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  1. Join Date
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    #111
    i filled up 42 liters last tuesday at Petron SBMA (dun sa malapit sa duty free) ok siya sa una, lalo na since P4 cheaper per liter ang diesel than metro manila price. then last wednesday i filled up again another 23 liters on my way back to Manila. as soon as i got to the intersection going to Tipo expressway nagloko na engine ko, biglang kulang sa hatak. the engine had to rev up to 3000 rpm to get to 100 kph, and the acceleration was sooooo sluggish. also it did not want to shift due to the very low torque. after entering sctex i pulled over and stopped the engine, then started it up again, just to check if it was a problem with the ecu. no change, engine was still sluggish. i suspected water in the tank so i pulled over again, put it in neutral and revved up the engine to 4500 rpm for about 3 minutes, then went on my way again. problem solved. there must have been enough water that it choked up the fuel filter. i already drained the filter, did not find any water so it must have been burned already at sctex and nlex. anyway, next time i am in sbma again i'll just go to ptt ot total!

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    #112
    FC difference of Caltex Diesel and Petron Diesel Max based on Ford Everest MT 2012 XLT:

    100% City Driving - 8.225 km/l using Caltex Diesel
    100% City Driving - 8.575 km/l using Petron Diesel Max

    Average from 4 consecutive Full Tanks, a 4.25% difference from Caltex and Petron. Same route and time everyday, Pasig-Makati (10-11AM) Makati-QC-Pasig (8-10PM). I don't notice any difference when idle or during acceleration.

    Haven't tried Shell Fuel Save Diesel yet and Petron Diesel Max is the cheapest Diesel I have seen so far (with 3% rebate from BPI-Petron Mastercard). I doubt that using Petron Turbo Diesel or Shell V-Power Diesel would increase my FC by 10% which would compensate for the price difference between the premium and ordinary variants. I would still try them out and would probably start with Petron Turbo Diesel or Shell Fuel Save Diesel when I find a station that sells them at a lower price than others.

    Highway Driving - 11.0 km/l Petron Diesel Max (85% Highway Driving)

    More detailed fuel logs at kazmuth's profile | Fuelly

  3. Join Date
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    #113
    Mga bro, walan ba problema kung mag halo 1/4 na Diesel Max pati turbo diesel?

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    #114
    FYI di na po Euro5 compliant ang Seaoil since 2yrs ago pa, they failed to renew contract with the supplier, di kaya expense ng euro5 makipagsabayan sa other diesels na Euro2 lang lower cost.

    Unioil still Euro4 compliant, cleanest option at present. Lesser smoke talaga if almost no smoke at all based on experience.

    Big3 - Euro2 only, taka ko nun mausok, dami nagsasabi nasa quality of diesel daw talaga, may mga bagong montero nga mausok wala pa plaka, tama nga when i shifted to unioil di na mausok, I add 200ml 2T oil per 50L diesel to compensate less sulfur ng Euro4/5 na need ng older engines for lubrication etc.



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  5. Join Date
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    #115
    Quote Originally Posted by ssaloon View Post
    18.70-18.90 na ata pump prices ngayon.

    wew.back in 2004 ang mura ng diesel!!! ngayun nasa 46 pesos dito sa negros

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    #116
    39.90 nalang diesel dito sa Sucat rd.

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    #117
    Quote Originally Posted by justinlorenz99 View Post
    wew.back in 2004 ang mura ng diesel!!! ngayun nasa 46 pesos dito sa negros
    ako natutong magmaneho 7petot lang ang diesel... 10petot ang gaso... heheheh...

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    #118
    has anyone noticed since diesel prices were slashed, fuel ecomomy has suffered too. i used to get 700 kms a tank. but on my last 2 i only average 620kms. daily route is still the same, btw i use shell fuel save diesel.

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    #119
    Well we could all vouch in for our individual experiences but at the end of the day this will still not be conclusive as there are a lot of factors affecting each batch of fuel testing on your rigs. Until somebody could do it in a controlled manner with differrent samples of each players (caltex/shell/Petron) plus a detailed laboratory tests of each fuel then only then we could conclude.

    It all boils down on the amount of (energy BTU/lb) per Liter on it. example ASTM D4868 Calorific Value (HHV & LHV) on that value if there is a big discrepancy among each samples then it could easily shows which will be best..and of course to be best amongst other Parameteres i.e Calculated Cetane Index, ash content, sulfur, water & sediments, FAME Content, Methyl Laureate.. etc. should also be factored in.
    Last edited by Jiggs; June 17th, 2012 at 10:04 AM. Reason: typhograhical error correction.

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    #120
    Tried Shell Fuelsave diesel, mahina hatak, shutoff shudder is very noticeable
    I normally fill up using Phoenix Magma diesel as I can get it for Php38.xx something (gov discount), and it pulls better than Shell's
    Petron is better than the two, but of course mas mahal hehe. No experience on Caltex's yet.

    btw TD27 engine.

    edit: Shell Magallanes, Phoenix Fort Bonifacio, Petron Fort Bonifacio

where's d best diesel? caltex - petron - shell ???