Survey: San maganda iinvest pera

[onindavid]

i understand that most of you are skeptical about high yield programs.yes, it is a really high risk business..and also all businesses...only if you dont know or you lack knowledge on how to operate it. sino ba nman ang kikita sa isang bakeshop business kung di naman sila marunong magbake?. get my point? some programs are scams, and the way on how they make profit in this kind of business are sometimes questionable. pero hindi lahat. i have programs that has been operating since 1980s! they have an experienced and professional team of traders who handles the company's fund. with their skill and knowledge and also a wide range of experience, they have already proved that they can make money on these portfolios. we can do the things that they do simply because we dont know how to do it!
anyway, it still depends to you. the best that you can do is to learn more about these programs.if possible, puntahan nyo sa mismong location nila. in our group we send one of our members for confirmation.thats why we dont suffer any loses on scams, legal and registered ang lhat ng programs namin na nkukuha.and one thing,naglalagay lng kami kung magkano lng ang kailangan namin, it means bawal sa grupo namin ang greedy.. i suggest you start on min. amounts. 1000 ang kalimitan na minimum. trying is not losing. not trying is LOSING. try nyo lng.
i think francswiss is legitimate,but i believe it would not last that long, maybe a year lng.
Good luck to you guys!
God Bless us all.

[mazdamazda]

hahaha!
wlang ganun, banko lng ang gumagawa ng imprenta ng pera.
mga investment programs ang business ko. i hve a group holding our investments. konti lang ang nkakaalam tlaga nito, mostly mga traders lng.
u try to look at this site, www.hyip.com. just be aware of fraud investment programs.Good luck! by the way, if u have add. questions, u cud ask me anytime.
on 1 of my accounts, im earning 3% daily. tamang tama lng sa panggastos ko.. HINT: If i have 100k on that account, how much is 3% daily?...

God bless us all

P100,000 compounded daily on 3% will yield P4,848,272,452.75 after a year.

If you do not compound it, you'll earn P1,095,000 after a year.

That's just plain B.S.

Don't try to sell or recruit people here in Tsikot as we have a policy against promoting ILLEGAL activities. I consider your "program" as such.

:fyi:

[BlueBimmer]

potek 1M in just a year!!!

we all can now finally retire!!! bakit pa tayo magttrabaho!??! :rofl01:

[oliver1013]

Kung sana nga ay pangmatagalan ok sana....Kaso hindi

[Lucius]

Ung nagyaya sakin na friend ko (former friend) sa ganyan (LEGACY) di ko na friend ngayon hehehehe. So to the others na kinidnap pa ko to their HQs. Sayang time, sayang pera, sayang gas. In the end, wala kang kikitain na malaki. Or if meron man, show of good faith lang.

[empy]

P100,000 compounded daily on 3% will yield P4,848,272,452.75 after a year.

If you do not compound it, you'll earn P1,095,000 after a year.

That's just plain B.S.

Don't try to sell or recruit people here in Tsikot as we have a policy against promoting ILLEGAL activities. I consider your "program" as such.

:fyi:

ahaha cinompute pa talaga ni m2 yung value pag daily compounding :rofl01:

i could have opened excel when i first mentioned it pero tinamad ako eh

[badsekktor]

i think francswiss is legitimate,but i believe it would not last that long, maybe a year lng.

medyo duda ako dude. I agreed to watch the orientation of this guy (emerson yata yun name), agent sya ng francswiss and he's really pissed about me asking too much questions (later i found out na my friend and his mom will be paying the 2000 k dollars). Tinanong ko sya kung pano saan nag-iinvest yun francswiss pero wala sya mabanggit na kahit ano. lahat ng answers nya masyadong general and dun lang kami dinala sa 2nd floor ng chowking (ni hindi man lang nagpainom ng softdrinks dahil inabala nya kami) and take note after ng bayaran (which took place in an internet cafe dahil gagawan daw ng acct sa website) wala man lang binigay na resibo or anything na katunayan na may investment sya francswiss at hindi man lang nya binayaran yun rent sa computer shop.

i just cant help but wonder kasi sabi nya kumikita sya ng 200 k a day dyan sa francswiss pero by his looks and the ride he is using, malamang swindling to or extortion.

[lolo pepe]

medyo duda ako dude. I agreed to watch the orientation of this guy (emerson yata yun name), agent sya ng francswiss and he's really pissed about me asking too much questions (later i found out na my friend and his mom will be paying the 2000 k dollars). Tinanong ko sya kung pano saan nag-iinvest yun francswiss pero wala sya mabanggit na kahit ano. lahat ng answers nya masyadong general and dun lang kami dinala sa 2nd floor ng chowking (ni hindi man lang nagpainom ng softdrinks dahil inabala nya kami) and take note after ng bayaran (which took place in an internet cafe dahil gagawan daw ng acct sa website) wala man lang binigay na resibo or anything na katunayan na may investment sya francswiss at hindi man lang nya binayaran yun rent sa computer shop.

i just cant help but wonder kasi sabi nya kumikita sya ng 200 k a day dyan sa francswiss pero by his looks and the ride he is using, malamang swindling to or extortion.

malaking pera ang 2000 K (2 million dollars?) para ibigay sa isang tao na walang resibo o legal binding document...tsk...tsk...tsk. oh, well, balitaan mo na lang kami kung ano na ang nangyari sa friend mo after 1 month.

[BlueBimmer]

baka $2k yan...nagkamali at nadagdagan ng 000 hehehe

kung $2M over the counter lang? wow thats either the investor is too filthy rich or plain stupid

[badsekktor]

baka $2k yan...nagkamali at nadagdagan ng 000 hehehe

kung $2M over the counter lang? wow thats either the investor is too filthy rich or plain stupid

sorry typo mga sir... 2000 dollars lang. pero walang resibo or anything na proof na nagbigay ka ng pera. I actually warned him before sila magbigay. kaya lang yun mom nya convinced na parang ewan. nabadtrip nga sakin yun emerson (sya yun nag-orient) kasi napurnada yun 2000, ginawa na lang 1000 nung magbabayaran na.

nakikibalita rin ako dun sa friend ko. sabi nya kasi kumikita na daw (according sa site ng francswiss) pero ang inaabangan namin kasi eh pano nya ma-iincash yun credits. Sabi nung isang guy na nagoyo din eh 8 days pa daw bago makuha yun credit card na ibibigay ng francswiss which is duda ako since di naman siya hiningan ng info saka ID's para makapag-open ng CC and yun friend namin ay may CC na (bakit kaya di pwede dun na lang i-transfer yun credits di ba?)

pwede ba entrapment tong ganito? i mean pwede ba ipahuli? sobrang obvious kasi na scam eh!

[Galactus]

^^^ Credit card? AFAIK, you need a secondary license from the BSP to put up a credit card company. Also, malaking capital ang kailangan dyan, especially if you plan to be affiliated with either MasterCard or Visa (US $2M), excluding the software.

Baka naman debit card lang. At any rate, malabo talaga. This is definitely a scam.

just cant help but wonder kasi sabi nya kumikita sya ng 200 k a day dyan sa francswiss pero by his looks and the ride he is using, malamang swindling to or extortion.

Yan din ang batayan ko before kung totoo yung pinagyayabang sa akin ng mga sales agents (from 1st Quadrant at FLP). May nag-iinvite nga sa akin before na he was earning 120k in commission per month sa FLP, tapos nung dumating sa meeting place naka-tricycle lang tapos yung relo nya (Casio na analog), hindi naman umaandar (tapos may mist pa sa loob ng watch face!)

[badsekktor]

^^^ Credit card? AFAIK, you need a secondary license from the BSP to put up a credit card company. Also, malaking capital ang kailangan dyan, especially if you plan to be affiliated with either MasterCard or Visa (US $2M), excluding the software.

Baka naman debit card lang. At any rate, malabo talaga. This is definitely a scam.



Yan din ang batayan ko before kung totoo yung pinagyayabang sa akin ng mga sales agents (from 1st Quadrant at FLP). May nag-iinvite nga sa akin before na he was earning 120k in commission per month sa FLP, tapos nung dumating sa meeting place naka-tricycle lang tapos yung relo nya (Casio na analog), hindi naman umaandar (tapos may mist pa sa loob ng watch face!)

hehehehe! the guy did not even treat us! kahit softdrinks man lang! considering na kikita sya ng 10% ng $1000 for every person na marerecruit nya! hehehe! anyway balitaan ko kayo kung kumikita nga ng $45 a day yun friend namin. sabi ko nga kapag kumita kahit 2 thou, magpainom sya eh! hehehe!

[calm_harbor]

My officemate is already earning from francswiss... He gets his so-called "$45/day earning" (shempre converted to peso na) from the francswiss agent every other day. According to francswiss agents you can withdraw your investment in 2 months time.

The catch here, I guess, is that everyone knows it's a scam but they're risking investing their money in it making sure that they pull-out in 2 months time (maturity) or before the company marks its first year. Smart move, though.

As my friend told me, in that 50k minimum that you invest, 2k goes to the agent, so only 48k is placed in the stock market. Let's say $1 = P45, then you roughly earn P2,025/ day ($45) so ROI in 25 days...

The agent also told him that the money's gonna be invested for casino use.

Just sharing what I learned from my friend...

Two of my friends will invest by the end of the month, doling out 25k each... Hati sila.. so each roughly earns P1,012.5 a day, ROI in 25 days (kung ma scam man, bumalik na yung money nila), another 25k in the next 25 days (1 month and 20 days) and another 25k in 2 months and 15 days + another 25K (the money to be pulled out from francswiss..)

Still skeptical, though

[wildthing]

Someone inquired about FRANCSWISS. It is a scam. I thought I should share some blogs about scams with you. Here we go.

read on to this thread genghis...
http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38851

true or not?!?

Can you please explain here genghis and we would be willing to know your side of this.

[badsekktor]

genghis please answer the question. is francswiss legitimate or not? please answer it directly.
is this legal?

[wildthing]

is it (francswiss) a SEC registered company?

[frenchtower]

I was able to chance upon another forum and I was lucky to see a familiar name on this shaddy francswiss scheme - Genghis.

Apparently he is using the same VERBATIM pitch as bait to sell his ideas to other people. Almost word for word. I have nothing against Genghis nor improving one's current financial predicament, it is just that the whole thing is screaming BALONEY and it is not directly and accurately providing credible answers.

If I would entrust my money to another person, I expect that I be well informed as to how my money will be handled and where it is going. What if their website suddenly close the next day? How can investors recoup their investment? Do they have a physical office in the Philippines to which one can stake their legal claim? Does the company have hedge funds to protect its investors and support any sneezes in the market where they evolve? Hell, I am a living proof of the tech bubble when it burst in the late 1990's and a lot of internet based businesses just became non-existent even before one can utter a darn word.

I agree with M2 as it is just simply impossible/improbable to gain so much wealth in such a short period of time. I simply cannot imagine one being a billionaire (not millionaire) in 13 months time X=number of investors worldwide.

A more concise response to this one will keep my mouth shut. Otherwise, the whole thing remains to be an elaborate SCAM.

http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question...3222438AAGFx2G

[LexTer]

sumali ng tsikot yan para lang manghikayat. yan ang bottom line dyan.

[Lucius]

Scam to 100% yan ang sigurado ko. Na-badtrip ako dun sa schoolmate ko na ang haba haba ng tinext. Pero may isang line dun na di ko alam if matawa ako or mainis "panalo tawa, iyak talo" sus. Pano ka naman matalo if di ka maginvest. Kapal ng mukha talaga ng mga networkers, tpos in the end di naman magtatagal. Di na lang magnegosyo ng maayos.

[frenchtower]

If Genghis claims to be an investor and he is trying hook people up to this scheme, then he gets $100 referral commission. For anyone investing $1,000.00, one is promised $45 or 4.5% daily profit. Imagine only $900 being entered into a dubious investment scheme. More scarry is that $++ goes to the upline that you do not see or even know. God knows how much money is really invested into their so called program. In simple accounting parlance, this is like "kiting" where interest is financed wrongfully by other means not necessarily in the context of stock/bond investment. This is not uncommon in the illegal MLM scenario. SCAM... SCAM... SCAM...

Totoo sabi ni Lexter (my Bedan brod), gusto lang ni Genghis manghikayat at kumita dito sa Tsikot. Walang masamang kumita pero sana wag nang mangdamay ng iba.