i don't do $h!t at work. do you?

[1D4LV]

Guys,

I work from IT, Davao ako, so hinde gano kadami malipatan for the Skill that I have. I am working mostly on Linux Servers. But there was a time na I am thinking of shifting, parang ayaw ko na nang IT, but you know, sometimes we need to reflect, maybe dahil sa outage dito, outage dyan, kahit anong oras, tatawagan, so pressured masyado but still able to handle though. So, what I did, I try to find some diversion. Hehe, pinasok ko short course na automotive... hehe, kasama ko mga mechanic sa 6 months na every saturday. at dun ko na realized, swerte pa rin naman trabaho ko. So ito, enjoy na lang what I have now, and maybe, will grow old with the company i am connected currently, yeah, there are a lot to learn everyday on the skills that I have, but I cant learn that all because we have to balance our time, we need to have time to family and dont use that time to extend work tasks when you are on off work. Just learn to teach your subordinate on basics para pwede mo maiwan trabaho mo.

Hehe, tama na din pag may extra time ka talaga, stock market will make you busy.

OT: di ka naman taga ONB bro?

[dishcom]

Kung hindi ka member nang EXECOM... hindi mo ako maiintindihan sir.

One thing sir. Malaki difference nang Working Hard at working smart. Most people who work smart hindi mo napapansin na nagtratrabaho.

If you see people who work hard simply walang alam.

Hindi ako member ng execom..akin ang oras ko at wala akong boss..
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Sa ngayon stock market ang pina aaral sa akin ni kumander.. hehe..
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Ramdam ko kasi na hindi ako magaling humawak ng tao. Kaya work na lang ako alone..

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Thank you for your replies.

Don't get me wrong am I thankful every single day for having a stable job. I posted that wall of text rant last week because of extreme boredom and having no direction at work. I agree with the post about working smart. i'm never one to be called "hardworker'. It mostly applies to blue collar work where working more = more take home pay. in the office when the goal is to climb up, you should figure out how to work smart.

Going back
I found out my manager is thinking of leaving. that makes me the next in line. If what happened to me for the past year (read update post re: my promotion) continues 2-3 more years, I may just be the most clueless GM/Director ever hahaha..

Work might just be my most unproductive time of the day. yes I can learn new stuff. yes I can start projects. yes I can improve processes. I can find time to coach my DRs. You know what, and correct me if I am wrong, But a job without direction sucks the life out of someone. It saps your energy and enthusiasm. your brain farts all day long in the office. it sucks.

PS: our boss scheduled a synch-up meeting last friday. a few hours before we all go home. who schedules a meeting on the last day of the week?

[1D4LV]

Thank you for your replies.

Don't get me wrong am I thankful every single day for having a stable job. I posted that wall of text rant last week because of extreme boredom and having no direction at work. I agree with the post about working smart. i'm never one to be called "hardworker'. It mostly applies to blue collar work where working more = more take home pay. in the office when the goal is to climb up, you should figure out how to work smart.

Going back
I found out my manager is thinking of leaving. that makes me the next in line. If what happened to me for the past year (read update post re: my promotion) continues 2-3 more years, I may just be the most clueless GM/Director ever hahaha..

Work might just be my most unproductive time of the day. yes I can learn new stuff. yes I can start projects. yes I can improve processes. I can find time to coach my DRs. You know what, and correct me if I am wrong, But a job without direction sucks the life out of someone. It saps your energy and enthusiasm. your brain farts all day long in the office. it sucks.

PS: our boss scheduled a synch-up meeting last friday. a few hours before we all go home. who schedules a meeting on the last day of the week?

OT: my boss does.....

[draiman]

You’re blessed, TS, whichever way I look at it. We work for money, maybe not all of us, but most, otherwise tambay na lang tayo, watching TV and guzzling beers all day sa bahay.

Though I’m not in a management role like you are, I can somehow relate to how you feel when not doing anything, no challenges on hand, no learning.
I’m also in IT, writing complex codes, and I feel the lowest when I’m not doing anything, I get depressed at work, I feel so useless. Parang feeling ko anytime they can fire me, so the depression comes from thinking about job security, unlike siguro ikaw na hindi concerned gaano sa finances.
Siguro your frustrations will be ten folds lalo na kung a$$hole ang team leader or boss mo, that you oftentimes imagining punching him in the face. I sometimes think about that, and a couple of times poured by frustration by punching the toilet walls.
Swerte mo naman, dahil ako sa kalagayan mo, as long as I’m earning, I don’t care if I’m learning, kasi ang learning part sa akin na yun, kahit di ko makuha sa work at hand, I always find time to teach myself something useful, something interesting pag nasa work ako, esp. one that will enhance my credentials. Marami lang siguro talagang dapat pag aralan pag nasa IT, kaya yun ang mindset ko.

So, do what you have to do to make you happy and hope that your next role is much better and blessed than what you have now.

[JJ All Day]

its discouraging really.

its exhausting doing nothing. minutes seem like hours and hours seem like days. I heard our brains are essentially a huge muscle. if that's the case then mine's probably gone. I don't exert any effort at all with this sh!t. less than 2 hrs of easy work and I am done for the day. No challenge, no mental stimulation, no effort required. 9 years ago I remember actually wanting to go to work for 5 days/week even If i had the option to do it in 4 by working longer each day. I was averaging 30-40 hrs OT/cutoff. that was how I liked it here. 2 re-orgs, 2 ownership changes, almost 10 years later, a lot has happened. Our responsibilities have been taken away from us. We now have essentially 2 teams of the same kind for each area because of the acquisition. We are probably doing less than 30% of what we used to do before and yet here i am. here I am 9 hours a day sitting in front of my PC aimlessly surfing the web with my usual rotation of websites. and there are like 5 of 'em including tsikot. it doesn't help that they're so strict with what you can and cannot browse.

I manage a team of 6 who can do their work even with half a brain. They're good people, love them. but this is going nowhere. I fake my enthusiasm because I don't want the discouragement to affect them. Can you imagine your boss, the one who hired you, lose every fibre of motivation? yeah I am starting to look like that.

I started applying months ago, but have only been getting interviews lately. rumor has it that for 2015, our company had talks with the other big players in our industry about our non-compete clause. A waiver would have to be signed by legal if they wanted to hire someone from us. That probably explains why come Dec 2015-Jan 2016, suddenly i got 3 calls from 2 different recruiters when I have been searching as early as January 2015. first one never got it going, 2nd one got me on a job interview. interview was good. I am still waiting if I can get that offer. I hope to God i do.

Sorry for ranting. I know a lot of guys would kill to be in this position and call me lucky getting paid doing jacksh!t but for those of you who know, know that it. is. awful.

You do not have to reply, and I am only ranting, but if you have ever had this kind of experience then please comfort me with your stories hahaha...ha ha.. *sobs*

You did not do what is expected from you.

[Juan Martinez]

work in the government... join the marines or the special forces... am sure you won't have time to rant anymore... and i tell you it is VERY REWARDING (with SSL 2015) and every day is a story to tell...

[CLAVEL3699]

I found out my manager is thinking of leaving. that makes me the next in line. If what happened to me for the past year (read update post re: my promotion) continues 2-3 more years, I may just be the most clueless GM/Director ever hahaha..

Work might just be my most unproductive time of the day. yes I can learn new stuff. yes I can start projects. yes I can improve processes. I can find time to coach my DRs. You know what, and correct me if I am wrong, But a job without direction sucks the life out of someone. It saps your energy and enthusiasm. your brain farts all day long in the office. it sucks.

PS: our boss scheduled a synch-up meeting last friday. a few hours before we all go home. who schedules a meeting on the last day of the week?

Me! I always ask my people to conduct a meeting for me sa last day/hour of the week... why? they review things that they missed and they plan ahead for the next week. I can test also there attitude towards work.

It's all about planning and things to discuss (topics ) not about the schedule meeting.Do you think you can be a good leader ( as you say you will be a clueless GM/Director) Leader vs. Motivator... Are you a Leader or a Motivator?

You are not a motivator... hindi mo kayang motivate ang sarili mo.

[benchman]

Ibig sabihin sir... madaming problema ang Planta. Yung mga Policy and Procedure are not working properly. Magulo ang systema nang mga line managers hanggang sa Line man.

Kung hindi ako nagtratrabaho means walang problema. Maganda ang output dapat chil chill lang.

Kung hindi ka member nang EXECOM... hindi mo ako maiintindihan sir.

One thing sir. Malaki difference nang Working Hard at working smart. Most people who work smart hindi mo napapansin na nagtratrabaho.

If you see people who work hard simply walang alam.

hmmmm,,, good point

[Calistro]

Hirap yan sinasabi nyo na walang direction sa work. So upper management does not say anything on your team's goals?

Baka naman midlife crisis lang kayo sir.

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[1D4LV]

Me! I always ask my people to conduct a meeting for me sa last day/hour of the week... why? they review things that they missed and they plan ahead for the next week. I can test also there attitude towards work.

It's all about planning and things to discuss (topics ) not about the schedule meeting.Do you think you can be a good leader ( as you say you will be a clueless GM/Director) Leader vs. Motivator... Are you a Leader or a Motivator?

You are not a motivator... hindi mo kayang motivate ang sarili mo.

coming from an IT Director position, i was thrust into a GM role three years ago, because I guess I was the only qualified personnel attitude wise. From a technical management position, I was forced to learn the ropes on business development, sales, marketing, human resources and even finance without having someone to mentor me or to learn someone from. all guts and no glory, ika nga. three years, and the company became profitable.

you have to learn on how to change your mindset. as a GM, you try to think as if you own the business (whereas, it is my personal opinion that each employee, whatever rank he/she is in, should have this mindset). this way, you only think on improvements to the process, improvements to the system, toward that end-goal which is profitability. while doing that, you have to have that excellent rapport to the employees dahil sila ang life blood ng negosyo. you also have to know and learn more, and build relationships with your clients dahil sila ang bibili ng produkto mo.

i agree that aside from the Leader and Motivator, you have to have that business mindset. Mahirap sa umpisa, pero kakayanin. ANd yes, you have to have that distinguishing characteristic of being a leader, instead of just being a boss.

After three years, I was appointed this January as a GM of another affiliate company. So dalawa na..... Hehehehehe. Eto..... Windang na ako everyday, so hindi na ako bored.

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Me! I always ask my people to conduct a meeting for me sa last day/hour of the week... why? they review things that they missed and they plan ahead for the next week. I can test also there attitude towards work.

It's all about planning and things to discuss (topics ) not about the schedule meeting.Do you think you can be a good leader ( as you say you will be a clueless GM/Director) Leader vs. Motivator... Are you a Leader or a Motivator?

You are not a motivator... hindi mo kayang motivate ang sarili mo.

Bam!! That stings a little. Maybe I need that. Been trying really hard to motivate myself lately. Between monday and friday meets i'd choose the former. Your mind is fresh, people are more focused, you can still review the past week, while you have the rest of the week ahead of you right there. Thats just me though.

Uhm mejo malayo pa ako sa mid life hehe. Ung crisis ko at work lang dahil sa boredom and a lack of purpose.

Breakthrough: just got a call from recruiter and i got a final interview scheduled on Thurs. I hope I am able to impress the hiring staff and get a decent offer. I think it is a promising role, with a lot of WORK/GOALS (thats why they are looking externally)! Wish me luck!

[CLAVEL3699]

Between monday and friday meets i'd choose the former. Your mind is fresh, people are more focused, you can still review the past week, while you have the rest of the week ahead of you right there. Thats just me though.

thats the point why i asked them to conduct it every friday. changing the mindset going extra mile.

It's all about new things changing the attitude.

[_Cathy_]

I like the attitude of the TS. I have encountered a lot of people at work who thrive on doing nothing

I technically don't have any sh1t to do for 3 weeks in a month My work is monthly so I am only busy 1 out of 4 weeks. My German boss is aware of this and he allotted this time for me to work on my projects/improvements/initiatives. This is good for me since management likes projects. I'm quite happy and motivated working on projects because my members have so much enthusiasm and initiative. Are your team members the same way? Pag tamad kasi mga kasama mo, nakakatamad din. I guess it is really up to you on how you decide to spend your slack time. I like how I can work at my own pace with no pressure.

Lagi ko ngang sinasabi sa mga kasama kong madaming reklamo sa work "be careful what you wish for".

Exactly. I'd choose a job with lots of free time over a high pressure job. I've been there are I am not going back.

If you are an employee and is always not busy, your neck will be on the chopping block when there is reduction in force or restructuring, there is no job security.

This is so true. My current trainee does nothing for 3 weeks in a month. Absolutely nothing. I don't know how she spends her time. I am aware of her work because I am the one who assigns the tasks. She either gets in a bad mood or produces shitty output for new tasks. It amazes me how she would submit a report that takes 30 mins to make at the end of the day. I don't know if she is trying to fool us into thinking she is busy. My German boss is aware of this, out of 160 working hrs a month (8 hrs x 20 work days), she only functions at 30%, which means the company is losing money on her. My German boss told me she will be history soon We are in the process of reducing head count as the company is at a net loss. These people who don't mind getting paid for nothing makes me question their family background They are what I would call magulang at makapal mukha.

[A121]

I think you can also look at different IT or PMP certifications on your free time sa office. Pampaganda rin ng resume should you need to leave for greener pastures.

[badsekktor]

Came to a point where it feels like you are doing nothing. Lalo na kapag paulit-ulit yun ginagawa.

Put up your own business. I promise you, you'll never have a dull moment lalo na kapag may tauhan ka na iniintindi

[1D4LV]

Came to a point where it feels like you are doing nothing. Lalo na kapag paulit-ulit yun ginagawa.

Put up your own business. I promise you, you'll never have a dull moment lalo na kapag may tauhan ka na iniintindi

however, it will not be easy for someone without sufficient capitalization.
you have to think of so many things.... pag kinapos ka, pano sweldo ng mga tauhan mo?

[badkuk]

however, it will not be easy for someone without sufficient capitalization.
you have to think of so many things.... pag kinapos ka, pano sweldo ng mga tauhan mo?

Some people do form a group/consortium to get more funds; some become silent partners, while the less moneyed contribute work, while some have networks of suppliers and customers.

It's not without its risks of course, the more people involved the more chances of conflicts/disagreements...but what can you do, la pera eh ^_^

[badsekktor]

however, it will not be easy for someone without sufficient capitalization.
you have to think of so many things.... pag kinapos ka, pano sweldo ng mga tauhan mo?

Yep! Definitely! Lalo na dito sa pinas. Pahabaan ng pisi ang pagnenegosyo. legal na nga lahat, kabikabila pa manghihingi sa yo na akala mo eh namumulot ka ng pera! That is why you'll never have a dull moment. Lagi gagana isip mo kung paano mo ma-way mga issues. Siguro start small muna with few employees. Or find a partner or whatever na diskarte para masolusyonan mga obstacles. Diskarte na ng negosyante yun

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I'm OP & here's an update:

I've had enough of this and I am finally making the jump.

A few weeks back, my application process has progressed to an offer. It was more than what I was making, but it was still lower than what I wanted. I negotiated beyond the ceiling price and the recruiter hesitantly OK'd. I know I was risking the offer at that point, but I refused to shortchange myself. I was desperate to get out, but I certainly didn't look the part. A few days came by and I got their email reply. People do smell desperation, but I discovered that the smell of confidence is stronger. They caved. Holy **** I got my asking price! *pumps fist* I couldn't be any happier.

Things went fast from there and I pulled my manager aside and told her it was time for me to go. Manager took it well and it was very pleasant and professional, too professional in fact, that it was free of any emotions. Just how it should be in my opinion. All's well that ends well, as a matter of fact. I am about to start at my new job, and I am excited as hell.

For those of you in a similar situation, please know that it will get better. It gets better. But it will do, only if you make the first move. You shall receive, but only if you ask. Sometimes, moving on is the better choice, and not making any is still a choice, albeit a poor one. I think I've made mine and it paid off.

Gist: Didn't do anything at work, but still managed to get myself promoted. Found out that the expectations in my new post was practically zero, so I still ended up doing nothing, just getting paid 50% more. Got bored as hell and my skills stagnated. I learned that while I still get paid good money, it was stressful feeling useless. I was miserable and I complained a lot. Had enough of it and I got myself another job with a 40% salary bump to sweeten the deal.

So what can we learn from all of this? aside from the fact THAT I PISS PURE LUCK, I think its completely fine to complain. Complaining shows the way, complaining makes you see things from a different perspective. But that complaining while doing nothing is completely different and will do you no good. I maybe lucky, but luck favors the prepared.

Thank you for taking the team to read, comment and advice, I appreciate it. keep the positive vibes coming folks!