GPS Navigation System [merged threads]

[StraightSix]

Here's the thread regarding the Mitac PDA SatNav ... http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showt...ighlight=mitac . Unfortunately I didn't get the answer as to why there's a subscription fee, though I assume it's for the vehicle tracking function (as opposed to navigating).

[zeagle]

I have a Garmin GPSMAP60 which I use for out of town trips. You can download maps kaya lang general map lang for pinas. Medyo out of sync pa sa actual. Is there a way for me to create my own map and upload to my GPS?

[3stan]

Wala bang subscription ito? Just what i said Findme is a GIS company that sells their services on location base system. So if this Mitac that u said is a device u can install sa sasakyan mo, who will update the data on it?

Findme is a GIS company that sells their services but also their the one who developed the GuideMe software. yup i know may subcription ito for the use of their map kasi every year may nagbabago sa map and para updated naman map mo..for the first year alam ko free yung subcription. I used to work before sa findme as a developer.

[RedHotBlood]

bakit di na lang they sell na lang yung updated version para wala ng fee, like sa mga yachts. yung Garmin ng US na kinabit namin sa fishing boat binilhan namin ng mapping/chart ng philippines (mas mahal pa dun sa unit) pero walang subscription. Sana ganun na lang, pero, teka nga pala bro, why need a gps since philippines is a small country? Yung bang mga BMw's na binebenta dito na may sharks fin may GPS like sa abroad?

[zeagle]

There are a lot of uses for the gps other than giving you directions. Even if Pinas is such a small country, there are places that you go to which you are not familiar. This way if you get lost, you can back track. I also use it in gauging the shortest route to a place that I usually go to. I usually go to Anilao and there are several ways to go there. Having a GPS helps me determine the shortest route. Of course the shortest does not necessarily mean the fastest. I also use it in mapping off shore sites. I do a lot of diving and there are sites that are hard to find specially if your triangulates do not appear well due to weather conditions. Finally, I always like to know my general location when I go out of town. It helps me keep my bearings.

[cesar]

Also, kapag ginawa nila yung walang subscription di nawalan sila ng business! Like i said GIS co here in Phils have their own mapping software. Ung iba nga di gaanong accurate off ng mga 1km to 10km. That's why they keep on updating their system.

Actually, kung matyaga ka u can do ur own map using GPS device like Garmin etc. By doing this mas accurate ung map mo kasi GPS generated ung map hindi ung galing sa mapa and iniscan then they plot the coordinates dun sa map.

[knightblade]

Nung umuwi ako ng Pinas (a year ago), I used my Garmin Ique 3600 (PDA/GPS). Kaso walang akong detailed map ng Philippines so yung world-map lang ang gamit ko which show major highways only. Meron ba kayong alam na contact details ng Guideme? Para matanong ko kung yung software nila is compatible with my unit.

[knightblade]

There are a lot of uses for the gps other than giving you directions. Even if Pinas is such a small country, there are places that you go to which you are not familiar. This way if you get lost, you can back track. I also use it in gauging the shortest route to a place that I usually go to. I usually go to Anilao and there are several ways to go there. Having a GPS helps me determine the shortest route. Of course the shortest does not necessarily mean the fastest. I also use it in mapping off shore sites. I do a lot of diving and there are sites that are hard to find specially if your triangulates do not appear well due to weather conditions. Finally, I always like to know my general location when I go out of town. It helps me keep my bearings.

Anong GPS ang gamit mo ang where did you get the map? Is it detailed (includes minor streets)?

[zeagle]

Anong GPS ang gamit mo ang where did you get the map? Is it detailed (includes minor streets)?

Garmin GPSMAP60. Just a general map with just major highway like EDSA and South Superhighway. It comes with the GPS.

[StraightSix]

bakit di na lang they sell na lang yung updated version para wala ng fee, like sa mga yachts. yung Garmin ng US na kinabit namin sa fishing boat binilhan namin ng mapping/chart ng philippines (mas mahal pa dun sa unit) pero walang subscription. Sana ganun na lang, pero, teka nga pala bro, why need a gps since philippines is a small country? Yung bang mga BMw's na binebenta dito na may sharks fin may GPS like sa abroad?

They want to earn more money ... first, by selling the software and second, through updates. Fair enough, since Philippine roads always change (through addition, direction or change of name).

Regarding BMW shark fins ... it is a part that signifies the car is BlueTooth prepared, not necessarily meaning it also has SatNav/GPS (the GPS and phone antennas are both in the fin).

For everybody's info ... before May 2000, civilian GPS receivers have Selective Availability, which is an intentional degradation in accuracy to prevent hostile acts against the USA using their own techonolgy (the GPS system). Typical accuracy is between 20-50 meters. After 2000, Selective Availability has been eliminated, but the US Department of Defense now has the technology to localize the control system to deny GPS signals to selected areas in order to protect them. Typical accuracy for a civilian receiver is now within 10-20 meters.

*cesar, masyado namang nakakaiyak yung 1km-10km error ... even my cheap Navman can accurately tell my position within 20 feet. Today's entry-level SatNav systems from Garmin, Navman and TomTom will guide you literally from door-to-door addresses.

[duke9631]

Hello Everyone,

I just finished an In-Car GPS Project with voice Navigation and tested in Ayala Alabang. It is a standard Din Device That I have installed in my honda city. I would like solicit your inputs if there is enough interest for this product here in the philippines plus a cellpone-based GPS.

Please click the link below to see the video and feel free to comment on my blog.

http://philgpsusers.blogspot.com/200...a-alabang.html


Thanks!

Earl

[userfriendly]

If it works as advertised, plus you can update the map and fix bugs why not. Provided that price is reasonable.

[archerwin]

this is a pretty good map.....

http://www.mapcentral.ph/mapcentral/...?event=MapHome

can this be used with gPS?

[StraightSix]

duke9631, honest opinion lang ... not every car has an extra DIN slot, which makes your market smaller. And between a DIN-installation versus a transferable/portable unit, I'd choose the latter. Iwas-nakaw, and I can use it on another car without much trouble. Or even while walking.

Now if it's cellphone-based, you'll have a bigger potential market. GPS receivers are getting cheaper ... software/map combo na lang. And with the Nokia N95, you can forget about the receiver because it has one built-in .

[duke9631]

salamat sa mga comments nyo.

Straight six, salamat sa opinion. Yup I agree with you. The DIN-size device just serves as a tech-proof of concept for usage scenarios para sa mga pinoy... Not yet the prouct. it should be tablet size na puedeng ilipat sa mga sasakyan.

Handheld and in-car have different usage scenarios also. Im interested to know your comments on products such as Mapking and Guide Me.

Have you tried those products? What are things that can be improved on, from those products.

Are there UI issues, perfomance issues. Or just simple non-updated maps?


Hope to hear your comments!


Regards,
Duke

PS. Yup, N95 is cool!!

[StraightSix]

Handheld and in-car have different usage scenarios also. Im interested to know your comments on products such as Mapking and Guide Me.

Have you tried those products? What are things that can be improved on, from those products.

Are there UI issues, perfomance issues. Or just simple non-updated maps?

Sorry, I haven't tried Mapking nor Guide Me yet. I don't think they're available in the market where I am (UK), where the ones I've tried were the low-end makes from Garmin, TomTom, Navman and Sony ... so I'll just limit my opinion on updated maps.

An updated map is not that important to me (to an extent) as long as the system has a re-routing feature. Missing a turn because the road turned out to be newly-designated as one-way shouldn't be a problem ... nor using a new road not yet on the map database. As soon as you hit a familiar road the re-routing function should kick in and you're back on track. Unless you're trying to navigate to a road (end destination) not yet on your map .

[duke9631]

haha.. sorry for assuming that you are here.

My project aims to be the "localized version" of those you'v tried. Rerouting feature can easily be incorporated. Thanks for the comments.
It happens to me also when my software tells me turn in a place where it is blocked by local traffic enforcers..

Im working on a nokia cellphone-based-project also. A phone with GPS or GPS hardware is useless if it they dont have localized maps (and software if needed).

If you have more insights please do share them. You can also post in my blog if you wish.


http://www.philgpsusers.blogspot.com/


Regards,

duke9631

[duke9631]

I don't know if some of you have read this because posted this in another thread:

Hello Everyone,


I just finished an In-Car GPS Project with voice Navigation and tested in Ayala Alabang. It is a standard Din Device That I have installed in my honda city. I would like solicit your inputs if there is enough interest for this product here in the philippines plus a cellpone-based GPS.

Please click the link below to see the video and feel free to comment on my blog.

http://philgpsusers.blogspot.com/200...a-alabang.html


Thanks!

Earl

[StraightSix]

Mapapahaba nang husto ito, if you want my opinion on satnav systems, hehe. And I'm not really up to date with those available today. But don't think that I'm not impressed with what your group has accomplished. If you can put in more features and make it work on Nokia's, you have a winner.

Foremost on my mind is its routing function. Like most systems today, it has to have a choice between taking the quickest or shortest route. As you know, the quickest route may mean a farther route using wider roads ... but on times like rush hours, it's the opposite. Some systems give you control of preference over highways and city streets, and the avoidance of toll roads although toll roads can be easily bypassed with rerouting.

Auto-rerouting is a must for me, for the reasons I gave in an earlier post. And in the absence of a system in the Philippines like TMC (Traffic Message Channel) - one of its features is to send data to satnav systems, showing traffic hotspots and marking it - I'll be needing a way to manually mark on the map an "avoid-area" due to heavy traffic or other reasons like, someone I owe money from lives on that street .

And the end point of navigation ... it'll be nice to navigate from door to door. But the inclusion of house numbers and road preference as I understand depends heavily on the map database, so I hope you're using a very good map

[duke9631]

Hey Straight Six,

Thank you very much for your useful comments. We have been brainstorming on the features you mentioned. Thanks for confirming the need.

Thanks also for posting in my blog. Salamat!


- Earl