New Montero Sport 4x4, Fortuner 3.0 4x4 or Sta. Fe 4x4.

**toronegro** · December 15th, 2008 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by LadyRider

Yep the owner is from Baguio! Dito sya sa Manila nagpapaset-up ng SF nya.

MS mags ..... it$ a 24",saw it on cardomain.com
24" size matters

**toronegro** · December 15th, 2008 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by ianmitsulancer

*doc vince- nice 20" rims...

i think i saw this particular Sta Fe in Brent School Baguio last December 1...

*JPG111- thanks for sharing the picture ganda rin ng mags... bagay sa MS... i have a strong feeling its 22 or 23"...

sir..it$ a 24" mags, saw it on cardomain.com
24" size matters astig ang dating

**toronegro** · December 15th, 2008 11:06 AM

wrong post for you ,,thats for sir ianmitsulancer,,,peace

**niky** · December 15th, 2008 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by FPJ

Paanong naging Executive SUV ang Fortuner at Montero? How can we define being an executive by the way. You mean Henry Sy will ride this SUV?

No way!

I dont believe in this CAGI. Pera-pera lang yan.

While the CAGi makes some money from advertising, it's just sufficient to run the testing session. Logistics, testing, catering and auditing all cost money. Individual CAGI members don't receive any renumeration from participation... in fact, some people do so much work there, they deserve to be paid for their contributions.

It's impossible to buy the awards because the award judging is done by anonymous voting... about 15-20 people voting at any one test-session. It's not like the voting is by paid text-messages...

While I'm personally surprised by two or three winners, that's how the voting came out... and a lot of the voting was very, very close, with the winner being decided by fractional points.

Like carlocaraddict always says... don't judge a car unless you drive it. And that's how CAGI's PCOTY is judged... by how a car drives. Doesn't matter if it's not the newest, not the most high-tech... if it drives better, looks better and rides better, it'll get the win. Though this last part makes the Hilux win strange... though from what I recall, pick-up testing included a scored off-road portion for the 4x4s, so it must have impressed the heck out of the off-road judges.

While some of my personal bets didn't win, I can understand why they lost... it's a simple matter of creature comforts. Don't matter if the Honda Jazz is 1,000,000 times better than the Vios... the VIos rides softer and has softer seats. Apparently, for many judges, that's a deal-breaker.

Thus the X6 lost because, despite being a technological marvel, it has a restricted rear seat and doesn't ride as softly as a Mercedes, the CR-V lost because, despite the softer new suspension, it's not as supple as the Forester or Outlander... etcetera, etcetera, etcetera (we own a CRV... and while it's a great car, it could be a little softer still).

The Fort and Montero are "Executive" in the sense that they're SUVs and they cost more than 1m yet under 2m (SUVs over 2 million are Luxury, or something... over 5m is "Exotic", I think... but I don't remember the price cut-off).

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While some automotive journalists do have their "loyalties" you can't claim all of them are crooked. And that's a whole lot of journalists voting on the CAGI.

**welscua** · December 16th, 2008 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by niky

While the CAGi makes some money from advertising, it's just sufficient to run the testing session. Logistics, testing, catering and auditing all cost money. Individual CAGI members don't receive any renumeration from participation... in fact, some people do so much work there, they deserve to be paid for their contributions.

It's impossible to buy the awards because the award judging is done by anonymous voting... about 15-20 people voting at any one test-session. It's not like the voting is by paid text-messages...

While I'm personally surprised by two or three winners, that's how the voting came out... and a lot of the voting was very, very close, with the winner being decided by fractional points.

Like carlocaraddict always says... don't judge a car unless you drive it. And that's how CAGI's PCOTY is judged... by how a car drives. Doesn't matter if it's not the newest, not the most high-tech... if it drives better, looks better and rides better, it'll get the win. Though this last part makes the Hilux win strange... though from what I recall, pick-up testing included a scored off-road portion for the 4x4s, so it must have impressed the heck out of the off-road judges.

While some of my personal bets didn't win, I can understand why they lost... it's a simple matter of creature comforts. Don't matter if the Honda Jazz is 1,000,000 times better than the Vios... the VIos rides softer and has softer seats. Apparently, for many judges, that's a deal-breaker.

Thus the X6 lost because, despite being a technological marvel, it has a restricted rear seat and doesn't ride as softly as a Mercedes, the CR-V lost because, despite the softer new suspension, it's not as supple as the Forester or Outlander... etcetera, etcetera, etcetera (we own a CRV... and while it's a great car, it could be a little softer still).

The Fort and Montero are "Executive" in the sense that they're SUVs and they cost more than 1m yet under 2m (SUVs over 2 million are Luxury, or something... over 5m is "Exotic", I think... but I don't remember the price cut-off).

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While some automotive journalists do have their "loyalties" you can't claim all of them are crooked. And that's a whole lot of journalists voting on the CAGI.

+1

ako dito. Ex. the Toyota Hi Lux 4x4, Total Yemen has 30 units of these great pick-ups (2500, 4x4, D4D). Off-road, rough-road, 30deg slope, very dependable sila kahit loaded kami (O.T.).

I prefer the Monetro Sport kasi pag nakikita ko yung Santa Fe I remember the police in Yemen, Santa Fe kasi ang service nila dun. Fortuner, parang super laki nya for its engine. Mas sporty ang Montero Sport.

SHARING IS CARING

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**JPG111** · December 16th, 2008 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by welscua

I prefer the Monetro Sport kasi pag nakikita ko yung Santa Fe I remember the police in Yemen, Santa Fe kasi ang service nila dun.

Santa Fe Police Car? Ok ah, service siguro ng mga high ranking police officials sa Yemen

**alainroyce** · December 16th, 2008 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by JPG111

Santa Fe Police Car? Ok ah, service siguro ng mga high ranking police officials sa Yemen

O.T. in other country specially in europe they need a faster car to chase the bad guy..here is some picture in london..

EVOX

Outlander

While in Italy they need a much faster vehicle to chase the speed violator like ferrari..

Lamborghini Gallardo

http://www.seriouswheels.com/cars/to...Police-Car.htm

**welscua** · December 16th, 2008 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by JPG111

Santa Fe Police Car? Ok ah, service siguro ng mga high ranking police officials sa Yemen

Nope, just plain police patrol car (blue color), naka park sa mga checkpoint sa Sana'a City. In Dubai, Sta Fe cost around 79,000 dirhams, multiply that by 13 pesos per dirhams you will get around 1,050,000. Same price ng LX Carens here in Phils. Fortuner and Montero Sport are considered higher in class sa Dubai, don't know why.

SHARING IS CARING

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**ferdine** · December 16th, 2008 07:57 PM

[QUOTE=welscua;1167985
I prefer the Monetro Sport kasi pag nakikita ko yung Santa Fe I remember the police in Yemen, Santa Fe kasi ang service nila dun. Fortuner, parang super laki nya for its engine. Mas sporty ang Montero Sport.

SHARING IS CARING

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Siguro nga proven talaga ang SF pang habol ng mga bad elements of the society. And to me this is good news. Ma-aasahan pala ang SF as a chase car in middle east countries na mainit.