strada AT or ranger AT?

[glenn manikis]

Para sa akin, ford ranger 3.2 wildtrack andun na lahat pero depende rin Kung anu purpose mo sa truck.
Dmax - heavy duty
Navara - workhorse
Strada - light duty
Ranger - recreational



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sir ask ko lang bakit pang RECREATIONAL ang ranger..?

dpo ba ang ranger has one or probably the highest payload capacity 1152kg or more than a ton.....

and tow close to 3 tonnes.... the ranger beats them all....

then you got the biggest bed space.... best flood fording depth...

hindi ba workhorse ang tawag dun?

[yebo]

glenn, nasa may ari yan kasi. sa atin asawa, sa kanila kabit lang.

[12vdc]

Sa akin pickup lang yan. Utility, workhorse, kargahan ng tambak sa likod.

No replacement to cubes and that is applicable to non-CR and common-rail diesel engines, kahit gawin pang twin turbo, Lag..lag..lag.. kelangan paabutin sa 1k and up RPM to achieve the hP and torque..

[yebo]

No replacement for cubes naman talaga, so strada man or ranger better get the model with the bigger engine. Kasi yung 2.2/2.5 kung later on need mo more power baka kulang kahit i-mod pa. Pag 3.2, kung di pa din masaya sa 200hp e di chip up mo, 250 hp ka na 600Nm pa.

[SiRbossR]

It's not always the engine size or the turbo. It's always the engineering. You cant just say a Porsche 911's engine is weaker than an LS3 V8 Corvette Z06 because the former only has a 3.5 boxer 6.

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[Walter]

What's this obsession with power anyway? In the other threads, people keep on asking if a 1.0, 1.2, 1.3 or 1.5 liter engine has enough power, if it can climb uphill AND overtake. If you CAN afford it, buy the largest engine that you can and don't ask about fuel consumption. Otherwise, settle for what you can afford and be happy. Power is relative, even if you buy a 2.0 or 3.0 engine variant, you won't be able to overtake a convoy or Porsches or Ferraris.

[3GEMS]

On everyday drive on CITY it is important to feel the tourque at earliest/lowest rpm posible because you feel the pull/orgasm shortest period/lowest rpm as posible, that what is toyota is giving us, ORgASM ? what can you as for more... Sa dami ng usapan at diskosyon it boils down to RELIABILIT isipin mo babayadan mo sasakyan morth thousand monthly amort or cash worth million then bibigayan ka lang ng sakit ng ulo, its just me, you will just know it pag na experience mo na..


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[12vdc]

Pickup trucks are designed to haul and not for speed so you cant compare a sportscar engine with a truck engine. They may do turbo to compensate the power to weight ratio but the most important factor for trucks is the low-end grunt.

What is happening now are, trucks getting less cubes and concentrate more on forced induction. Tendency when laden these engines gets overworked esp during launching. You need to spin it faster to get the desired HP/torque figures.

The explanation needs no complex and hi tech engineering. Its simply higher displacement will always have better low-end power, while those tiny turbocharged engines coupled with any variable vane technology will always struggle more to get the desired power..

[jut703]

What's this obsession with power anyway? In the other threads, people keep on asking if a 1.0, 1.2, 1.3 or 1.5 liter engine has enough power, if it can climb uphill AND overtake. If you CAN afford it, buy the largest engine that you can and don't ask about fuel consumption. Otherwise, settle for what you can afford and be happy. Power is relative, even if you buy a 2.0 or 3.0 engine variant, you won't be able to overtake a convoy or Porsches or Ferraris.

More and more people seem to believe that they can have power, economy, and low price, all at once.

Nagsimula lahat yan sa nagpost ng Vios 1.3 niya na umabot daw ng "200 kph" 😆


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[yebo]

What's this obsession with power anyway? In the other threads, people keep on asking if a 1.0, 1.2, 1.3 or 1.5 liter engine has enough power, if it can climb uphill AND overtake. If you CAN afford it, buy the largest engine that you can and don't ask about fuel consumption. Otherwise, settle for what you can afford and be happy. Power is relative, even if you buy a 2.0 or 3.0 engine variant, you won't be able to overtake a convoy or Porsches or Ferraris.

But we are not talking about sedans here or top speed or 0-100 kph times. We are talking about pick up trucks. If it is just a lifestyle pick up, like what most ford ranger buyers here use their rangers for, then porma is everything. They are satisfied with 150 hp of the 2.2 models. But if the pick up will be used for what it is designed for then power is important. If you have 1 ton of fertilizer at the back and going up a hill on a dirt road then you do need power, torque and all 4 wheels biting.

What's the top speed of a porsche or ferrari going uphill on a muddy road with 10 sacks of rice tied to the roof? Yep, nobody knows because they're not made to do that!

[cocoy]

i think the philippine market is one of a few in the world that buys cars that are not used for the purpose it was made for. 4x4 suv's are converted to 4x2 just to satisfy the market.. when it comes to pickups.. i think Thailand is the other country that has lots of 4x2 high rider pickups.. the 2.2 ranger would be a good pick up for the philippines.. kasi yun nga majority of the buyers are just using it for everyday driving just like a sedan.. compared to Australia majority of the Rangers are the 3.2 4x4.. because they use it for the purpose it was built for..

[yebo]

madami kasi gusto lang porma. macho daw pero pagbuhatin mo ng 50kg sack of rice iniisip pa lang nila masakit na ang katawan. sa gym lang malakas pag kasama ang mga amigang dingbads. ahahaaaay!

[RF02]

anu na kaya napili ni TS...

napakadaming infos na nag labasan sana nakapili na sya ng maayos...

[cocoy]

dapat lang 4x4 ang nabili ni TS.. or if 4x2 lang dont modify it to look like a 4x4.. ang fake kasi. heheh

[leodawesome]

Ano pala yung issue sa transmission ng ranger and bt-50? Kahit M/T ba meron?

[jut703]

Ano pala yung issue sa transmission ng ranger and bt-50? Kahit M/T ba meron?

Nagli-limp mode.

So far AT palang yung alam kong case dito sa PH. But foreign forums also say na meron din sa MT. But no MT case has been posted yet, whether here, FCP, or FB.


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[yagbolts]

All turbo diesels have turbo lag, even a BMW 320d has turbo lag. Getting an automatic, which you will, makes the lag less noticeable. Also the Ranger's extra gears will reduce the feeling of the lag.

Ever considered the Hilux? It less powerful than both rivals but it comes with a sterling reputation for reliability.

TS, what are your uses? Actual work truck or lifestyle pickup?

Hi,
i also inquire at Toyota, maganda yung AT nila * 1.2k
my carplan kasi is only for 950k, ayaw ko na magdagdag ng malaki. I am from mandaluyong kaya i prefer a truck, nakaka inip kasi maghintay ng pagbaba ng flood sa route ko, hehehe

FYI , undecided pa din, my wife wants the ranger, ako strada. I will dispose my Ford escape before i buy the truck. Pangdagdag sa budget.

[poporam]

Nissan will launch their new pick up june 11th.

[viper888]

When Nissan launches their pickup on june, it would take at least a year before anyone here can get their hands one
The ranger is nearly 1.2m wheareas the strada is about 1.1m

If all you want is something that can wade water for 950k, you can get an eco-sport
Its always advisable to just wait for the floods to subside, I remember when i was studying in ust I used an expedition occasionally. One day I was a bit impatient to go home (had various projects to do) and I went straight home and charged through foot high floods in espana and buendia. I got home safely but i damaged the brakes and the horn. The cost of my impatience: P16k. The worst part was the submission was moved . I should have just gone drinking

[GTi]

Like the Strada, the Hilux has excellent parts availability, and among all Toyota models that share the same engine, mechanics are very familiar with it. It doesn't have a lot of top end power, but low end grunt is abundant, which is great if you do mostly city driving. However, the cheapest matic Hilux variant (2.5G 4x2) is already priced at 1.2M. The Strada GLX-V A/T only costs 1.09M, and that's before discounts.

You'll come up with a winner when it comes to flood wading no matter what you choose. All of these pickups and their SUV counterparts have been proven time and time again to be able to cross waist deep floods without a problem.

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