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    Were looking for a 2nd car which is fuel efficient and less maintenance on a long run.it will travel 100kms daily.90% expressway and 10%national road.
    and is it true that 3cylinders consumes more fuel on highways?and it is only good on city driving?
    as of now,were eyeing with the brio for its 4cyclinder.

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    Are you limiting your choices to gas powered ones? Your daily routine, like mine, involves mostly expressway runs. I chose a diesel instead & have not regretted it.

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    We have 2014montero glx.base on my computation,it saves me on diesel consumption vs the 21km/l of mirage gas.the problem is the maintance cost of the montero.another thing thats why were eyeing for subcompact car is the space of my parking,sedan will not going to fit.

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    Pinakamatipid mirage. Well mas tipid ang alto pero mas ok ang mirage dahil more power for expressway. Ang layo ng 100km daily ah. Hehe. I dont know how to compute kung accent diesel ang kukunin, if it's cheaper since high mileage ang route. Madali lang mag20km/liter ang accent diesel e

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    Una naming plano is mirage glx but minsan naitanong ko sa isang mekaniko bout 3 cyclinder cars.ang sabi eh,matipid daw sya for city driving but for highway(long ride)eh matakaw din daw kaya sana maliwanagan ako sa usaping ito.kaya ngayon kinoconsider namen is honda brio dahil 4 cyclinder na sya.compact cars lang talaga ang magpifit sa garahe hence maliit sya madali ang manuvere papasok at palabas pagnagsabay sila ng montero sa garahe.let's say lipa to mamplasan via startoll,actex and slex VV daily papasok ng work.

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    i could easily go 18km/l on highway driving on mirage... (80 to 120kph *3-3.5krpm)
    the thing with 3 cylinders, it is best for city driving but is also capable on highway driving. if you are going to haul people and things with it, then go for 4 bangers. if mostly alone, 3 bangers are alright.

    if you are willing to shell out money on brio, maybe, you should also consider suzuki swift, toyota yaris, mazda 2 just for the sake of comparing.

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    The swift 1.2 is a 4-cylinder hatch. During an eco run from top gear a few years ago, the 1.4 AT Swift managed Prius-like fuel efficiency. I guess this 1.2L version should even do better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sientobente View Post
    The swift 1.2 is a 4-cylinder hatch. During an eco run from top gear a few years ago, the 1.4 AT Swift managed Prius-like fuel efficiency. I guess this 1.2L version should even do better.
    Oo nga pala. Swift. Mas ok ang swift kaysa brio kung 4 cyclinder ang gusto

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    Quote Originally Posted by sientobente View Post
    The swift 1.2 is a 4-cylinder hatch. During an eco run from top gear a few years ago, the 1.4 AT Swift managed Prius-like fuel efficiency. I guess this 1.2L version should even do better.
    Hi, would you recall hw much km/l it did during the eco run? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obsessed View Post
    Una naming plano is mirage glx but minsan naitanong ko sa isang mekaniko bout 3 cyclinder cars.ang sabi eh,matipid daw sya for city driving but for highway(long ride)eh matakaw din daw kaya sana maliwanagan ako sa usaping ito.kaya ngayon kinoconsider namen is honda brio dahil 4 cyclinder na sya.compact cars lang talaga ang magpifit sa garahe hence maliit sya madali ang manuvere papasok at palabas pagnagsabay sila ng montero sa garahe.let's say lipa to mamplasan via startoll,actex and slex VV daily papasok ng work.
    How did that mechanic arrived in that theory na matipid lang ang 3-cylinder sa city driving? Theoretically, 3-cylinder engines provided same displacement sila ng 4-cylinder will have better fuel efficiency since 3-cylinder engines has leas friction load of parts. Less load means less effort, less effort translate into fuel consumption. Actually sa fuel efficiency, kailangn mo rin consider ang: no. of passengers, driving habit, tire pressure even aerodynamics. Those are just some of the things to consider.
    Manufacturers produce each of their sub-compacts to be fuel efficient. As long as your pick can fit nicely with your monty in your garage, you'd be fine. If it doesnt fit your garage then scratch it from the list.
    Maintenance- as long as you follow routine PMS religiously, your car will last for a long time.
    Maintenance cost- I dont think it will cost you an arm naman. Its a sub-compact
    Last edited by D3nb3r; January 8th, 2015 at 10:17 AM.

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    Apparently a lot of people (your mechanic included) still think that 3-cylinder engines are inherently inferior to 4-cylinder engines, even if displacement and power/torque outputs are equal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by chronicle View Post
    i could easily go 18km/l on highway driving on mirage... (80 to 120kph *3-3.5krpm)
    the thing with 3 cylinders, it is best for city driving but is also capable on highway
    driving. if you are going to haul people and things with it, then go for 4 bangers. if mostly alone, 3 bangers are alright.

    if you are willing to shell out money on brio, maybe, you should also consider suzuki swift, toyota yaris, mazda 2 just for the sake of comparing.
    Thanks for your input,sir...we're still reconsidiring the mirage.totl of mirage is just the starting price of brio and this is what we are really thinking.
    ahaha...im just looking for a 2nd car that i can used on daily basis.a reliable, low maintenance and esp the consumptions.budget is still the problem thats why im seeking help.hehehe...

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    we have the same problem pero ang nasa top requirement ko is reliability so i am leaning more on jimny kaya lang kahit 2nd hand mahal e, so nag iisip din ako kung mirage or wigo
    good luck!

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    If you're on a budget and are looking for a cheap but well-packaged and fuel efficient car, the Mirage is your best bet.

    It's the most efficient gas-fed automatic car in the market right now, and is the only one in its class with high-end features such as push button ignition, Bluetooth, GPS, leather steering wheel with audio controls, automatic climate control, and so on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ano727 View Post
    Hi, would you recall hw much km/l it did during the eco run? Thanks.
    Sorry I can't recall the exact figures but probably Sir Niky would know? It was the article where the Swift 1.4AT were being compared against the Chevy Cruze Diesel, Benz C-Class Bluetec(?) and the Prius. The Prius came out first but it was a close match against the Swift. The Cruze and Benz were a bit far behind. I think the Prius hovered around the 14 to 16kms/liter area. What I liked about the review was that it was real-world driving, no hypermiling methods applied.

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    I'd vote for Mirage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    If you're on a budget and are looking for a cheap but well-packaged and fuel efficient car, the Mirage is your best bet.

    It's the most efficient gas-fed automatic car in the market right now, and is the only one in its class with high-end features such as push button ignition, Bluetooth, GPS, leather steering wheel with audio controls, automatic climate control, and so on.


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    The Mirage is really efficient whether its the manual or CVT. Power is also adequate and vibrations are quite controlled
    for a 3-cylinder. Much much better NVH vs. the Wigo. It has high-end features but on daily use, I find some of it quite
    annoying.
    - Smart Entry system isn't very smart
    - There's an exterior trunk release button but when you open it without unlocking the doors first, the car will alarm
    - Locking/unlocking the car makes a loud irritating chirp (reminds me of old school alarm systems)
    - Audio/Navi system isn't really that nice to use and sound quality is terrible
    - Automatic climate control doesn't seem to be "automatic" even if I set it on automatic mode, fan speed does not seem
    to change unless I change the temp. But it sure does look nice vs. normal knobs

    At the end of the day I'd still get the Mirage vs. Wigo. If I had the extra budget, I'd also consider the Brio

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    based on my experience a smaller engine can consume more fuel than bigger engine ones.
    why? because you need for it to go full throttle to attain your required and desired highway speed.
    its not because of the number of cylinders or the displacement of the engine.

    classic example: i average around 12-13 kpl in my 1.6 MT altis, but around 10 kpl in my getz.
    but, i only average around 9 kpl in my altis in city driving, but around 11 in my getz.

    but the advantage of smaller displacement engines is that it is very suitable for city driving.

    btt, i prefer the mirage.... more toys.... second choice would be the wigo....
    Last edited by 1D4LV; January 12th, 2015 at 11:49 AM.

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    may 2nd hand na bang brio?

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    Halos walang bumibili ng Brio so mukhang matagal pa bago magkaron sa secondhand market.


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