(Maintenance) Jazz vs Vios

[Bry]

Kung pang-company fleet....

I know na masmahal mag maintain ng Honda vs. maintaining a Toyota. Pero in the case of the Jazz vs. Vios, malaki ba ang price gap nila in terms of maintenance? Kasi I'm leaning towards the looks of the Jazz, both have good mileage (1.3L), maintenance costs lang ang in question.

TIA

[kmo]

i think kung pang fleet lang just get the 1.3 m/t vios less headache kapa

[nemo's friend]

i had the Jazz 1.3S CVT, dunno if this will make a difference in your decision but when the battery expired i had to bring it to the casa for replacement. may "adjust adjust" "program program" pa daw sa CVT. syempre additional ka-tsing, ka-tsing (cash register sound hehe)

hindi sya "plug & drive" ... as most of us are used to when replacing car batteries

... hindi na po ako Jazz owner ngayon ;-)

[niky]

The Honda 1.3 MT would be less difficult to maintain than the CVT. And it has a longer oil change interval than most cars (10,000 kms between oil changes).

[finchy18]

vios pre...

[alwayz_yummy]

i had the Jazz 1.3S CVT, dunno if this will make a difference in your decision but when the battery expired i had to bring it to the casa for replacement. may "adjust adjust" "program program" pa daw sa CVT. syempre additional ka-tsing, ka-tsing (cash register sound hehe)

hindi sya "plug & drive" ... as most of us are used to when replacing car batteries

... hindi na po ako Jazz owner ngayon ;-)

ngii..pano kung sa bundok ng tralala ka nagpalit ng baterya? sobrang hassle naman yan...

[jeff]

magkano ba PMS ng jazz 1.3S na manual?

[squala]

i had the Jazz 1.3S CVT, dunno if this will make a difference in your decision but when the battery expired i had to bring it to the casa for replacement. may "adjust adjust" "program program" pa daw sa CVT. syempre additional ka-tsing, ka-tsing (cash register sound hehe)

hindi sya "plug & drive" ... as most of us are used to when replacing car batteries

... hindi na po ako Jazz owner ngayon ;-)

So CVT has a downside after all. Is this procedure also necessary for the CVT Lancer?

Tsaka oo, paano pag nasa remote area ka nga at naubusan ng batt Jazz CVT mo? Di pwedeng i-series yan?

[zechs]

to all,
actually its not a downside. cvt just needs reprogramming that even the owner can do it himself/herself. i have a copy of the procedure and its really easy to do. no need to pay anyone to do it for you.

PMS for i-dsi engines average about 2-3K..only when you're going to change the spark plugs will the cost goes up. coz the i-dsi engine uses 8 spark plugs. so PMS would amount to around 7K. but hey, you could always buy your own spark plugs and not from the casa...that would lessen the price to around 5-6K...

[baiskee]

same lang yan.

[nemo's friend]

ngii..pano kung sa bundok ng tralala ka nagpalit ng baterya? sobrang hassle naman yan...

na jumpstart naman namin and na-drive hanggang casa

[OTEP]

It's gonna be a close call if you have both serviced at the dealership.

But if you have your own fleet master and/or motor pool mechanic, you will have an edge with the cheaper VIOS parts.

[batang_raon14]

So CVT has a downside after all. Is this procedure also necessary for the CVT Lancer?

Tsaka oo, paano pag nasa remote area ka nga at naubusan ng batt Jazz CVT mo? Di pwedeng i-series yan?

Perhaps answered na pero to answer re: lancer, ang nagkakaproblem lang naman sa program eh ung SMS indicator. Lagi na syang naka-on after mo magpalit ng battery. Reprogram nga ng ECU un pero pwede mo pa naman ibyahe.

Dunno re:the Jazz though. Pero as far as charging the batt through series, pwede naman. So, pwede mo pa maiuwi kung sakaling remote area ka nga or if that's too far from reality, well, let's just say nearest casa.

[woods]

By perception , mataas talaga maintenance cost ng Honda due to 10,000 KM PMS as compared to Toyota na 5,000 Kms. lang. But in the long run , owners of both vehicles won't notice the difference.

[Pro Staff]

di ko masagot un tanong kasi wala akong barkadang may jazz pero just an fyi, religiously every 3 months/5k km (whichever comes first) ang PMS sa casa ng vios namin, average ng 3k+ ang damage. gamit fully synthetic na kaya every other PMS ang palit ng langis, 2k+ kapag top-up lang and 4K+ kapag palitan na un langis and sparkplugs.

medyo OT na tanong, OK lang ba kahit hindi every 5K ang PMS, laki rin kasi ng damage e?

[jarhead]

the casa is just cheking the ECU if meron ba makita error code... but pwede naman magpalit ka ng batt and idrive mo agad... chineck nila kung meron trouble code ang trans mo or the engine kc electronic na tlga lahat... but still i would go for the jazz.. i know some med rep naka vios and naka city... mas tomatagal yun mga city kesa vios daw... hehehehe.... and same engine and transmission lng ang jazz and city......

[OTEP]

di ko masagot un tanong kasi wala akong barkadang may jazz pero just an fyi, religiously every 3 months/5k km (whichever comes first) ang PMS sa casa ng vios namin, average ng 3k+ ang damage. gamit fully synthetic na kaya every other PMS ang palit ng langis, 2k+ kapag top-up lang and 4K+ kapag palitan na un langis and sparkplugs.

medyo OT na tanong, OK lang ba kahit hindi every 5K ang PMS, laki rin kasi ng damage e?

Sa akin lang, if you religiously service the car every 5,000 kms. and do not use it for racing or anything extreme, just stick to mineral based oil. Sobrang mahal ng synthetic kaya pangit ang cost/benefit ratio kung normal usage lang. Castrol mineral based oil (the one I used in the Vitara), Php430.00 lang ang 4L. So kahit palitan ko ng palitan, it will never be close sa cost ng synthetic. Parati pang fresh ang oil ko.

Saka every ilang km ba ang palit ng spark plug? Bakit sa post mo parang ang dalas?

For reference, a normal service stop for a Pajero does not cost more than Php2,000.00. Partida na kasi higante ang oil filter ng Pajero and 6 liters ang capacity.

[Pro Staff]

Sa akin lang, if you religiously service the car every 5,000 kms. and do not use it for racing or anything extreme, just stick to mineral based oil. Sobrang mahal ng synthetic kaya pangit ang cost/benefit ratio kung normal usage lang. Castrol mineral based oil (the one I used in the Vitara), Php430.00 lang ang 4L. So kahit palitan ko ng palitan, it will never be close sa cost ng synthetic. Parati pang fresh ang oil ko.

Saka every ilang km ba ang palit ng spark plug? Bakit sa post mo parang ang dalas?

For reference, a normal service stop for a Pajero does not cost more than Php2,000.00. Partida na kasi higante ang oil filter ng Pajero and 6 liters ang capacity.

my rig's sparkplugs are changed every other PMS (at least according to the receipt hehehehe), so in my case every 10K km/6 months

ibabalik ko na lang ulit sa mineral oil, normal usage lang naman ako e

[lancer]

By perception , mataas talaga maintenance cost ng Honda due to 10,000 KM PMS as compared to Toyota na 5,000 Kms. lang. But in the long run , owners of both vehicles won't notice the difference.

Sir, papaano ka naka conclude na mas mahal ang longer period intervals kaysa shorter period interval (10K KM PMS or 6 months and 5K KM PMS or 3 months which ever comes first)?

In the case of shorter period interval, ideally you visit service shop 4 times a year while in the longer period interval its only twice a year. The point is you pay for the labor cost everytime you visit the service shop. So for example for the ordinary maintenance of change oil and filter, you change 4 times a year. IMO

[lm723]

IMO, Vios. Ung 1.3 E or J.