Work From Home

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tsaka you don't need to be employed by a company to wfh

there are many freelance jobs online

Kung freelncer naman pala eh di gawin nila kung ano gusto niya.

Saka siguro kaya mas gusto din ng iba employed dahil sigurado meron ka makukuha every cut-off sa freelance depende sa sipag at diskarte mo.

We're talking about mga employed ng BPO. Majority kung sa voice sila for me hinde conducive for WFH. Saka mga nasa financial siguro. Hinde ko alam ano security ng system nila pag WFH access yun details.



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[_Cathy_]

WFH will not be there forever.. eventually.. businesses will require employees to go back..

dito sa BGC halos back to normal na din ang foot traffic.. dami na din tao.. dami na din cars kahit anong oras.. puno na din parati parking.. restaurants / coffee shops parati puno.. expats are back.. dami na ulit foreigners everywhere you look..

Yup, sa friends ko lahat RTO na with 3x a week on site requirement. It looks like hybrid na talaga and that'll be the standard (3x). I had job offers with the same set up. Sa office namin since they gave up so many floors already hindi na pwede 5x a week. May mga nag resign because they want full WFH but not everyone has the skills for that, usually mga IT ang pwede sa full WFH pero not everyone's specialization can demand full WFH

alas,
not everyone can productively work from home.

doc, we have doctors na STOPPED na their online consultation. Pinapapunta na kasi sa clinic.

Problema kasi sa WFH not everybody has a house suitable for remote working. Paano yun mga nag bed spacer lang or marami sila sa isang room? Hinde naman lahat meron dedicated home office.

Tapos paano yun mga naka apartment sa pangit na area super init and super ingay pag office hours. Mga kapitbahay Nagsisigawan, busy street...

Yun iba naman kasama pamilya tapos isa lang room, so walang pa din privacy.

Kaya marami nag work sa BPO parang pang tulog na lang yun inuuwiaan nila eh they would rather spend more time sa labas.

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Paulinian friend ko, their home is in the north, her work is in BGC, required na sila to report for work three times a week so she rented a place near work, pero since 4 sila nag share, hindi din conducive for her, kaya pumapasok na lang siya sa office. Can you just imagine kung may factor na pangit pa na lugar? I told her to rent a condo na siya lang or 2 lang sila, nasa P30k din ata rental sa BGC so that's a big chunk off her salary, so I understand why she'd tiis with 3 more people.

and mas masarap sa opis.. mas mabilis internet.. mas malamig aircon.. libe kape.. may team lunches.. and pwede mamasyal sa mall pag breaktime..

yup, that's why pre pandemic I'd still report for work on Fridays kasi that's when we have dinner with my friends and go malling LOL! Saka I need to see my officemates and bosses din, it's hard to build relationships online, iba yung nakakasama mo talaga. Monday talaga WFH ako parati

I have an officemate who was forced to resign kasi nga WFH na nga lagi pa absent. [emoji1751]Although OK naman attendance nya before pandemic. Tapos while other colleagues will try to catch up sa deadline tutal they can work anytime, this office mate would extend the dead line dahil absent.

Sari sari dahilan, kesyo nawala internet, nag brown out, may personal problem, etc. I guess hindi conducive ang WFH setup nya or like you said nahahalo siguro ang home problems during office hours.

Then there are people who works better on WFH setup kasi nga they have more time, imbis na spending hours on commute, they can spend that time to extend work hours and finish tasks. Result is more productive, which may convince their company to allow them to stay WFH.

pre pandemic I had the privilege of WFH na but our company only granted that to officers and HiPo (High performing/potential) employees. You need VP approval, IT approval (to check your connection) and to be filed with HR.

I guess yan ang iniiwasan nila kaya kailangan HIPO din kasi yung mga problematic na nga sa office baka lalo pa ma worsen sa home setup. Sa case naman ng officemate mo, nawala productivity sa office not because he didn't have discipline but because WFH simply wasn't conducive for him.

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Mga developer siguro pwedeng-pwede WFH. Saka kung sa IT ako I'd rather be employed para meron ka makukuha regularly plus helsth benefits pa buong pamilya. Then side line ko na lang yun pag free Lance project based.


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big reason yang security kaya mas prefer nang employers ang RTO.. may mga contracts with clients na kailangan sa site ginagawa yung work nila.. lalo na pag involved bank accounts and credit cards.. imagine kung WFH gagawin yan.. tapos may sira ulong agent na pwede kunan nang pics lahat nang credit card and bank account #s..

actually happened sa wells fargo.. kaya wala nang WFH sa kanila now.. kasi may agent na loko ginamit yung credit card nung client..

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We're talking about mga employed ng BPO. Majority kung sa voice sila for me hinde conducive for WFH.

this is where i'm coming from



di lang naman BPO ang tenant ng mga office building

iba't ibang klaseng business umuupa sa mga office building

kung mga employee whose work is puro email lang, there's no need to be physically in the office

companies are reducing floor area in office buildings and that's a problem for landlords

[_Cathy_]

We're talking about mga employed ng BPO. Majority kung sa voice sila for me hinde conducive for WFH. Saka mga nasa financial siguro. Hinde ko alam ano security ng system nila pag WFH access yun details.

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big reason yang security kaya mas prefer nang employers ang RTO.. may mga contracts with clients na kailangan sa site ginagawa yung work nila.. lalo na pag involved bank accounts and credit cards.. imagine kung WFH gagawin yan.. tapos may sira ulong agent na pwede kunan nang pics lahat nang credit card and bank account #s..

actually happened sa wells fargo.. kaya wala nang WFH sa kanila now.. kasi may agent na loko ginamit yung credit card nung client..

I've had several calls na I had to tell the agent that the background is too noisy.

Re financial, I knew na finance industry ang isa sa mauunang magpa balik sa office. Sa work ko, monthly halos 1 ream ang print outs ko kasi I print FS (financial statements) Ang print out samin sa network printer lang pwede kaya during lockdown tagal ko din nagtiis na sa monitor lang nagwo work e ideally I need my pencil and red ballpen for my checks. Bawal ilabas ng office those documents pa.

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For me tingin ko magiging RTO na rin lalo na pag officially ma declare na tapos na pandemic.

Imagine nasa bahay ka na lang buong araw hinde ka na lalabas, ok yan during the lockdown pero kung WFH ka para ka na rin naka lockdown pa rin. Pwede siguro yan sa mga walang social life, walang friends.


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[BratPAQ]

I've had several calls na I had to tell the agent that the background is too noisy.

Re financial, I knew na finance industry ang isa sa mauunang magpa balik sa office. Sa work ko, monthly halos 1 ream ang print outs ko kasi I print FS (financial statements) Ang print out samin sa network printer lang pwede kaya during lockdown tagal ko din nagtiis na sa monitor lang nagwo work e ideally I need my pencil and red ballpen for my checks. Bawal ilabas ng office those documents pa.

That's one thing I invested at when I started WFH, a good headset with noise cancellation. Using my own money to improve my WFH setup. May iba kasi, 2 years na WFH pag nag sa salita sa meeting eh "hello? hello? Can you hear me now?". Yung iba yung free headset lang yata ng cellphone gamit during meeting, ayaw gumastos para work nila.

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Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Office availability in central London is at its highest level in more than 15 years, the latest sign of how the pandemic-driven shift to remote working is upending demand for commercial property.

Availability was close to 31 million square feet in August 2022, according to real-estate data and information company CoStar. That’s the equivalent of about 60 Gherkin skyscrapers, and is up 51% from the 20 million square feet that was available at the end of 2019. Roughly 5 million square feet is marketed by tenants for sublease.

The last time there was close to this much empty space, office values plunged, causing billions in commercial real estate loans to sour. Availability in the aftermath of the global financial crisis peaked at 28 million square feet in mid-2009, according to CoStar, whose dataset goes back to 2005. The amount of square footage available in the capital has continued to rise this year, although at a slower pace than in the previous two years, CoStar found.

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US

Even the Government Is Paring Back on Leased Office Space | GlobeSt

The GAO says a majority of agencies will either cut back on the number of leases or square footage in their portfolio over the next three years due to hybrid and remote working.

The federal government is one gigantic office tenant. And a new General Accounting Office report says that, in a survey, most agencies are planning significant cutbacks in the amount of space they use.

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[_Cathy_]

For me tingin ko magiging RTO na rin lalo na pag officially ma declare na tapos na pandemic

Parang wala na nga pandemic sa CBD pero I think majority 3x on site na lang talaga.

Imagine nasa bahay ka na lang buong araw hinde ka na lalabas, ok yan during the lockdown pero kung WFH ka para ka na rin naka lockdown pa rin. Pwede siguro yan sa mga walang social life, walang friends.

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Napaka importante sa office ang relationships and it's hard to build that when everyone is WFH. Some of my lasting friendships were made in the 2 jobs that I had, I see them more often than I do my GS, HS or college friends. Pero ayoko ng 5x sa office, ideal sakin once a week lang.

That's one thing I invested at when I started WFH, a good headset with noise cancellation. Using my own money to improve my WFH setup. May iba kasi, 2 years na WFH pag nag sa salita sa meeting eh "hello? hello? Can you hear me now?". Yung iba yung free headset lang yata ng cellphone gamit during meeting, ayaw gumastos para work nila.

Sa office namin nire request headset kasi medyo mahal, I got one but I'm rarely on the phone for work naman. Sayang hindi ko nauwi kasi nung nagbawas kami ng floors ang daming tinapon na gamit sa office

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CEO of Binance

https://twitter.com/cz_binance/statu...34326219419648

I am baffled that we still force people to work in an office, especially for intellectual jobs such as web3, blockchain, etc. Here are some of the pros and cons of office vs remote work. 1/9

In person communication is better if you can have it. But at a certain size, you have to have regional teams. For web3 projects, most are global, having local teams is a must. Be close to your users. Remote work can't be avoided. 2/

In an office, you can micro manage them, which is bad. You can see them banging on the keyboard, but does not equal work? They may be chatting with their friends, etc. Micro management kills creativity. 3/

We all know 1 hr of high quality work is more than 10 hrs of "just in the office". Today, we measure results, not hours worked. Remote work forces you to do this as you can't manage the hours worked. 4/

Remote work allows your slackers to slack off, which is a GOOD thing. Why? It makes them more visible. After a period of time, they will have no results. And you can bottom them out. 5/

Remote work allows you to hire talent globally, no matter their location. Not all top talents are willing to move to a different country or city. 6/

Remote workers waste no commute time. Less tired. Less sweaty. More time to do real work. Remote workers can take a break when they are tired, like taking a nap, and wake up energized. 7/

Time zone coverage, obvious. Also, when you don’t force people to sit in an office from 9-6, they are more willing to take that 11PM (or 1AM) call with their colleagues in a different location. The list goes on, but you get the idea. 8/

We are no longer in the industrial age. Hire people you trust, then trust them. Work smart, work remote! 9/9

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Sa office namin nire request headset kasi medyo mahal, I got one but I'm rarely on the phone for work naman. Sayang hindi ko nauwi kasi nung nagbawas kami ng floors ang daming tinapon na gamit sa office

Buti ako inuwi ko yung 2 monitor ko sa office. Nag da dalawang isip pa ako noon na 1 month lang naman daw ang WFH kaya isa lang dadalhin ko. Nung yung katabi ko 2 monitor dinala 2 na rin dinala ko.

Naalala ko lang noon, ang nasa isip namin 1 month lang kami WFH so I left many of my personal things sa locker. Binalikan ko na lang sya sa office after 1 year.

Di ba parang 1 month lockdown lang declared ng government noon or am I inventing memories?

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Buti ako inuwi ko yung 2 monitor ko sa office. Nag da dalawang isip pa ako noon na 1 month lang naman daw ang WFH kaya isa lang dadalhin ko. Nung yung katabi ko 2 monitor dinala 2 na rin dinala ko.

Naalala ko lang noon, ang nasa isip namin 1 month lang kami WFH so I left many of my personal things sa locker. Binalikan ko na lang sya sa office after 1 year.

Di ba parang 1 month lockdown lang declared ng government noon or am I inventing memories?

Sa dami ng levels hindi ko na rin maalala, yung strict lockdown na only one person from the household can go out, no deliveries, tapos bawal lumabas ng city unless essential work, umabot na yun ng one month? Ang clear ang memory ko, March 2020 nag start ang WFH. I never imagined this nightmare pandemic would drag on for years pala.

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tsikoteers you need to undestand ang galaw ng mundo.

in my existence nakita ko yan nung world trade center yung nagcrash eroplano so after that stressful na sumakay sobra paghihigpit.

next changes yung ondoy nagbago na pagbili ng bahay dapat hindi binabaha pag residential

tapos ngayon pandemic the new normal. Ilan beses na ako nag ongpin ang laki changes ang aga na closing 5:30pm pa lang sarado na si bee tin!!!! Eh bibili ako ng kiamoy and olive candy. Dami aga closing ngayon sa ongpin nakakalungkot yung vibe. Hindi na ako nakakakita chinawoman na magaganda.

nakita nyo nga tumiklop na si peza. Kaya nga binabraso ni goga negosyo balik office kasi mga mafia heavily invested jan. But sabi ko nga if there is a more efficient way eh maoobsolete ka. Ito pandemic madami tinuturo.

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^^^

mali mali pagkaintindi mo sa nangyayari

anong tiklop PEZA?

ung PEZA nga gusto ituloy ang WFH

coz they're afraid BPOs will lose employees pag pinilit ang return to office

The Philippine Economic Zone Authority (Peza) warned on Thursday that registered business process outsourcing (BPO) firms may take significant hits, including loss of highly skilled employees, among others, if the government does not extend the period allowing this industry to keep their tax perks while under a 30-percent work-from-home (WFH) setup.

Peza officer in charge and Deputy Director General for Policy and Planning Tereso Panga said this was but one of the possible consequences if the government would decide not to extend this measure which was set to end on Sept. 12.

The Philippine Economic Zone Authority (Peza) warned on Thursday that registered business process outsourcing (BPO) firms may take significant hits, including loss of highly skilled employees, among others, if the government does not extend the period allowing this industry to keep their tax perks while under a 30-percent work-from-home (WFH) setup.

ung national government ang gusto ng return to office

dahil gusto irevive ang consumption sa physical stores

pag nasa bahay mga tao konte tao sa mga tindahan

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pag pinilit mo bumalik sa opisina mga ayaw, magreresign mga yan

patay ang BPO

ung national government ang tumiklop

hindi PEZA

kakampi ng PEZA ang WFH

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We all know 1 hr of high quality work is more than 10 hrs of "just in the office". Today, we measure results, not hours worked. Remote work forces you to do this as you can't manage the hours worked. 4/

Remote workers waste no commute time. Less tired. Less sweaty. More time to do real work. Remote workers can take a break when they are tired, like taking a nap, and wake up energized. 7/

Itong dalawa ang major factor ng comapny namin kaya mas pinili ang WFH setup sa majority ng account. Delivery ang basis na ngayon. Kahit WFH ka kung nadedeliver mo rin naman yung nadedeliver mo dati nung nasa office pa, o minsan higit pa sa kaya mo before, mas mainam pa nga ang WFH.

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si Go Negosyo naman syempre kakampi niya mga may ari ng office buildings and malls

kaya gusto niya return to office para dumami tao sa mga business district

para may makolektang upa mga may ari ng buildling

may kakain sa mga resto, may mag shopping sa mga mall

pag matao ang lugar, kikita mga tenant, may pambayad sa upa

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pero cannot stop change

naranansan na ng tao ang WFH

naramdaman ang benefits (no commute, more quality time)

di na maalis yan

mawawalan ng talent mga business pag pinilit nila

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We all know 1 hr of high quality work is more than 10 hrs of "just in the office". Today, we measure results, not hours worked. Remote work forces you to do this as you can't manage the hours worked. 4/

Remote workers waste no commute time. Less tired. Less sweaty. More time to do real work. Remote workers can take a break when they are tired, like taking a nap, and wake up energized. 7/

Itong dalawa ang major factor ng comapny namin kaya mas pinili ang WFH setup sa majority ng account. Delivery ang basis na ngayon. Kahit WFH ka kung nadedeliver mo rin naman yung nadedeliver mo dati nung nasa office pa, o minsan higit pa sa kaya mo before, mas mainam pa nga ang WFH.

korek

ung mga business owner na ayaw sa WFH are micromanagers