XTrail vs other Petrol CUVs

[Calistro]

Just want to hear your opinion on these guys. An cousin's looking at the Xtrail as he's looking for something comfortable, with good ground clearance, nice to drive, reliable, and can be brought anywhere (but not anything that's offroad) They have an accent and a navarra, so sedans and truck based SUVs are out of the picture. The Xtrail is his main bet, but still looking at other choices in the market. Not sure of why their preference of gasoline fed, but some contenders that we talked about are

- Tucson / Sportage
- CRV
- Upcoming Rav4

Questions are, any cons of the Xtrail against the other three? Which is bang for the buck given his requirements? Would appreciate owners' feedbacks. Thanks!

Edit : Looking at 2WD models

[dct]

I suggest montero GLS-V 4x4. manual nga lang. pero same price with xtrail 4WD, diesel pa. at mas "can be brought anywhere"

between your choices, sportage or tucson. 250k less ang sportage 4x4 compared sa xtrail 4x4. more or less 150k less naman sa tucson. mas masaya pa idrive for me ah. at napapangitan ako sa xtrail :D

1.9M ang 4WD ng rav4. hindi sulit para sakin

[GTi]

Just want to hear your opinion on these guys. An cousin's looking at the Xtrail as he's looking for something comfortable, with good ground clearance, nice to drive, reliable, and can be brought anywhere (but not anything that's offroad) They have an accent and a navarra, so sedans and truck based SUVs are out of the picture. The Xtrail is his main bet, but still looking at other choices in the market. Not sure of why their preference of gasoline fed, but some contenders that we talked about are

- Tucson / Sportage
- CRV
- Upcoming Rav4

Questions are, any cons of the Xtrail against the other three? Which is bang for the buck given his requirements? Would appreciate owners' feedbacks. Thanks!

Edit : Looking at 2WD models

Magkano budget? Ipag-isipan ng matino! Ang gas CUV ay malakas humigop!

I will not be getting the Tucson/Sportage with those voracious Theta engines, and the new Rav4 is just too expensive for what you get. This leaves us with the CRV. This should be the most fuel efficient among your choices especially with the new R20 engine and a 6 speed manual. There's also the advantage of higher resale value, being a Honda.

[Ry_Tower]

Grand Vitara okay din, RWD pa at mas matibay sa kunting offroad. Can compete with xtrail in that department.

[Starex_Gold]

Magkano budget? Ipag-isipan ng matino! Ang gas CUV ay malakas humigop!

I will not be getting the Tucson/Sportage with those voracious Theta engines, and the new Rav4 is just too expensive for what you get. This leaves us with the CRV. This should be the most fuel efficient among your choices especially with the new R20 engine and a 6 speed manual. There's also the advantage of higher resale value, being a Honda.

If power is a major concern, then CR-V 2.0 is not for his cousin. Ang bagal ng R20 sa CR-V.

Tsaka paano mo masasabing matakaw sa gas yung Sportage Theta e wala ka naman ganun. Lahat naman ng CUV na gasulina talagang nasa 7km/L average lang yan. Yung Sportage namin 7.8km/L na average ngayon. May iba nagrereklamo nasa 6km/L parin daw sila, ewan ko kung ano meron.

Maski Tucson CRDi ko kaya mag 6.5km/L sa city driving ha

[niky]

Para walang away... bili nalang siya ng Crosswind.

[GTi]

If power is a major concern, then CR-V 2.0 is not for his cousin. Ang bagal ng R20 sa CR-V.

Tsaka paano mo masasabing matakaw sa gas yung Sportage Theta e wala ka naman ganun. Lahat naman ng CUV na gasulina talagang nasa 7km/L average lang yan. Yung Sportage namin 7.8km/L na average ngayon. May iba nagrereklamo nasa 6km/L parin daw sila, ewan ko kung ano meron.

Maski Tucson CRDi ko kaya mag 6.5km/L sa city driving ha

Haha~ Kung tama naalala ko ikaw nga isa sa nagsabi na matakaw eh. 4-5km/L ba yun when climbing Kennon Road with the Tucson Club?

Ang tipid naman ng Sportage niyo ah. Rush hour city driving, o may kasamang highway?

Yung mga nakakakuha ng 6km/L siguro yung mga rush hour lagi lumalabas and/or maikli lang ang rota. Under such circumstances kahit yung Revo namin na, bukod sa SF VGT, ang pinakamatipid na kotse sa bahay namin nakakakuha ng around 7km/L lamang.

Dun naman sa Tucson CRDi, yan ang maganda sa pagiging diesel eh. Kahit na 6.5km/L ang konsumo niyan.
6.5km/L / P41/L (diesel) = X km/L / P52/L (unleaded)
6.5(52) = 41X
X - 8.24km/L
Therefore, money spent on diesel fuel consumed * 6.5km/L is equivalent to money spent on unleaded gasoline consumed * 8.24km/L.

Anyway, back to the topic. If power is a major concern, most 2.0L gasoline CUVs would not satisfy the TS what with their heavy bodies and lack of torque. If the R20 CRV, even in manual form, is considered slow, then the 2.0L X-Trail wouldn't be much better.

[Starex_Gold]

Syempre uphill yun what to expect malakas talaga sa gas yun HAHA.

Yung Sportage namin pure city driving yan. I'm using Motul fully synthetic and Petron Blaze. Pag Sunday tapos punta Resorts World kaya mag ~10km/L.

Kailan niyo lang nakuha yun Santa Fe?

[Calistro]

Thanks sa mga reply sir. Indi naman ganun kaconcern ang 'power', basta komportable, reliable at medyo rugged since medyo dirt road un daan papunta bahay nila. Masyado po ba limiting un hinahanap? Heheh. Kaya Xtrail un napipisil dahil sa reputation nya as a crossover. Wala naman masyado problema un Xtrail, as per their thread sa Nisaan, Baka meron lang na mas bang for the buck para sa kanya sa mga 2WD option.

[glntVR]

*GTi, if Calistro is referring to the X-trail CVT, power wouldn't be a problem even if they're considering the 4x2 version since it comes standard with the 2.5 liter engine.

-Not really a fan of the Tucson/Sportage but they're pretty good choices. Don't own one so I don't know how they are to drive or own. Tucson is starting to look old, sportage looks nice but some people don't dig the DRL

-Personally, if you're looking at 2wd models, I think the new thai CR-Vs are bang for the buck. Priced well. Go for the range topping 2.0 2wd model with the extra features. And the looks of the new CR-V seems to be growing on me. Unlike the previous model which never really looked nice, but has a great interior.
-The 4x2 X-trail CVT doesn't look as nice as the 4x4, those regular halogen headlamps are ugly.

[GTi]

Syempre uphill yun what to expect malakas talaga sa gas yun HAHA.

Yung Sportage namin pure city driving yan. I'm using Motul fully synthetic and Petron Blaze. Pag Sunday tapos punta Resorts World kaya mag ~10km/L.

Kailan niyo lang nakuha yun Santa Fe?

Yung Santa Fe around September last year ata kinuha if I'm not mistaken. Binili yan para sa tito ko na kakauwi lang from Taiwan. 2nd hand lang bro. Silver na 2008 4x2 CRDi with around 40tkms on the clock. Meron na ring touchscreen A/V system with backup camera and sensors installed. Binenta sa amin ng 800k. So far it nets around 7.5km/L city driving. Explanation is quite simple. My uncle used to drag race.

[jut703]

Mazda CX-5.

Best handling among all the CUVs I've driven. Priced well and looks good too.

[GTi]

Thanks sa mga reply sir. Indi naman ganun kaconcern ang 'power', basta komportable, reliable at medyo rugged since medyo dirt road un daan papunta bahay nila. Masyado po ba limiting un hinahanap? Heheh. Kaya Xtrail un napipisil dahil sa reputation nya as a crossover. Wala naman masyado problema un Xtrail, as per their thread sa Nisaan, Baka meron lang na mas bang for the buck para sa kanya sa mga 2WD option.

Haha~ Looks like the old Escape fits the bill! Comfortable check, reliable check, rugged check... Has adequate punch too!

O yan umakyat na ng snowy mountain!

Kung dirt road lang naman, I believe any CUV would be perfectly capable of crossing. Aside from the X-Trail I would consider the CRV and the Sportage 4x2 CRDi. Both are cheaper than the X-Trail. Kung 4x2 2.5L CVT X-Trail ang hanap mo, tiyak na may kalakasan sa gas yan. I find the Sportage 4x2 CRDi truly bang for the buck. At 1.29M it is cheaper than both the CRV 2.0A/T and X-Trail CVT, and has more horses, more torque, and better gas mileage than any gasoline CUV. Yung Tucson CRDi 1.368M may 4x4 na, siguradong sigurado walang problema sa dirt road nila kahit ulanan pa yan ng todo todo.

[Calistro]

Thanks sir, keep 'em coming. I'll let him know that this thread exists so he can check himself =)

Sor far, mukhang challenger un CRV, and Sportage. Medyo mahal un CX5 AT at around 1.5m. Pero maganda un FC sir according to reviews and owner feedback

[slvrsrfr2301]

ako crv, fc ko dati is 7.6 now 8.5km/l na, using seaoil extreme97 pero minsan naka blaze din :D worst fc ko dun was 7.0km/l ayos naman sya para sakin....handling, ride comfort and performance wise wala ako problema sa kanya though i find the 8.5km/l low nasanay kasi ako sa wagon ko na nakaka 12km/l

[GTi]

Thanks sir, keep 'em coming. I'll let him know that this thread exists so he can check himself =)

Sor far, mukhang challenger un CRV, and Sportage. Medyo mahal un CX5 AT at around 1.5m. Pero maganda un FC sir according to reviews and owner feedback

Enlighten mo siya bro sa benefits of diesels. Small displacement V6-like performance with fuel costs comparable to 1.6L compact sedans!

[Calistro]

Enlighten mo siya bro sa benefits of diesels. Small displacement V6-like performance with fuel costs comparable to 1.6L compact sedans!

Naku Sir, that's a good idea. But too bad I don't own a diesel car =/

[GTi]

Naku Sir, that's a good idea. But too bad I don't own a diesel car =/

Lots of us here do! Our good friend Starex_gold is especially well acquainted with them.

Modern diesels are very rewarding to drive, especially if it is used as a daily driver. While gasoline 2.0 sedans and CUVs are consuming 5-6km/L in bumper to bumper rush hour EDSA traffic, you are sipping cheap diesel at well north of 7km/L at the very least. Then when you want to make the happy pedal kiss the floor, you'd leave pretty much everyone behind and still don't lose half of the contents of the gas tank in the process unlike with many high horse gasoline engines. Its just that periodical maintenance is more expensive as diesels use about 2x the amount of motor oil gasoline engines use. Some engine parts are also more expensive. IMHO, just a small price to pay around twice a year for such numerous benefits.

[Starex_Gold]

Hahaha GTi talaga

IMO lang, kung kukuha ng compact CUV na diesel, Sportage EX R-eVGT na. Mas mura * 1.320M vs 1.368M Tucson GL R-eVGT. Sportage is 2WD so it's more efficient. Kung hindi lang talaga kailangan agad kumuha ng Sportage, we should've waited for the CRDi, pero no regrets naman sa Theta kasi mura ang maintenance. Maintenance lang naman ang downside sa CRDi eh, 8 liters of semi or fully synthetic oil every PMS, air filter every 10,000km, fuel filter every 20,000km, EGR cleaning every 40,000km, the rest follows

Sobrang dami nang Tucson sa kalye, wala na yung "uy" factor. Pare-pareho nalang. You have to put "something" to stand out. Sabagay eventually mangyayari din yan sa Sportage. IMO lang Sportage looks better than Tucson pag stock to stock

[sachiel]

Or if the rumors are true, you can wait for the Xtrail diesel this year. But among the choices, Escape, CRV or the entry level RAV4 ma recommend ko. I don't like the ride of the Tucson but that is my opinion only. Test drive it first since most of these have test drive units. I own both Xtrail 2.0 and CVT and never gave me headaches even when going to Nueva Ecija.