E10 Ethanol, bad for your engine & economy? [MERGED]

[jang]

Has it really been confirmed that Petron Blaze does not contain ethanol?

[crazy_boy]

Has it really been confirmed that Petron Blaze does not contain ethanol?

Naka lagay sa pump na ethanol free siya. So most likely wala siyang ethanol.

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[falken]

Has it really been confirmed that Petron Blaze does not contain ethanol?

Their website claims that it's pure gasoline.

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[drunkpunk]

mga bros share ko lang itong nabasa ko sa Philippine Daily inquirer 3 days ago.

[thebat]

Nagka Problema engine ko sa XCS 95octane with ethanol ng Petron (2015 jimny and 2007 APV). Nag ka tope.
Moved up to Blaze for the jimny at nawala agad. APV ko now naka nitro+ shell 95octane. Gumanda mga takbo.
Same problem na encounter ng 3 officemates ko using XCS.

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Nagka Problema engine ko sa XCS 95octane with ethanol ng Petron (2015 jimny and 2007 APV). Nag ka tope.
Moved up to Blaze for the jimny at nawala agad. APV ko now naka nitro+ shell 95octane. Gumanda mga takbo.
Same problem na encounter ng 3 officemates ko using XCS.

[muddiedknees]

Sirs, alin po sa current available petrol fuels ang walang ethanol?

[drunkpunk]

Sirs, alin po sa current available petrol fuels ang walang ethanol?

Alam ko lahat na ng gasoline ng major players may E10 na. Sa mga maliliit na gasulinahan ka na lang makakakita ng walang E10 pero mahirap na din makakita.

[sirkosero]

Sirs, alin po sa current available petrol fuels ang walang ethanol?

Blaze lang.

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[WallyWest]

Is Blaze still ethanol-free? I haven't read any updated ads that it is still 100% gasoline. O hindi lang advertised dahil by law dapat E-10 na lahat ng gasolina?

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[amit65]

Ethanol fuel is ethyl alcohol, the same type of alcohol found in alcoholic beverages, used as fuel. It is most often used as a motor fuel, mainly as a biofuel additive for gasoline. The first production car running entirely on ethanol was the Fiat 147, introduced in 1978 in Brazil by Fiat. Nowadays, cars are able to run using 100% ethanol fuel or a mix of ethanol and gasoline (aka flex-fuel). It is commonly made from biomass such as corn or sugarcane. World ethanol production for transport fuel tripled between 2000 and 2007 from 17×109 liters (4.5×109 U.S. gal; 3.7×109 imp gal) to more than 52×109 liters (1.4×1010 U.S. gal; 1.1×1010 imp gal). From 2007 to 2008, the share of ethanol in global gasoline type fuel use increased from 3.7% to 5.4%.[1] In 2011 worldwide ethanol fuel production reached 22.36×109 U.S. gallons (8.46×1010 liters; 1.862×1010 imperial gallons), with the United States as the top producer with 13.9×109 U.S. gallons (5.3×1010 liters; 1.16×1010 imperial gallons), accounting for 62.2% of global production, followed by Brazil with 5.6×109 U.S. gallons (2.1×1010 liters; 4.7×109 imperial gallons).[2] Ethanol fuel has a "gasoline gallon equivalency" (GGE) value of 1.5 US gallons (5.7 L; 1.2 imp gal), which means 1.5 US gallons of ethanol produces the energy of one US gallon (3.8 L; 0.83 imp gal) of gasoline.[3]

Ethanol fuel is widely used in Brazil and in the United States, and together both countries were responsible for 87.1% of the world's ethanol fuel production in 2011.[2] Most cars on the road today in the U.S. can run on blends of up to 10% ethanol,[4] and ethanol represented 10% of the U.S. gasoline fuel supply derived from domestic sources in 2011.[2] Since 1976 the Brazilian government has made it mandatory to blend ethanol with gasoline, and since 2007 the legal blend is around 25% ethanol and 75% gasoline (E25).[5] By December 2011 Brazil had a fleet of 14.8 million flex-fuel automobiles and light trucks[6][7] and 1.5 million flex-fuel motorcycles[8][9][10] that regularly use neat ethanol fuel (known as E100).

[spectr]

The national government should reverse the movement of E10 gasoline because it results in LOWER fuel mileage. But in doing so, it increased the demand for fuel overnight by 5 to 10 percent (the same percentage drop in fuel mileage). That means the government earns more money because the motoring public was dupped into the "clean fuel" idea and we all end up paying for it until today.

[Shutterbug]

Anyone who has an idea which fuels available in our market now DOES NOT have E10?

[StockEngine]

only petron blaze100

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[Shutterbug]

Thanks!! So even the new reformulated Shell VPower Fuel range has E10 pa din pala...

Is E10 really that harmful to our cars that the price and octane of Blaze100 is worth the premium?

only petron blaze100

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[StockEngine]

most fuels naman meron additives to protect from ethanol...

ilang years ng e10 ang fuels natin.. no major issues naman..

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[dr. d]

Thanks!! So even the new reformulated Shell VPower Fuel range has E10 pa din pala...

Is E10 really that harmful to our cars that the price and octane of Blaze100 is worth the premium?

alcohol is harmful to rubber. although, an author says, at this concentration, it's... not.
but i suppose, the whiz guys have already remedied this.

[fuelubecare]

Anyone who has an idea which fuels available in our market now DOES NOT have E10?

All liquid fuels for motors and engines sold in the Phils shall contain locally-sourced biofuel components as mandated by law, RA9367 - Biofuels Act of 2006. For gasoline, should contain 10% ethanol and for diesel should contain 2% CME. If there are fuels sold without biofuel components chances are they are smuggle. If any major player claim that their products do not contain biofuel components chances are they are bluffing.

[fuelubecare]

alcohol is harmful to rubber. although, an author says, at this concentration, it's... not.
but i suppose, the whiz guys have already remedied this.

if I may add ethanol alcohol is very corrosive and absorbs more water than gasoline and absorbs dirt very easily. If these contaminants are not filtered successfully, they can cause damage and corrosion inside the engine block. Ethanol is also a good source of food for micro organisms in the fuel. With more water and microbes E10 is prone to microbial contamination commonly called as sludge. Some may just be clear slimy substance but, more than enough to plug the filter element and starve the engine.

[Shutterbug]

All liquid fuels for motors and engines sold in the Phils shall contain locally-sourced biofuel components as mandated by law, RA9367 - Biofuels Act of 2006. For gasoline, should contain 10% ethanol and for diesel should contain 2% CME. If there are fuels sold without biofuel components chances are they are smuggle. If any major player claim that their products do not contain biofuel components chances are they are bluffing.

most fuels naman meron additives to protect from ethanol...

ilang years ng e10 ang fuels natin.. no major issues naman..

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alcohol is harmful to rubber. although, an author says, at this concentration, it's... not.
but i suppose, the whiz guys have already remedied this.

if I may add ethanol alcohol is very corrosive and absorbs more water than gasoline and absorbs dirt very easily. If these contaminants are not filtered successfully, they can cause damage and corrosion inside the engine block. Ethanol is also a good source of food for micro organisms in the fuel. With more water and microbes E10 is prone to microbial contamination commonly called as sludge. Some may just be clear slimy substance but, more than enough to plug the filter element and starve the engine.

Thanks for the wisdom guys! Hopefully the other fuels (sans Blaze100) have been formulated with enough additives to battle the cons of e10 in our fuels cos it's just too expensive to always go for the most premium ones (Blaze / Vpower Racing)

[jut703]

Some of my staff's cars have gone over 200,000 km in under 10 years and have been fed with nothing but ordinary E10 unleaded. No corrosion whatsoever in the fuel lines and no engine damage as well.

But if you want to make Petron even richer by paying P4.50/L more (that's an extra 180 pesos per full tank) for no other reason than going ethanol-free, go ahead. 😂

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