where's d best diesel? caltex - petron - shell ???

[jut703]

Ive been told kasi by a ford specialist na na trace daw talaga nila ang rootcause kung madami nasisirang ranger is maduming fuel daw. Specifically shell fuelsave. Di nga ako maka paniwala agad eh. Baka dahil euro2 pa nuon or anything. Im not really sure. Kaka fill lang namin nga fuelsave din

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BS from your Ford "specialist".

In case you didn't know, all petroleum brands share fuel. Shell gets from Petron and Total on top of their own supply from Batangas in order to serve their Manila stations.

If you've seen how stringent Shell's product quality testing is from the depot, you'd know that they meet gov't mandated specs to the letter.

The usual cause for dirty fuel is a poorly maintained station - the tanks could have sediment build-up, or even water intrusion. But for most stations in Manila that are company owned, operational standards are at a very high level so contamination is unlikely.

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[miguel20]

BS from your Ford "specialist".

In case you didn't know, all petroleum brands share fuel. Shell gets from Petron and Total on top of their own supply from Batangas in order to serve their Manila stations.

If you've seen how stringent Shell's product quality testing is from the depot, you'd know that they meet gov't mandated specs to the letter.

The usual cause for dirty fuel is a poorly maintained station - the tanks could have sediment build-up, or even water intrusion. But for most stations in Manila that are company owned, operational standards are at a very high level so contamination is unlikely.

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Kaya nga eh. We also have our very own depot here in cagayan de oro. And knowing the company itself.. i dont think it would be that lame for it to nat have quality standards hahaha tangina experts nayan

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[monty_GTV]

BS from your Ford "specialist".

In case you didn't know, all petroleum brands share fuel. Shell gets from Petron and Total on top of their own supply from Batangas in order to serve their Manila stations.

If you've seen how stringent Shell's product quality testing is from the depot, you'd know that they meet gov't mandated specs to the letter.

The usual cause for dirty fuel is a poorly maintained station - the tanks could have sediment build-up, or even water intrusion. But for most stations in Manila that are company owned, operational standards are at a very high level so contamination is unlikely.

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agree with sir jut. i work in shell although in upstream projects and quality along with safety are paramount. there is no best, just fill up at well maintained gas stations.

[beetlebmble]

BS from your Ford "specialist".

In case you didn't know, all petroleum brands share fuel. Shell gets from Petron and Total on top of their own supply from Batangas in order to serve their Manila stations.

If you've seen how stringent Shell's product quality testing is from the depot, you'd know that they meet gov't mandated specs to the letter.

The usual cause for dirty fuel is a poorly maintained station - the tanks could have sediment build-up, or even water intrusion. But for most stations in Manila that are company owned, operational standards are at a very high level so contamination is unlikely.

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Shell for me good performance compared sa petron ,both low and high rpm smooth ang shell.. what I like sa petron is sobrang tahimik ng idling.

[minicarph]

Ive been told kasi by a ford specialist na na trace daw talaga nila ang rootcause kung madami nasisirang ranger is maduming fuel daw. Specifically shell fuelsave. Di nga ako maka paniwala agad eh. Baka dahil euro2 pa nuon or anything. Im not really sure. Kaka fill lang namin nga fuelsave din

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this is true. madume talaga diesel dito sa'tin. kung minsan even if you gas sa suki mo nasa sosyal na area, I gas up in White Plains Petron or San Miguel Petron, wala din eh. Yun Santa Fe ko ang ingay-ingay na ngaun parang crosswind, considering ang tahimik nito dati. now with my ranger, 3 months ago, tahimik yun makina nun eh ngaun paingay na din.

madumi talaga diesel diba nga hinuhuli ngaun sila kasi instead na ethanol meron sila nilalagay na chemical na nol din sa huli can't remember. so if those rangers are bogging down, I believe diesel is the culprit lalo na kung provincial based ka. I have a friend who works in Petron.

Ang modus daw ng mga Petron Franchisees is to get the Petron name pero bumibile sila sa mga naglalako ng mga unmarked tanker na adulterated diesel. Meron daw barko na nagbabagsak dito from other Countries, usually China na maduming diesel at mas mura eto, that's why tempted ang mga Fuel station operators to buy from this bogus trucks.
yun recent investigation nila, halos 70% ng fuel stations sa probinsya compromised. eh ano naman daw gagawin ng Petron. if they force closure, eh sarado 70% ng Petron stations so they just penalize na lang daw. btw, it's not only petron ha, even shell from the provinces buy from these trucks. so pag nakakita kayo ng truck na unmarked pero laman fuel, yun na yun.

we live in interesting times indeed.

[jut703]

this is true. madume talaga diesel dito sa'tin. kung minsan even if you gas sa suki mo nasa sosyal na area, I gas up in White Plains Petron or San Miguel Petron, wala din eh. Yun Santa Fe ko ang ingay-ingay na ngaun parang crosswind, considering ang tahimik nito dati. now with my ranger, 3 months ago, tahimik yun makina nun eh ngaun paingay na din.

madumi talaga diesel diba nga hinuhuli ngaun sila kasi instead na ethanol meron sila nilalagay na chemical na nol din sa huli can't remember. so if those rangers are bogging down, I believe diesel is the culprit lalo na kung provincial based ka. I have a friend who works in Petron.

Ang modus daw ng mga Petron Franchisees is to get the Petron name pero bumibile sila sa mga naglalako ng mga unmarked tanker na adulterated diesel. Meron daw barko na nagbabagsak dito from other Countries, usually China na maduming diesel at mas mura eto, that's why tempted ang mga Fuel station operators to buy from this bogus trucks.
yun recent investigation nila, halos 70% ng fuel stations sa probinsya compromised. eh ano naman daw gagawin ng Petron. if they force closure, eh sarado 70% ng Petron stations so they just penalize na lang daw. btw, it's not only petron ha, even shell from the provinces buy from these trucks. so pag nakakita kayo ng truck na unmarked pero laman fuel, yun na yun.

we live in interesting times indeed.

Terribly, terribly misinformed. I don't usually reply to trolls but someone else might believe your bullshit and I hate misinformation.

Those unmarked tankers, they also get from Petron, Shell, Caltex, Total, and Unioil depots. Those are wholesale distributors - they get practically the same product as retail stations, but at much lower prices.

They then sell to generic stations, but occasionally to branded stations as well (at least you got that part correct). Tama naman kasi - the usual contention of the dealer is, "bakit ang mahal ng benta ni Petron sakin, pero kay wholesaler X mas mura, eh pareho lang naman ng produkto. So kay wholesaler X nalang ako kukuha."

70% is utter BS. Based on firsthand experience, it's much closer to 10% - meron talagang mga branded stations in the province na "kumukuha sa labas" as we call it, but konti lang.

Also, smuggled fuel does not come from China. Yes there are direct smugglers (there are also technical smugglers but that's another issue). Often, it comes from SG/Korea/Indonesia/Malaysia because these are the trading hubs and refineries near us. However, most of the dumping comes not from these sources but from the wholesalers mentioned above, which get their fuel from the major players anyway.

Another source of adulterated fuel which is more rampant than physically smuggled fuel is what we call "paihi". Eto yung fuel na ninanakaw ng drivers from the tankers and then they resell them at a lower price. Every 20,000L tanker, mga 50-200L yung ninanakaw para hindi halata. Then ireresell.

If you pass by Roman Highway along Bataan marami kang makikitang trapal sa gilid, yun yung cover ng mga paihian. All it takes is 5 minutes and poof bawas na laman ng delivery. Ang talo dito is yung station na dapat dedeliveran nung tanker.

What happens sometimes for gasoline is mas malaki yung ninanakaw (more than 1000L) tapos papalitan ng methanol because it's much cheaper. So pag chineck ng station, hindi nabawasan yung laman ng tanke kasi yung ninakaw, napalitan na. This can cause serious damage to engines because engines are not designed to run on methanol which can corrode fuel lines. The DOE-accepted level of methanol is 0.1%. I've seen cases as high as 10% methanol.

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[sirkosero]

Yan din sabi ng "expert" mechanic samin na walang proper training.

Isa din sa sinuggest nya is tanggalin ang thermostat dahil mainit sa pilipinas, stick to monograde oil, petron mo40 is the best, wag gagamit ng coolant and instead tap water lang.

Syempre mas magaling sya kesa sa mga engineers na nagdesign ng sasakyan and nagmamaintain ng fuel stations.

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[benchph1]

Is there still biodiesel around with corn ethanol ?

back when the family still had our 01 Gen1 carnival nagpapakarga ako dun. I even forgot the name of the small player gas station na blended na ang diesel nila with ethanol. Amoy "french fries" ang exhaust. Lol i kid you not. And ang ganda ng takbo of course


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[wavecxs]

slightly OT. diesel prices in silang, I think up to Tagaytay, is 28 last time we were there.

Then Unioil has that 2 pesos off from SNR, so it's also 26 pesos 😀

[Stigg ma]

question po sa usapang pa ihi: methanol is better than ethanol po ba? methanol is cheaper than ethanol? methanol is less damaging (corrosive) than ethanol?

[jut703]

question po sa usapang pa ihi: methanol is better than ethanol po ba? methanol is cheaper than ethanol? methanol is less damaging (corrosive) than ethanol?

No to all your questions.

DOE turns up heat on methanol-tainted fuel sellers | ABS-CBN News

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[mokong22]

Share ko lang konting alam ko sa diesel. 8yrs na ako retailer ng generic gas station. Dahil generic ako iba iba diesel dumatating sakin depende sa supplier ko kung san sya kukuha. Halos lahat ng diesel company even small player maganda na ang diesel nila malinaw na sya di gaya 7 years ago na petron and shell lang ang malinaw and malinis na diesel. Kadalasan ang diesel ko ngayon ay galing. Petron, shell, unioil, gt oil, s oil, jetti. Pinaka malinaw jan ay petron, shell. Yung caltex di ko pa na try wala yata kasi sila whole sale kaya di ako nakaka kuha ng caltex.

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[jut703]

Share ko lang konting alam ko sa diesel. 8yrs na ako retailer ng generic gas station. Dahil generic ako iba iba diesel dumatating sakin depende sa supplier ko kung san sya kukuha. Halos lahat ng diesel company even small player maganda na ang diesel nila malinaw na sya di gaya 7 years ago na petron and shell lang ang malinaw and malinis na diesel. Kadalasan ang diesel ko ngayon ay galing. Petron, shell, unioil, gt oil, s oil, jetti. Pinaka malinaw jan ay petron, shell. Yung caltex di ko pa na try wala yata kasi sila whole sale kaya di ako nakaka kuha ng caltex.

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Good observations. Parepareho nalang kasi ng pinagkukuhanan yan ngayon. Which area ka?

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[mokong22]

Good observations. Parepareho nalang kasi ng pinagkukuhanan yan ngayon. Which area ka?

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Isabela ako sir. Meron din ako branded gas station pero never ko hina luan yun ng galing labas. Mahirap na baka mahuli hehe

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[jut703]

Isabela ako sir. Meron din ako branded gas station pero never ko hina luan yun ng galing labas. Mahirap na baka mahuli hehe

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What brand bro? PM mo nalang sakin if ayaw mo post dito hehe.

Sa region 2 si UGMC namamayagpag ngayon. They get from Unioil/Chevron.

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[mokong22]

What brand bro? PM mo nalang sakin if ayaw mo post dito hehe.

Sa region 2 si UGMC namamayagpag ngayon. They get from Unioil/Chevron.

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Yap kumukuha din ako kay ugmc kay boss alvin hehe. kadalasan unioil or shell sa kanya. Kahapon gt oil daw ang diesel nya ewan ko san galing yung gt oil malinaw naman daw sabi tao ko. Pm ko sayo bro yung branded.

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[miguel20]

Guys.. does Caltex's TECHRON live up to its purpose or its all marketing bull?

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[Stigg ma]

Guys.. does Caltex's TECHRON live up to its purpose or its all marketing bull?

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techron is a patented chemical, meaning its composition is available for review... not unlike coke (non-patent) which has a secret ingredient...

the question is, was the techron added to the base fuel being dispensed?

[vvti2.0]

Guys.. does Caltex's TECHRON live up to its purpose or its all marketing bull?

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It is not a marketing bull... Totoo yan..

ask natin yung resident oiler dito..

[jut703]

Guys.. does Caltex's TECHRON live up to its purpose or its all marketing bull?

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It is not a marketing bull... Totoo yan..

ask natin yung resident oiler dito..

Techron works just as Shell's V-Power additives and Petron's XCS additives work. They all just have detergent properties that help prevent carbon buildup in your engine.

Thing is, even FuelSave or Xtra Advance also has detergent additives, just with lower concentrations. However, there are no long term studies that actually show a difference if you fill up exclusively with premium gasoline and with regular gasoline only.

Bottomline, if it feels good for you, then buy it. Your car most likely doesn't need it though.

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