 2 5-w40 oil grade?
    most of the time i'm using the less viscous 5-w30 dexos2 oil grade prior to my last pms.

    currently, no level change is noted after logging almost 2k kms this time with the 5-w40 dexos2 oil grade.

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    Not at all bro. Mine is a 2014 LTZ. Using Dexos2 5W-30, that's what it has on the oil cap too and owner manual.

    Second owner, not the first one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadyanderson09 View Post
    Not at all bro. Mine is a 2014 LTZ. Using Dexos2 5W-30, that's what it has on the oil cap too and owner manual.

    Second owner, not the first one.
    so i guess we have the same engine batch. there's a high probability that yours is also affected with the short dipstick issue.
    what's your ODO reading now?

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    Thanks for all the information shared in this thread. Very useful. My TB is nearing 5years old but only about 5k in odo reading. Not keen on bringing it to casa. This unit indeed gulps engine oil alot despite using 5w-30 dexos2 speced oil. I am glad to know this is not an extra ordinary occurence in this specific vehicle.

    Is there any highly rated service center in makati or mandaluyong that specializes in Trailblazers? Any refferal would be highly apperciated. Thanks to all


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    Quote Originally Posted by vgsison View Post
    Thanks for all the information shared in this thread. Very useful. My TB is nearing 5years old but only about 5k in odo reading. Not keen on bringing it to casa. This unit indeed gulps engine oil alot despite using 5w-30 dexos2 speced oil. I am glad to know this is not an extra ordinary occurence in this specific vehicle.

    Is there any highly rated service center in makati or mandaluyong that specializes in Trailblazers? Any refferal would be highly apperciated. Thanks to all


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    What year and model mate do you have? How many quarts do you top over every 10K or 6Months?

    I do regular PMS in Fronte Banawe, but I'm sure that the guys here can help with better shops. So far so good with fronte.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadyanderson09 View Post
    What year and model mate do you have? How many quarts do you top over every 10K or 6Months?

    I do regular PMS in Fronte Banawe, but I'm sure that the guys here can help with better shops. So far so good with fronte.
    Ours is a TB LT 4x2 2014 AT. My driver used to ask for 1 quart every 3 months. Havent checked personally though.

    If Fronte does a good job then will consider them if no shop is neaerer to my place.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vgsison View Post
    Ours is a TB LT 4x2 2014 AT. My driver used to ask for 1 quart every 3 months. Havent checked personally though.

    If Fronte does a good job then will consider them if no shop is neaerer to my place.


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    1Quart every 3 months is huge mate, I wouldn't leave it without further investigation if I were you, at least for fun.

    If you don't mind my questions, please let us know some information .

    1- How was your Break-In period? If you are the first owner.
    2- What's your driving style? City and Highway and your RPMs sweet spot?
    3- Turbo is in good shape? Bearings, Turbine and Seals?
    4- Any black/blue exhaust smoke while idling? Revving? In what scenarios if ever?
    5- Does your vehicle shift properly or it struggles/shudders when shifting?
    6- Any oil leak somewhere?
    7- Engine temperature? Any sudden surges?
    8- Coolant life and level?
    9- Any Radiator/Fans issue?

    Thanks in advance .

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