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    #2021
    Quote Originally Posted by johnqpublic318 View Post
    I'm not making an argument here but I will stand by my opinion that bigbigcar.com's 0 to 100kph test at 14.9 sec is unreliable.
    Wow. Certainly been quite a storm since I looked in here.

    I did a lot of double and triple checking online after we did our test. Nobody else has actually timed an automatic 1.8 Cruze online.

    I did the 60-100 portion numerous times over different roads to double-check our 14.9 second time. It was consistent. The Cruze went from 0-60 km/h in 6.4 seconds (gearbox doesn't like breaking traction, shifts were very slow) and from 60-100 km/h in 8.5 seconds. Manually shifted, auto-shifted, whatever, it never went from 60-100 faster than 8.5 seconds (consistently 8.5 - 8.8).

    This is with the automatic, driver only, AC off and 3/4ths a tank of gas.

    You can probably subtract about 1 second or so from that time because the engine was so fresh. Most new engines don't make full power until after 5,000 - 10,000 kilometers. Which would leave us with a 13.9 second time.

    Still slow. The Focus Ghia does it in between 11.8 - 12 seconds.

    The Focus feels like it has more low-down torque than the Cruze, but the Cruze has a better top end (though it sounds strained near redline). I can believe the 138 hp claim.

    The real problem is the gearbox.

    GM delayed the launch of the Cruze to fix issues with the gearbox. The way it shifted, the response, the drivetrain logic. And while it's a nice box for cruising, starting off in 2nd at low throttle inputs and slurring shifts so that they're comfortable, the shifts are incredibly slow.

    There's a nearly 3 second gap between 96 km/h and 100 km/h. (I always test 0-60 mph and 0-100 km/h at the same time). Most of that gap is due to the 2nd-3rd gear shift. Each shift takes about one and a half seconds to complete.

    (Many people don't realize that some publications and manufacturers just copy paste 0-60 mph times and claim them as 0-100 km/h times. They ain't even close, most of the time!)

    Two shifts to 100 km/h... that's 3 seconds, plus the delay as the engine has to catch its breath again between shifts... could easily be responsible for the 4.5 second difference between the Cruze and the Civic.

    Then again... I did note in my review that it wasn't that big a deal for me. I used to drive an Exalta STA... an ungodly slow car... and I like the Cruze because it gives me more luxury and space than the STA ever did, with a better ride, great handling and great build quality, all while giving more passing power than the STA. The only problem is that you really have to work around the unresponsive and indecisive gearbox to access it.

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    Yes, I still want to meet up with some of the Cruze guys to retest... still looking for a proper place to test and waiting for good weather... cold weather and moist roads aren't the best for acceleration testing.

    A Genesis Coupe V6 6AT on a wet road does 100 km/h in 7 seconds (60 mph in 6.4)... Which ain't bad... just half a second slower than the MT... in the dry. (V6 MT is around 5.9 to 60 mph with most mags. C&D gets 5.5, but they use SAE corrections and a 1-foot rollout, which removes 0.2 - 0.5 seconds from the total... I don't believe in 1-foot rollouts... it's cheating. )
    Last edited by niky; November 2nd, 2010 at 08:22 PM.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #2022
    Quote Originally Posted by marlboro2000 View Post
    Bakit naman ako ma-libel if it will be backed-up by your claims sir? I am just trying to help kasi kung sa akin nangyari yan baka matagal ko ng inexpose yan.
    Trust me bro. I'm a lawyer. Will send them demand letter tomorrow and will let you know how they will respond.

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    #2023
    Quote Originally Posted by resident_evil View Post
    Trust me bro. I'm a lawyer. Will send them demand letter tomorrow and will let you know how they will respond.
    lawyer ka pala bro...so you know the in and out of the system....

    Goodluck na lang....

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    #2024
    Very nice.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J_5em72G40"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J_5em72G40[/ame]

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    #2025
    Manual yung white ah.

    BTW, ano kayang specs nung Cruze T ?

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    #2026
    hey guys are you guys still up for an EB? How's november 5 sound? :D

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    #2027
    Quote Originally Posted by eeeyaaan View Post
    hey guys are you guys still up for an EB? How's november 5 sound? :D
    sounds good but some of our fellow cruzers may pasok pa. Why not Saturday morning or even afternoon? Shell Julio Vargas in front of chevy pasig para neutral sa north and south guys..

    What do you think guys? =)

    Anymore suggestions?

    EB na..



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    #2028
    Quote Originally Posted by resident_evil View Post
    Trust me bro. I'm a lawyer. Will send them demand letter tomorrow and will let you know how they will respond.

    Mahaba pala ang patience ng mga abogado. Kami kasing mga kanto boys eh isang tingin lang bakbakan na.

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    #2029
    ON EB:

    Lapit lang ako dyan sa shell J vargas. Pwede ako during lunch breaks, magdoorbell lang at sirit na kaagad ako doon.

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    #2030
    Nice commercial. Hehe. Kakaaliw

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    #2031
    EB: O sino gusto EB lunch time sa shell julia vargas today? taas ang paa!

    Sir AWALLIT, andyan pa ba GOLD este GOLF umbrella ko? pwede ko daanan lunch break? hehehe

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    #2032
    Quote Originally Posted by marlboro2000 View Post
    Mahaba pala ang patience ng mga abogado. Kami kasing mga kanto boys eh isang tingin lang bakbakan na.
    hahaha. Syempre ayaw ko naman mademanda ka.

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    #2033
    Quote Originally Posted by desert fox View Post
    lawyer ka pala bro...so you know the in and out of the system....

    Goodluck na lang....

    Yes bro. But I want them to be a little more concerned about us Cruze owners. We put our trust in their new car. They should see to it that the trust is maintained.

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    #2034
    Quote Originally Posted by resident_evil View Post
    Yes bro. But I want them to be a little more concerned about us Cruze owners. We put our trust in their new car. They should see to it that the trust is maintained.
    Amen to that bro RE. We have the same dealer so I hope things get ironed out for the sake of chevy owners within the area.

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    #2035
    Quote Originally Posted by CruzeLSMT View Post
    Amen to that bro RE. We have the same dealer so I hope things get ironed out for the sake of chevy owners within the area.
    naku goodluck sa inyong dalawa sa dealer niyo, sana nga may pagbabago.

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    #2036
    EB kailan po medyo malapit din ako marikina lang ako hehehe

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    #2037
    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    The Cruze went from 0-60 km/h in 6.4 seconds and from 60-100 km/h in 8.5 seconds.....
    I'm not sure I got this right. You mean you timed 0-60 Km/h first, and on another run 60-100 Km/h, then added them both? Why not floor the gas pedal from a full stop and clock the speed until 100km/h.....

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    #2038
    Quote Originally Posted by Epats View Post
    I'm not sure I got this right. You mean you timed 0-60 Km/h first, and on another run 60-100 Km/h, then added them both? Why not floor the gas pedal from a full stop and clock the speed until 100km/h.....
    Maybe it has a split timing function like the stopwatches and cellphone stopwatches...

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    #2039
    Quote Originally Posted by AG4 View Post
    Maybe it has a split timing function like the stopwatches and cellphone stopwatches...
    Yah, that would make sense.

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    #2040
    Quote Originally Posted by Epats View Post
    I'm not sure I got this right. You mean you timed 0-60 Km/h first, and on another run 60-100 Km/h, then added them both? Why not floor the gas pedal from a full stop and clock the speed until 100km/h.....
    Guys, remember the performance timings NIKY got was via VBOX and not by stopwatch.

    VBOX can split the timing to smaller segments. Timing 60-100kph can be indicative of how a car would perform in an overtaking maneuver.

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