Auto-LPG Conversion Thread

**Mile2** · September 6th, 2008 07:17 PM

Any CleanFuel Auto LPG refilling station has gas analyzer apparatus - It's FREE. ( SGI kits not included in this promo )

They will calibrate and clean your air filter as long as you refill from their station.

Mine is SGI, so I just have my air filter cleaned.

**straker** · September 6th, 2008 08:28 PM

Tanong lang.... I presume the shops don't have this. Is a "dual-fuel" tank available already, somewhere? A single tank with two separate compartments, one for gas, the other for LPG. Being separated, pipes and other interfaces will go into their respective systems.

Since this will replace our existing tank, this resolves the tank placement issues.

Or maybe this is just a figment of my imagination.

**ghosthunter** · September 6th, 2008 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by straker

Tanong lang.... I presume the shops don't have this. Is a "dual-fuel" tank available already, somewhere? A single tank with two separate compartments, one for gas, the other for LPG. Being separated, pipes and other interfaces will go into their respective systems.

Since this will replace our existing tank, this resolves the tank placement issues.

Or maybe this is just a figment of my imagination.

I think the picture explains it well enough.

**n5110** · September 7th, 2008 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by Mile2

Any CleanFuel Auto LPG refilling station has gas analyzer apparatus - It's FREE. ( SGI kits not included in this promo )

They will calibrate and clean your air filter as long as you refill from their station.

Mine is SGI, so I just have my air filter cleaned.

thanks for the info. this is good news since they have the gas analyzer it eliminates "tsambahan". im going to qc tomorrow sana meron sa clean fuel congressional para ma check ang settings sa kotse ko before heading clark. thanks again mile2

**straker** · September 7th, 2008 08:34 PM

GH....hahaha, very funny!

**straker** · September 7th, 2008 08:55 PM

Visited EROOM and Greengas this week. EROOM's offering me their closed loop kit & a 40li cylinder, mounted on the spare wheel well for just over 30T. I'm looking forward for his SGI version, maybe next month the earliest.

Greengas offers an SGI kit for 45T, with the 40li cylinder in the trunk.

I've brought this idea to my parents, they're not pleased (to the point of facing another sermon) with what I'm up to. Their belief is that the car's innards is meant for gas, and not for another... Ika nga, either buy a bi-fuel car, or SHUT UP AND USE GAS!

Not exactly my better day....

**aamd** · September 8th, 2008 12:35 AM

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Govt to crack down on conversion shops

Unsafe auto-LPG vehicles
proliferating – Energy dept

By Euan Paulo C. Añonuevo, Reporter

THE Department of Energy will crack down on illegally converted auto-liquefied petroleum gas (LPG) vehicles operating as public transport services.

Energy Secretary Angelo Reyes said this move aims to curb illegal conversion shops, which have no certification from the Department of Trade and Industry for auto-LPG conversion and installation.

“We want to ensure that the safety and well-being of the riding public are being taken care of,” he said.

The Energy secretary said the Presidential Task Force on the Security of Energy Facilities and Enforcement of Energy Laws and Standards will conduct vehicle inspections in Metro Manila to apprehend illegally converted auto-LPG vehicles.

“Operatives of the task force will inspect vehicles to ferret out violators of energy laws and standards. While we support the conversion to auto-LPG so that drivers can make more money from their daily rounds, we do not want to compromise the safety of the riding public,” Reyes said.

In light of this, the Energy department is advising drivers and operators of auto-LPG vehicles to bring with them the certificate of conversion issued by accredited conversion shops whenever they are on the road.

At present, the majority of vehicles that have been converted for LPG use are in the public transport sector, particularly taxicabs. The government however has no reliable data on the number of vehicles that have converted to LPG use.

Recently, the government tied up with US-based Energtek Inc. for the conversion of tricycles for LPG use.

The company is arranging a micro-financing scheme that would help owners of tricycles to tap the alternative fuel.

The alternative fuel, which is commonly used as cooking gas in the country, costs around P30.20 to P33.68 per liter compared with P52.07 to P54.15 per liter for unleaded gasoline.

Despite its relatively low price, LPG, which is a byproduct of oil refining, is also affected by fluctuations in world oil prices and seasonal demand in countries with cooler climates that use the alternative fuel for heating purposes.

**MFB** · September 8th, 2008 09:54 AM

Sino sa local installers other than Stargas Phils (Prins system) may lubrication option for the valves? Sa research ko for my forester, failure to put lubrication is the no 1 reason for cylinder head damage. Most installers overseas forego this procedure because the engine has "hardened valves" already. May flash lube na ba sa atin? http://www.flashlube.com.au/en/valve...t/lpg_cng.html

**MFB** · September 8th, 2008 09:58 AM

Ok, just clicked the Flash Lube where to buy link. Meron dito sa Pinas! The distributor is
Lovely Home Inc.
474-478 Jaboneros Street, San Nicolas Manila Philippines 1010
Phone: +63 2 2428316
Fax: +63 224 22020
Email: agt*pacific.net.ph

Anyone familiar with them?

**niky** · September 8th, 2008 11:38 AM

I've read some word on the net that even flashlube isn't enough because the metering of the lube isn't enough.

If you're really worried about valves, go for the dual-gas system that will mix in gasoline at high loads (this is where valve seat recession sets in... at high rpms where the combustion chamber is hot and the valve starts micro-welding itself to the valve seat and chewing bits out of it).

You have to consider the source of your research and the type of kits that such observations come from... is it for the Forester mismo? Or for other cars? What kind of kits were they using? And what is the age of the cars? I'm compiling data on converted vehicles overseas, and so far, most of the problems appear to be backfiring with venturi mixers, with valve recession not reported on newer vehicles... though everyone keeps saying it will happen, nobody has shown it happening with an SGI kit on a 2000+ vehicle.