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    Medyo umandar nanaman yung curiosity ko, I saw different vans (toyota,foton,kia,Mitsu L300,Hyundai Starex,Nissan Urvan etc.) as an ambulance pero ano sa tingin ang pinakamagandang pick na VAN to use as an ambulance? So let's talk about this

    -Foton View
    -Nissan Urvan/Urvan Estate
    -Hyundai Starex
    -Toyota Hi-Ace
    -Mitsubishi L300
    -Hyundai H100
    -Kia Kc2700 atbp.

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    Toyota Alphard 3.5L you can get the patient to the hospital much more quicker than anything else on the road.


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    seriously,... either the Toyota HiAce or Hyundai Starex. Interior space and ride quality.

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    From your list I would pick:

    Urvan
    HiAce GL Grandia or Super Grandia body.

    Urvan is the most affordable and you can buy it without all the passenger seats. Plus its readily available in white.

    Hiace cost much more. It comes with all those passenger seats that need to be discarded and you need to pay extra 15K to get it in white. The GL Grandia body is preferable bec. of its affordability vis a vis Super Grandia. Bet. it and the super grandia, it is more useful as an ambulance due to its one sided sliding door, resulting to more space inside.

    I have seen a Super Grandia pearl white converted into ambulance. It belonged to an institution or the city of Cavite.

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    Alphard bago sa pandinig ko yun a? May nakasabay nga kami ng father ko sa SLEX along southwoods, Nissan Urvan na ambulance mukang may isusugod pa-calamba (naka-siren e) then sabi ng father ko "yan ang mali Urvan gagawin mong ambulansya e ang mabagal nyan" well, hindi suitable ang urvan as an ambu kasi kahit matulin and nakasiren inoovertake pa rin ng ibang vehicles esp. cars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by number001 View Post
    From your list I would pick:

    Urvan
    HiAce GL Grandia or Super Grandia body.

    Urvan is the most affordable and you can buy it without all the passenger seats. Plus its readily available in white.

    Hiace cost much more. It comes with all those passenger seats that need to be discarded and you need to pay extra 15K to get it in white. The GL Grandia body is preferable bec. of its affordability vis a vis Super Grandia. Bet. it and the super grandia, it is more useful as an ambulance due to its one sided sliding door, resulting to more space inside.

    I have seen a Super Grandia pearl white converted into ambulance. It belonged to an institution or the city of Cavite.
    In Muntinlupa i saw HI-ace ambulances use by the city municipal, dito naman po sa San Pedro, Starex hindi yung bagong labas ngayon ah (yung facelifted version followed by starex singkit na may large headlight already CRDI)
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    Toyota Hi-ace The best

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    Toyota Alphard 3.5L you can get the patient to the hospital much more quicker than anything else on the road.


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    seriously,... either the Toyota HiAce or Hyundai Starex. Interior space and ride quality.
    Di puwede ang Alphard dahil sobrang liit nyan tulad ng Hiace Commuter pag ginawang Ambulance..

    Magandang gawing ambulance ang Hiace GL Grandia(yan ang kina OTEP),Urvan Estate at Grand Starex(not the TCI).Wag lang L300 na madaling kalawangin.

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    Toyota Alphard 3.5L FTW!!

    Dual VVTi EFI 3.5L DOHC 24V V6 engine = 275hp
    6 speed A/T
    front/rear disc brakes / traction control


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    why not buy a real ambulance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by foresterx View Post
    why not buy a real ambulance?

    no money to buy it.

    no money to maintain it.

    no parts (locally) to fix it.

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    toyota has the vans fitted to be ambulances. they have the right height for the patient gurney and tie down fitments for it. the ambulance has to have a bigger engine than it needs for extra equipment like breathing oxygen, defibrilator, spare linen, bandages, bodily fluid kits and so on. a meager 2.0 engine will not cut it. the lights, communication and other electrical loads needs two batteries and a bigger charging system to match it. it should also have a bigger airconditioning unit in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jick.cejoco View Post
    toyota has the vans fitted to be ambulances. they have the right height for the patient gurney and tie down fitments for it. the ambulance has to have a bigger engine than it needs for extra equipment like breathing oxygen, defibrilator, spare linen, bandages, bodily fluid kits and so on. a meager 2.0 engine will not cut it. the lights, communication and other electrical loads needs two batteries and a bigger charging system to match it. it should also have a bigger airconditioning unit in it.
    i agree but some many reasons like yung ibang local official na bibili ng unit para gawing abulansiya di marurunong pumili e,

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    Toyota Alphard 3.5L FTW!!

    Dual VVTi EFI 3.5L DOHC 24V V6 engine = 275hp
    6 speed A/T
    front/rear disc brakes / traction control

    whoa!!!dual VVTi,..sounds good, teka mukha dito kinuha yung concept sa design ng FOTON VIEW ah....

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    Quote Originally Posted by number001 View Post
    From your list I would pick:

    Urvan
    HiAce GL Grandia or Super Grandia body.

    Urvan is the most affordable and you can buy it without all the passenger seats. Plus its readily available in white.

    Hiace cost much more. It comes with all those passenger seats that need to be discarded and you need to pay extra 15K to get it in white. The GL Grandia body is preferable bec. of its affordability vis a vis Super Grandia. Bet. it and the super grandia, it is more useful as an ambulance due to its one sided sliding door, resulting to more space inside.

    I have seen a Super Grandia pearl white converted into ambulance. It belonged to an institution or the city of Cavite.


    so you get the less expensive ones that might cost more to maintain in terms of cost per mile? not to get extravagant, the main objective here is to get the patient to urgent care promptly and comfortably since the patient might be in severe pain to begin with. wait 'til he/she dies and he/she rides in a cadillac hearse?

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    Well, if your budget is quite limited, I suggest you get the Foton View. Most bang for the buck for the money. You get the previous generation HiAce body and chassis and an improved Isuzu 4JB1 with turbo and "CRDi" (as they claim) that makes 102hp. Its the lowest costing out there and is more powerful than the L300, Urvan, K2700 and H100. If you've got a large budget, the Grand Starex is the best choice. Its got good ride quality and most importantly, a thrifty and powerful engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    Well, if your budget is quite limited, I suggest you get the Foton View. Most bang for the buck for the money. You get the previous generation HiAce body and chassis and an improved Isuzu 4JB1 with turbo and "CRDi" (as they claim) that makes 102hp. Its the lowest costing out there and is more powerful than the L300, Urvan, K2700 and H100. If you've got a large budget, the Grand Starex is the best choice. Its got good ride quality and most importantly, a thrifty and powerful engine.

    Yun Foton View ang Hiace look alike? May parts availability ba to? Dami ako nakaka kita nyan especially Ambulance ng PCSO.

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    Yup, yun ang gamit ng PCSO. Makikita rin natin ang durability and reliability nito in the long term. Kung mabubuhay ito ng matagal. As for parts availability, I wouldn't be fretting about that since AFAIK it does not use any proprietary technology from Foton. Parts should be readily available in Banawe. I believe besides the cosmetic parts, all mechanical parts should be interchangeable with Toyota and Isuzu parts.

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    Ang kawawang foton..
    Currently ganito pa rin ang lagay niya due to unavailability of replacement parts..

    Make: Foton View Ambulance Series
    Owner: Provincial Government, Leyte/Palompon (Leyte) community Hospital
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/josengsisiw/5039051614/



    They could swap in front end parts from Japan surplus Hi Ace or even from chop-chop.

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    so you get the less expensive ones that might cost more to maintain in terms of cost per mile?
    I'm not sure how you assume that the Urvan Escapade cost more to maintain? It is used by many in the transportation business much like the L300 Versa Van and as well as other business segments.


    not to get extravagant, the main objective here is to get the patient to urgent care promptly and comfortably since the patient might be in severe pain to begin with.
    Presently, the Philippines market does not have any ambulance that meet your criteria. Tried riding on a HiAce Super Grandia? Its not comfortable at all and it costs almost equivalent to two Urvan Escapades. Its engine is a 2.5 li that is also found in the Innova. If a fully loaded Innova feels lethargic, what's more a fully equipped ambulance?

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    eto naman ang counterpart ng Foton -Jinbei Haise ambulance
    2.7 L diesel w/ front & rear aircon equipped w/ isolation board, aluminum stretcher, oxygen tank, medication cabinet, upper air vent, standard siren & light and other features...

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    Quote Originally Posted by number001 View Post




    http://www.flickr.com/photos/josengsisiw/5039051614/



    They could swap in front end parts from Japan surplus Hi Ace or even from chop-chop.

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    I'm not sure how you assume that the Urvan Escapade cost more to maintain? It is used by many in the transportation business much like the L300 Versa Van and as well as other business segments.




    Presently, the Philippines market does not have any ambulance that meet your criteria. Tried riding on a HiAce Super Grandia? Its not comfortable at all and it costs almost equivalent to two Urvan Escapades. Its engine is a 2.5 li that is also found in the Innova. If a fully loaded Innova feels lethargic, what's more a fully equipped ambulance?


    just to clarify, the ambulance specs can be found in google: ambulance specifications and standards. at least use this as a general guideline. some accessory might not be practical nor necessary for the philippine road conditions and traffic flow, but just to give an idea

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