Need opinions on which to buy

[bjreyesmd]

I will be replacing my 2014 Ford Everest. My budget is 2.5M max. This will be my alternate vehicle and also will double as a family vehicle. At the moment I am looking at the 2017 Pajero with VGT, Subaru Forester XT, Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sport and Honda Odyssey.
My heart is leaning towards the soon to be phased out but iconic Pajero. What do you think guys? Other suggestions are welcome. More HP to all.

[GTi]

IMHO the Forester and the Jeep would be the most fun, depending on your idea of fun.

I personally find the Odyssey rather small and unappealing, especially when the top of the line Carnival is similarly priced.

The Pajero offers the best resale value, good off road capabilities, decent engine performance and 7 seats all in one package. Jack of all trades, master of none?

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[Egan101]

If performance is a primary consideration, then the Forester XT is the quickest and the most agile among your choices, not to mention the cheapest. For 2.5M, maybe you can consider the Explorer FWD 2.3L Ecoboost or maybe the Outback 3.6 or increase your budget to accommodate the Explorer Sport AWD 3.5L Ecoboost or Mazda CX9 2.5L turbo.

However, if you are looking for a 7-seater, then the Subarus are out of the question as they are only 5-seaters.

[EQAddict]

+1 to what egan said.

How long do you intend to keep the car? Thats important as well. I see youre selling your everest after 3 years. If you will replace the car in 3 yrs id go for the Explorer. If you intend to keep it longer than the Pajero or Jeep would be my choice.

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[bjreyesmd]

I usually change cars at least after 5 years. The reason I'm letting go of the Everest is due to AT problems that I feel would get worse as time goes on. Anyway, I'm not really after so much on performance but a reliable vehicle that would give no problems in at least 5 years.

[dr. d]

I usually change cars at least after 5 years. The reason I'm letting go of the Everest is due to AT problems that I feel would get worse as time goes on. Anyway, I'm not really after so much on performance but a reliable vehicle that would give no problems in at least 5 years. Also, should be able to withstand the weather in Metro Manila.

fortuner.
bukambibig.

and it'll probably remain bug-free for a long time.

btw, is that the AT coupling sa ilalim? ilan nang ganyan ang narinig ko... but is easy to fix daw..

[bjreyesmd]

fortuner.
bukambibig.

and it'll probably remain bug-free for a long time.

btw, is that the AT coupling sa ilalim? ilan nang ganyan ang narinig ko... but is easy to fix daw..

It's worse than that, transmission overhaul ang recommendation ng casa.
Anyway, the Fortuner at has a long waiting time, around 4 months. Plus, I'm shying away fro ladder frame SUVs at the moment.��

[niky]

Buy and sell within five years?

FJ Cruiser.

Sure, it's gimmicky, and it drinks a bit in traffic... 4.0 six cylinder engine... but it has better handling and a better ride than the Jeep, it's got a sturdy LC/Prado underchassis, dependable mechanicals, and INSANE resale value. You won't lose as much money off it in five years (best case scenario, supplies FINALLY dry up this year, and you can sell it for near brand new value then), and if you want to "play" with it in the meantime, there are a ton of dress up mods, power mods and off-road mods available.

Which you can remove and resell when it's time to let go of the vehicle, also.

[bjreyesmd]

Buy and sell within five years?

FJ Cruiser.

Sure, it's gimmicky, and it drinks a bit in traffic... 4.0 six cylinder engine... but it has better handling and a better ride than the Jeep, it's got a sturdy LC/Prado underchassis, dependable mechanicals, and INSANE resale value. You won't lose as much money off it in five years (best case scenario, supplies FINALLY dry up this year, and you can sell it for near brand new value then), and if you want to "play" with it in the meantime, there are a ton of dress up mods, power mods and off-road mods available.

Which you can remove and resell when it's time to let go of the vehicle, also.

Hmm, I think I will consider the FJ. Is the ride comfortable? How are the rear seats? Of course the car will also double as a family vehicle so my kids and a yaya will also get to ride in it. Is it better compared to the Pajero? Thanks!

[MR_BIG18]

Hmm, I think I will consider the FJ. Is the ride comfortable? How are the rear seats? Of course the car will also double as a family vehicle so my kids and a yaya will also get to ride in it. Is it better compared to the Pajero? Thanks!

seats? same as the jeep, cramp inside, ride quality is not as comfy as a crossover...remember those behemoths are built for the off road..

[leonleon]

Of course the car will also double as a family vehicle so my kids and a yaya will also get to ride in it.

Good luck with that.

Masikip sa loob ang FJ.

[AITNIMRA]

Hmm, I think I will consider the FJ. Is the ride comfortable? How are the rear seats? Of course the car will also double as a family vehicle so my kids and a yaya will also get to ride in it. Is it better compared to the Pajero? Thanks!

FJ ride quality is way better than those mid-size SUV out there. As for the rear seats, it is almost the same legroom with sedans but it feels cramped at the rear area due to the small windows of the "suicide" doors.

[Walter]

Hmm, I think I will consider the FJ. Is the ride comfortable? How are the rear seats?

You also need to consider the not-so-convenient rear doors ...

[Egan101]

How about considering a totally different option? A sport sedan perhaps. If I have something around that budget, I would spoil myself and get a Lexus IS350.

[bjreyesmd]

How about considering a totally different option? A sport sedan perhaps. If I have something around that budget, I would spoil myself and get a Lexus IS350.

Bro, the IS 350 is my other car 😀

[Egan101]

Bro, the IS 350 is my other car ��

Lucky you! I guess what you need is an all-around utility vehicle with a good amount of comfort built into it. The Explorer, CX9, Santa Fe, and Pajero are a few options for 7-seaters.

If you just need a 5-seater with enough space and more than decent performance, the Forester XT will be one good bet.

[bjreyesmd]

Yup bro, what I need is an all around utility vehicle. Anyways, wil probably take the Forester out of consideration for the meantime. My wife is currently driving a Honda CRV and I realized the Forester would be my foremost consideration when it's time to replace it, so there's no point in buying it now.

How about the Jeep Wrangler? Is it reliable? The Pajero I know has a good history with regards to reliability.

[minicarph]

last week I was gunning for the FJ. after xtensive research, I realized it was an old V6 engine a decade ago which was improved last 2010. so if it's a decade ago, pre financial crisis 2008, then it's certainly one of the gas guzzlers on that era. according to American users, highly reco ang premium gas. so it figures, I drive also a 2005 ford explorer, recommended din ang premium gas. V6 tend to have fuel related problems after 10 years of owning. kaya siguro naninigurado sila sa gasoline.

now, let's analyze the local stock, at P1,866M ni hindi electronic ang seats, fabric seats with a touch of leather lang, and the super liit windows which will be very difficult to drive sa congested parts like may motor, tricycle, pedestrian, beggars. sigurado may matatamaan ka dyan. it doesn't even have proximity sensors like my wildtrak, eh mas mura pa wildtrak ko with mitigation collision and lane assist and an advance sync 3 system.

you're basically buying the FJ for its look and its association with the old FJ 40, eh ano ba yun looks na yun camper shell upper body na walang silbe or value once the engine becomes problematic.

when my Ford Explorer eddie bauer was new, It had a 245/65R17 tires na averaging 4-5km/liter sa city drive. when I replaced my tires, I opted to get the FJ specs tires at 265/70R17. guess what's my average fuel consumption, 2km - 3km/liter wow! I monitor this real time cause naka connect ako ng OBD wireless sa iphone.

so given that both my Explorer and the FJ has the 4.0 SOHC V6 engine, I think these FJ owners are spending a lot in fuel sa metro. hehe

so pass na ako sa FJ. plus sa panahon ngaun, ano ba sense ng may spare tire sa likod, dirt magnet lang yan coz mahirap linisin yan pag nagmamadali ka. I know coz of all my cars, yun Pajero ang pinatakamad ako linisin kasi ang tagal linisin yun spare tire area sa likod.

[bjreyesmd]

Thanks for the inputs! As a car guy myself who puts value to performance, in this case, I have to consider my kids needs too. Based on what you guys are telling about the FJ, it may not be suitable for them. Aside from being my alternate car, it will also function as a family vehicle.

[babyishcare]

If I had a good PC, I don't think I'd ever choose Xbox over PC.
But, the simplified combat system seems a better fit for consoles. I'm personally not a fan. Having played Chivalry, I felt like the combat was lacking a certain freeness and depth. And with Mordhau and Mount & Blade 2 coming out, I can't really justify buying the game.
You do you. It seems like a much more laid back game, so console's probably the better choice.