E10.. Yes or No?

[benoy]

Mga sirs:
e quote ko lang nabasa ko sa isang site:

“As a solvent, ethanol attacks both the metallic and rubber based fuels lines, and other fuel system components.
“Ethanol also has an affinity to water that can result in corrosion of fuel tanks and fuel lines. Rust resulting from this corrosion can ultimately block the fuel supply rendering the engine inoperable. Water in the fuel system can also result in the engine hesitating and running roughly.”

Actually po meron syang pros and cons based sa site na nabasa ko. di ko lang po ma post dito lahat kse medyo mahaba. At di ko rin ma post site kse bago lang po ako dito sa tsikot. Pero sa pagkakaintindi ko po, ang pinaka pro sa kanya :
1. mas mura and
2. mas earth friendly kse other fuel.

hope this info could help all of us.

[Gen. Miting]

grabe mura ngaun ng E10 35.07. i just filled full tank. 50 liters 1.7++K lang. pang buong pasko na'to. i only consume about 30 liters/month

[webmiester]

Mga sirs:
e quote ko lang nabasa ko sa isang site:

“As a solvent, ethanol attacks both the metallic and rubber based fuels lines, and other fuel system components.
“Ethanol also has an affinity to water that can result in corrosion of fuel tanks and fuel lines. Rust resulting from this corrosion can ultimately block the fuel supply rendering the engine inoperable. Water in the fuel system can also result in the engine hesitating and running roughly.”

Actually po meron syang pros and cons based sa site na nabasa ko. di ko lang po ma post dito lahat kse medyo mahaba. At di ko rin ma post site kse bago lang po ako dito sa tsikot. Pero sa pagkakaintindi ko po, ang pinaka pro sa kanya :
1. mas mura and
2. mas earth friendly kse other fuel.

hope this info could help all of us.

Yung pros niya actually tend to be part of the question in this thread:

1) Mas mura nga ba if your car's mileage goes down?
2) Although CO2 levels go down, Ethanol based fuel is known to produce increased amounts of other gases such as asthma-inducing Ozone.

[XTO]

piso na lang lamang ng unleaded sa diesel. at mas mura naman ang E10 sa unleaded. mas mura pa tuloy ang E10 kesa sa diesel for private.

btw pwede ba E10 sa 7K carb engine ng Tamaraw FX ? TIA

[kumagbehota]

ayos nga e10 eh, mas mura sa diesel... medjo di pa ganun ka reliable yung carburador sa ethanol... wag na muna para safe

[testament11]

yun, kagaya nga ng tanong ni bro xto, pwede ba sa 7k carb engine fx ang e10? sayang naman kasi yun malaking matitipid pag gumamit ng e10

[C#@RD]

^^^^ sagot dun sa carb engines.

[step22]

just filled up kanina with e10 on my almost empty tank. 500 pesos =14.30 L.
What i noticed agad mas hirap cya bumatak di tulad when i use regular unleaded.
fuel consumption just the same.
but tingnan ko ulet bukas baka inaantok lang me kya magaan tapak sa gas.

[Taurus]

piso na lang lamang ng unleaded sa diesel. at mas mura naman ang E10 sa unleaded. mas mura pa tuloy ang E10 kesa sa diesel for private.

btw pwede ba E10 sa 7K carb engine ng Tamaraw FX ? TIA

Carb engines could not handle the ethanol content on E10, it is only good on EFI engines.

[XTO]

thanks Taurus and C#*RD

[Gen. Miting]

hindi advisable E10 sa carb. yun toyota corolla na 97 na non-injected ng kaibigan ko hirap umistart sa umaga

advisable lang ang E10 sa mga fuel-injected cars but still ask your local CASA to be sure. regarding Honda cars. Honda Philippines recommends E10 to all fuel-injected models kahit yun civic esi na '93.

mine is an almost 10 year old crv, works well with e10. there is however some slight loss of power as compared to unleaded pero ok lang naman, since the price hikes natuto na ako magpatakbo ng average of 60kph by watching 2km rpm rule

[nazmacjr]

Mga tsikoters, I have been using E10 on my 1993 Corolla XE 1.3L carb engine since Its introduction in the market with no problem. Since the car is already old I replaced all rubber fuel hoses with a new one from fuel tank to carburator. Hatak is ok with Shell E10 and mas ok sa Petron E10 considering its 95 octane rating. FC also improve a little bit . Hinataw ko sa skyway up to 120KPH ok naman.

[GPan]

may e10 na rin po caltex

yes sir meron na po dito sa caltex edsa corner connecticut, mas mahal po sya compare sa shell and petron e10 but i dont know yung RON nya.

[step22]

if im not mistaken 93 RON

[josep]

hello to fellow tsikoteers!

newbiee lng po. just going thru all forums of some sort that interests me and
feel its right time for me to share regarding this topic.

started using Petron e10 when i brought my ride vx200 '03 model from visayas to NCR (change of residence). nothing that i knew any gas station in my area there that carries e10 products so gave it a try here since mura and adopting to eco friendly idea.

my observation: After few days use from a full tank of e10, i noticed a whinning sound!!! thought it came from the engine cooling fan or anything that moves inside the engine bay that creates any sound. at first the sound was negligible when inside driving the car but then the sound grew noticeably loud.
i couldn't figure what creates this whinning sound until our neighbor who once worked as Toyota's SA intrigued at the cars noise offered to check around. he asked me what i lately introduced into the car from oil to anything etc.? TOLD him that i shifted using e10 for the car. he then went strait to where the location of the fuel pump is and pointed that the sound came exactly from the mechanism. he told me damaging the pump renders inconvenience and not so friendly to the pocket.:ouch:
but he cannot confirm positively if e10 fuel is the culprit.. so he then suggest to discontinue using it to avoid further damaging the p/p and balik to dati sa nakasanayan ng makina and... OBSERVE! buti na lng below 1/4th sa guage fuel remained! so i refuelled using XCS and hoping for the best to come! after days of use back to my regular fuel, the sound diminishes till it never bothers me and giving me peace of mind!
Hanggang ngayon wala na ang whinning sound ng fuel p/p ko!
THANKS to my good neighbor for the experience shared!:cheers2:
by the way, describing what the sound like.. curfew tone back in the 80's

[alwayz_yummy]

older cars talaga are not designed to handle the e10. ung alcohol content ang nakakasira--deyn di mahilig sa alak hehehe

ako di na ako e10, pumapangit yung takbo ng makina, and in time nagpapatigas ng rubber hoses and rubber parts,e...

[josep]

i would definetly agree when it comes to the pulling power of the car using e10.. as if i'm not driving a 2000cc engine! hirap nga even reaching 100kph.
i envied others who has older engine using this fuel and benefitting well out of it! goodLuck!

[1D4LV]

add ko lang ha? out of curiosity, have loaded up on Total E10. ganda takbo ng oto ngayon compared if i am using Shell or Petron E10. i have not tried Caltex E10 pa.

[jasonub]

Mga Bros my experience using my old 99 corolla xe carburated engine.

I gassed up with e10 full tank which will last me 2 weeks or so dati. It was ok at the start but mga halfway to the tank, i experienced medyo mahirap start on a cold engine. Namamatay unless you put your foot on the accelerator

After 1 or 2 mins warmup ok na

also medyo humina ang hatak.

What i can think is that since ethanol is known to absorb water, medyo dumami water content sa tank sa tagal ng e10 duun

So after that i gassed up with unleaded and ok na ulit.

I suggest if your going to use e 10 mga 1 week lang ikarga ninyo sa tanke. Then the absorbtion of water should be negligible. Then maybe alternate fuel to unleaded after a 2 or 3x nag e10 to maybe clean the system

[redeemed]

ito yung isa sa mga nabasa ko re E10:

"I first inquired with a Honda service center professional at a Honda Philippines dealer, who said that Honda vehicles sold in the Philippines and manufactured from 2000 and earlier should not use E10 gasoline because of potential corrosion to the gas tank and fuel line. I next inquired with another service center professional, this time from a Toyota Motors Philippines dealer, who said that Toyota cars made from 2002 should be able to use E10 gasoline. He also mentioned that earlier, pre-2002 Toyota models were also prone to the same problems observed by his Honda counterpart. I also asked both men if it was possible to replace the fuel tanks and lines of the ineligible vehicles with parts adapted for E10 gasoline use. Both replied in the negative." (More...)