Headlight Questions:

[mackkcam]

tanong ko lng po:
1. May Shop ba na nagccustomize ng headlight Assembly? ung Lens kc ng Car ko is the Old One (frosted Type) i would like it to have a crystal type of lens or atleast where can I buy a Lens for my Honda City EXi??

2. if I would install an Overwattage Headlight Bulb, lets say 80++, do i must adjust also the Alternator? are there no issues about it? (magssaksak na rin kc ako ng mga Audio system eh, so i have to change my battery, but still, pati ba ung alternator?)

3. if i go installed a overwatt HL bulb, and change the socket to a Ceramic, will it affect anything? (sabi rin kc ng Mekanik, malutong na daw ung mga sockets ko, so if ever, issabay ko na rin palitan ung mga Bulbs)

Thanks guys

[1D4LV]

tanong ko lng po:
1. May Shop ba na nagccustomize ng headlight Assembly? ung Lens kc ng Car ko is the Old One (frosted Type) i would like it to have a crystal type of lens or atleast where can I buy a Lens for my Honda City EXi??

2. if I would install an Overwattage Headlight Bulb, lets say 80++, do i must adjust also the Alternator? are there no issues about it? (magssaksak na rin kc ako ng mga Audio system eh, so i have to change my battery, but still, pati ba ung alternator?)

3. if i go installed a overwatt HL bulb, and change the socket to a Ceramic, will it affect anything? (sabi rin kc ng Mekanik, malutong na daw ung mga sockets ko, so if ever, issabay ko na rin palitan ung mga Bulbs)

Thanks guys

1. i really don't know, but i am also interested. i would want to change my HL to projector type from the crystal type.
2. you don't need to change the alternator, but you would have to upgrade the wires as well as the sockets.
3. yes. kung malutong na, malapit ng masira yan. you really don't want to go out with your headlights suddenly busted specially if at night and if it rains. isabay mo na.

if you will change to a higher wattage bulb, you need to change the wires as mentioned above, the sockets to ceramic and the relay.

hth.

[mbeige]

1. Replace entire headlight assembly. Why?

a. Frosted lens has smooth reflectors. Crystal type headlamps have clear lens, but staggered reflectors. Basically the beam pattern of a frosted lamp relies on the lens, and that of the crystal lamp relies on the reflector.

b. Swapping a frosted headlamp lens into the clear crystal type lens is making it more dangerous because you're losing the beam pattern, and this beam pattern is critical to illuminating key points down the road like road signs, foreground light, and some overhead light. It's best to swap both the lens and the reflector, essentially swapping whole headlamp assemblies.

2. Changing to overwattage bulbs will require a beefier alternator especially if you have changed your stock stereo and added amps, sub/s, etc. Relays and wiring replacement is also necessary. It's all at Daniel Sterling's site. Did you read his article on it?

3. Ceramic sockets will prevent the heat from ruining the connections that plastic sockets have so it's an ideal modification to be done.

Lastly don't forget to aim your lights. Like I said before overwattage bulbs are already producing much more glare than stock wattage bulbs so aiming is critical to get the light onto the road ahead of you and not into the eyes of other drivers or pedestrians.

Have you installed a lighter shade of tint?

[mackkcam]

so replacing my stock bulb into a Overwattage Bulb is Ok, but also I need to change the Socket and relays.. No effect sya sa alternator right? but OT: I need to upgrade my alternator when Subs/s and AMplfiers are installed in my car?

naicip ko kc ung 4300 bulb sa Xenon-lights, un ata ung version nila ng All-weather eh,

*mbeige:
bali chrome black on all sides pati sa rear lighter shade lng ung sa harap, why you asked?

OT: my Car is a Honda City Exi 1997 Model, could you tell me if the Lens for the headlight is the same as this one: (kindly Check the Site and see Image MB W202)
http://xenon-bulbs.com/products.html
I haven't heard pa rin kc sa kanila eh, Thanks....
PS:
Sorry kung di ko mailgay ung Image ng City Exi...

[mbeige]

so replacing my stock bulb into a Overwattage Bulb is Ok, but also I need to change the Socket and relays.. No effect sya sa alternator right? but OT: I need to upgrade my alternator when Subs/s and AMplfiers are installed in my car?

Please read your previous thread about your headlights.

What did I say?

Read all about it www.danielsternlighting.com

Going overwattage means you'll be taxing your alternator more than it was designed for. Upgrading the alternator, adding relays and higher gauge wiring usually helps.

How many times do you have to ask the same question? I asked about your tint because I recall that thread that you have windshield tint as well. Having tint, night driving problems and planning on swapping headlamp parts so they're rendered useless on rainy nights when the beam pattern will simply become scattered light is a bit too much. Calm down and just have your headlamps replaced, cleaned, or upgrade the wiring and sockets as well as the alternator so you can use overwattage bulbs aimed properly.

Without any pics of your car nobody can tell except you what headlamps you really have. Also, ano ba talaga, 1997 or 1996 Honda City?

well 1st things 1st, I have a vision problem when at night time, parang malabo na ang Tingin ko, di namna sobra pero parang sa madilim, i'll just with the slow gear kahit na freeway ung dinadaanan ko. additional pa, i think ung headlight bulbs ko is worning out.. medyo malabo na xa, parang malapit ng mapundi, Im thinking fof changin my bulbs with a new one.

the thing is, I need suggestions on a bulb, that would have a good and bright light, Im thinking to have Osram or Philips? also, i have a Frosted lamp, ( im using a 1996 car) so Any Suggestions? di daw kc applicable ang white bulb (HID LOOk) sa Headlight ko eh, kc nga Frosted daw.. need help on this ASAP!!

OT: meron bang Crystal lamp for a 96 Honda City Exi? if yes, saan?? how much? may contact Number ka? anung name ng shop/store?

Thanks tsikoteers...!!

Why do you ask what headlamp you have if you already know yours is the frosted lamp?

[mackkcam]

Please read your previous thread about your headlights.

What did I say?



How many times do you have to ask the same question? I asked about your tint because I recall that thread that you have windshield tint as well. Having tint, night driving problems and planning on swapping headlamp parts so they're rendered useless on rainy nights when the beam pattern will simply become scattered light is a bit too much. Calm down and just have your headlamps replaced, cleaned, or upgrade the wiring and sockets as well as the alternator so you can use overwattage bulbs aimed properly.

Without any pics of your car nobody can tell except you what headlamps you really have. Also, ano ba talaga, 1997 or 1996 Honda City?



Why do you ask what headlamp you have if you already know yours is the frosted lamp?

NaPost ko na pala toh, i forgot that I have a previously posted Thread about this, Im just Clearing things up..

its a 1997 Honda City - akala ko kc its a 96, kc sabi ng tito ko, pero nung nakita ko sa OR 1997 pala sya...

etoh ung HeadLight ko mismo, sorry, Blocked kc sa Office ang File hosting na websites eh:


All i want is to make my Headlights have a Brighter Light, so that It may help me when im driving During Rain showers or even at very dark places, So i have made Up my mind to Install a Over wattage HL Bulb and replace the SOcket to a Ceramic Type one

[washburn]

tanong ko lng po:
1. May Shop ba na nagccustomize ng headlight Assembly? ung Lens kc ng Car ko is the Old One (frosted Type) i would like it to have a crystal type of lens or atleast where can I buy a Lens for my Honda City EXi??

I think may gumagawa nga nito pero matrabaho to pati baka mapamahal kapa why not buy surplus nalang? o kaya palinis mo nalang ang current headlamp mo

2. if I would install an Overwattage Headlight Bulb, lets say 80++, do i must adjust also the Alternator? are there no issues about it? (magssaksak na rin kc ako ng mga Audio system eh, so i have to change my battery, but still, pati ba ung alternator?)

IMO di mo pa muna kailangan magpalit ng alternator try to evaluate your system first before ka magpalit,
Sa car ko nakakabit 80/85 osram, at sound setup 1 amp,1 sub, 1 set seps
ang kailangan mo lang sugurong palitan e yung sockets mo sa light

3. if i go installed a overwatt HL bulb, and change the socket to a Ceramic, will it affect anything? (sabi rin kc ng Mekanik, malutong na daw ung mga sockets ko, so if ever, issabay ko na rin palitan ung mga Bulbs)

Changing your sockets will not affect anything, may benefits nga ito e, kasi higher the wattage mas lalong mainit to, biruin mo yung stock socket nga naluluto na sa OEM bulbs e, kaya pag magpalit ka ng higher wattage para safe palit ka narin ng cermic sockets kayang kaya pa itong i-DIY

[mackkcam]

Ah ok, cge cge, salamat mga dude sa Help about my problem, cguro as i have said, papalinis na lng ako, tpos kung ung isang Headlight di tlga makasama ppalitan ko na ung buong assembly nun (may 1 pc lng kaya? stanley na brand kc ung nasa kabila eh, [Yes!, ung isa stanley, ung isa Stock, ung stock ang may problem eh]) cguro mapapalitan ko na ung ilaw ko by this time, sa pagdating ng sweldo.

Follow Up:
Anu ba magandang Bulb for my frosted type of lens, gus2 ko kc yung malakas ang Buga, at maliwanag tlga kahit naka Low lng, hirap tlga kc ako pag may rain tpos gabi pa... All weather? any comments about this? or meron pang ibang option?

[mbeige]

Whatever you get do not use Long Life type bulbs. They have less light output but longer life (hence the name).

Kung plastic yung lens mo (katukin mo) see if plastic cleaners work. I used Meguiar's PlastiX.

Without knowing the condition of your car, how high your overwattage lights will go, I advised to replace the alternator with a higher one. But like somebody mentioned you can choose not to, but for peace of mind, why not? After all that's what you're aiming for when driving at night di ba?

By the way would you happen to know if the driverside headlamp has been replaced? That looks like it's for a RHD country with the beam cutoff on the left side, not on the right side as it should be. You can confirm this if you park against a wall and take a pic of the beam pattern it throws out. It should be __/ __/ but yours could have \__ __/ if the left side only has been replaced? I ask because this will not help solve your problem because it illuminates the oncoming side of traffic, instead of the shoulder of the road. Then installing overwattage bulbs might actually glare them even more. Just a precaution on your part.

[mackkcam]

*mbeige

hehe, mukhang napalitan na sya, kc may tatak na Stanley ung nsa Driver's side, ung sa kabila wala...

yes, napncn ko nga rin na \_ ung nsa driver side, parang ganito ung nakita ko dati \_ \ /, un ung problem nung passenger side na HL sabog sya for short.. sabay sabay ko kasing ipapagawa yan (assembly for the passenger side HL change to bnew, Change Bulbs and alignment so dapat ang alaignment is _/\_ganyan ba?

hindi naman cguro masakit kung 80+ lng ung wattage ng bulbs nakknin ko, may marerecommend ka ba na brand (and also the Model) of the Bulbs? Ok sana kung same color ng Stock ng honda na bulb, pero mas bright...

Add: mas better if I change the Pair na kaya? para atleast same sila na bnew?

[washburn]

Whatever you get do not use Long Life type bulbs. They have less light output but longer life (hence the name).

Kung plastic yung lens mo (katukin mo) see if plastic cleaners work. I used Meguiar's PlastiX.

Without knowing the condition of your car, how high your overwattage lights will go, I advised to replace the alternator with a higher one. But like somebody mentioned you can choose not to, but for peace of mind, why not? After all that's what you're aiming for when driving at night di ba?

By the way would you happen to know if the driverside headlamp has been replaced? That looks like it's for a RHD country with the beam cutoff on the left side, not on the right side as it should be. You can confirm this if you park against a wall and take a pic of the beam pattern it throws out. It should be __/ __/ but yours could have __ __/ if the left side only has been replaced? I ask because this will not help solve your problem because it illuminates the oncoming side of traffic, instead of the shoulder of the road. Then installing overwattage bulbs might actually glare them even more. Just a precaution on your part.

wow very informative sir! lagi kasi sinasabi ng bro ko na hindi pantay ilaw ko kasi __/ __/ buga niya tama pala

[mbeige]

*mbeige
yes, napncn ko nga rin na _ ung nsa driver side, parang ganito ung nakita ko dati _ /, un ung problem nung passenger side na HL sabog sya for short.. sabay sabay ko kasing ipapagawa yan (assembly for the passenger side HL change to bnew, Change Bulbs and alignment so dapat ang alaignment is _/_ganyan ba?

hindi naman cguro masakit kung 80+ lng ung wattage ng bulbs nakknin ko, may marerecommend ka ba na brand (and also the Model) of the Bulbs? Ok sana kung same color ng Stock ng honda na bulb, pero mas bright...

Add: mas better if I change the Pair na kaya? para atleast same sila na bnew?

Change the pair for peace of mind, yes same na brand new.

The light pattern should be __/ __/

Make sure the headlamps have the lens pattern with the diagonal on the left side, so that the beam cutoff will be on the right side (remember the headlamps work through a single point so everything is reversed. The key to this pattern is to illuminate the immediate foreground right in front of your vehicle, a bit to the left side, and the beam cutoff on the right side is for illuminating the sidewalk, road signs, etc that may be hard to see. This also allows you to prevent glare to oncoming drivers by having no beam cutoff on the left.

Look at these two pics. The standard headlamp of sealed beam (1) vs H4 bulbs with correct lenses (2). Imagine you're driving and this is the beam pattern the headlamps throw in front of the car. Notice how the 2nd one has more foreground light and illumination to the right side, while at the same time preventing glare on the left side.



Both are on low beam but look at the difference the H4 with the correct lenses (Cibie) deliver.

Read all about it here:

http://dastern.torque.net/Photometry/575.html#SEALED

Look at mine, the cutoff is on the left side, car's point of view (right side in the pic)



No wonder hirap na hirap ka! Your headlamps aren't the correct type (should be for driving on the left side of the road). Plus your right side is sabog like you said.

Just get a brand new pair just make sure correct type na siya and then aim them properly. Osram bulbs are good, there are numerous threads about Osram all-weather types. They're not the white type of light you see but the standard color. This is good for wet conditions. The white bulbs make it harder for you because our eyes cannot process the bluish tint as easy as it can the yellow/standard bulb colors.

[mackkcam]

Ic, blocked sa office ung image mo eh, check ko sa bahay mmya,

Ok ba Osram Silverstars? 55/60 ba un? or 80++?? anu kulay ng light na un? hb4 un di bah? check ko na rin sa net

[mbeige]

There can be many types of bulbs. Check which is for your car and get the one that has your desired wattage and color. All-weather is standard color, maybe a bit more yellow than normal but that's good for the rainy season.

The 80++ are sometimes a myth!!! You might be buying a standard wattage bulb but it throws out light output "comparable to 80W" or something to that effect. Make sure it says the correct wattage on the base of the bulbs!

[HyBrideVo]

im planning on getting the narva 85 watt all weather h1's for my fozzie but leaning more towards the narva 110 watts all weather. harness and relay kit is a must of course but im a bit concerned if the 110 watts might burn my lenses?

[mbeige]

If you have metal reflectors, you should be fine. Same with glass lenses. If you have the plastic lenses, you will eventually burn them too with those 110W bulbs.

The housing is another matter altogether. If it's plastic get ceramic sockets. Surely the lock rings for the bulbs might burn eventually.

Why not just stick with the 85W? Aren't they enough? I have stock lights on mine and have no problems driving. The only problem I have is with our '90 300TE with the US lights that throw a broad beam of light in front just like fog lamps! Stupid if you ask me, I have a hard time with that and converting to Euro lamps is much more expensive because I can't just swap in E-code type lenses like what I did in my w123 US version (with the Bosch lens pictured above).

Look at how poorly made the aftermarket headlamps can be. These are Depo headlamps on a w203 C class look at the area right in front of the projector lens there's some burning from the reflected light!

[HyBrideVo]

^^Damn i thought Depo's are better now well maybe iim wrong hehe..

i'll probably have to settle with 85W that goes with the harness and heavy duty sockets. i haven't talked to daniel stern yet if he has a harness available for h1's.

Obviously, i don't want to go to the HID route that's why i wanted to try out the 110W bulbs. BTW, im getting all weather bulbs for my 9006 foglamps i'll probably staying with stock wattage on those. My 9005 high beams looks fine to me or should i get another pair like the +50 or +30 clear narva's?

[alwayz_yummy]

ko hahanap paring orig. LHD lights for my JDM lite... yung last model na nilabas dito, hirap maghanap ng LH-surplus...

as for bulbs-->im still using my 10-year old philips crystal vision na galing pa sa nissan maxima ng mom ko...60/55 lang, pero 110/100w output..

i prefer to buy branded halogens than those china brands(type-r/etc.) na nabibili mo sa ace... IPF/ original RAYBRIG (daming fake raybrigs) will last long...and di mo na kailangan palitan pa housing mo..if you are willing to spend 10K on HID-kit, 3-5 thou lang naman ang IPF/japan-raybrig/CATZ halogen bulb set....

pero have your headlight cleaned na muna, baka kailangan lang ng linis...shop ni sir impulzz & theveed, alam ko naglilinis kayo ng headlights right?

alternator--kung yung mga sinabi kong bulbs gagamitin mo, di na kailangan.. ang mahirap pa sa mumurahing "performance" bulb madaling pumutok! nakailan na yung kia pride ni mom,e...

sockets--kung yung mga tinukoy kong bulbs ang gagamitin mo, ok na din yang stock system..

another cheap good halogens are NARVA and WURTH...but IPF, japan-RAYBRIG, CATZ are the best performance halogen around...above the quality of most taiwan/china HIDs [a..

[mbeige]

^^Damn i thought Depo's are better now well maybe iim wrong hehe..

i'll probably have to settle with 85W that goes with the harness and heavy duty sockets. i haven't talked to daniel stern yet if he has a harness available for h1's.

Obviously, i don't want to go to the HID route that's why i wanted to try out the 110W bulbs. BTW, im getting all weather bulbs for my 9006 foglamps i'll probably staying with stock wattage on those. My 9005 high beams looks fine to me or should i get another pair like the +50 or +30 clear narva's?

Depo lights are supposedly good, for aftermarket lights. Email Daniel Stern, he's very comprehensive with his replies. Just make sure you fill him in with the specifics like what car, year and model, environment you mostly drive in, etc. so he can advise you properly.

All weather bulbs for fog lamps are good, some prefer selective yellow light; either way is fine. Fog lamps can also be aimed, by the way. You could try the +50 or +30 Narva bulbs, essentially the brand doesn't matter between Narva, Philips, Osram, etc like Daniel Stern mentioned (under products --> bulbs) because they're more or less similar.

I'm running Hella stock wattage H4 lamps on my H4 conversions. Masmaganda pa buga ng ilaw ng '83 300D ko kaysa sa '90 300TE for the reason that the lens has a great design to throw the beam of light at the right areas where it's critical. The angle of cut off is just perfect for reflecting street signs on a dark road, lahat hanggang sa next block kita ko on a clear night. This is still with stock bulbs! Of course the roads here are much better than they are there, but that should give a good reference point as to how much more you want to improve your lights and how much is too much.

Yummy is right, avoid the cheap brand bulbs. For peace of mind go with reliable brand names like the ones mentioned above. Hella and Bosch are also good, as are Sylvania bulbs, though I prefer the former to the latter simply because here in the US, Sylvania is under Osram but with a different market, and the Sylvania Silverstars aren't the same Osram Silverstars.

I think the best way to go about with bulbs is to know that they are consumable items and eventually cannot be reused and have to be thrown away. So with that, get cheap, reliable branded name bulbs and from there narrow them down to the wattage, type and color you want (hopefully something that can illuminate something in the rain at least). The reason is that if you get the really expensive ones and they expire sooner than you'd expect, sayang lang nagastos mo kasi they usually won't accept returned bulbs. The key is in both the reflector and refractor/lens of the headlamp assemblies. Newer cars rely on the reflector, while older types rely on the lens for the beam pattern. That's also the reason why I suggested against swapping the crystal headlamp lens (which is just clear) for the housing of the old "frosted" lamp (which is also clear). All you'll get is scattered light akin to the beam pattern from a flashlight. You'll really need one or the other (the refractive lens, or the reflectors from the crystal type headlamp).

[HyBrideVo]

thanks for the much added info mbeige