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    Quote Originally Posted by 12vdc View Post
    Seriosuly why drive over the floods? The safest depth is gutter-deep, if you could no longer see the gutter then don't proceed.
    During college days in the flood prone manila school, you do get caught and be stranded if you dont have a car that can traverse small flood areas. during those days school cancellation happens late, sometimes very late so chances are most student with cars are already in school and will get stranded there if the surrounding streets are flooded. switching from a sedan to a small SUV helped me get out of those situations.

    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i have a theory why some concrete flyovers and stuff easily flood.
    i think it's because, sometime during its construction, someones drained their cement-laden effluent waters into the drains, thus clogging said drain pipes...
    The building and flyovers need to be signed off before the Construction company can get paid, if there is a block in any drainage it will be dealt with before being handed over. There is most probably just a blockage in the drainage pipe and it has not been properly de-silted or the construction company didn't anticipate the amount of water flow going to that specific drain area and had placed a smaller sized drain pipe that can't handle the increased flow of water. Again it might be a design mistake by the engineers but as long as the construction company followed the plans then it is not their fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ale828 View Post
    During college days in the flood prone manila school, you do get caught and be stranded if you dont have a car that can traverse small flood areas. during those days school cancellation happens late, sometimes very late so chances are most student with cars are already in school and will get stranded there if the surrounding streets are flooded. switching from a sedan to a small SUV helped me get out of those situations.
    submarine alley! aka espana street, in front of UST.
    'twas common knowledge, back then.
    even basic diesel-engined PUJs, and sometimes, PUBs and large diesel trucks, feared it.
    fortunately, it had since been elevated.

    ang worry na lang ngayon, quezon avenue users, are the segments near Sto Domningo, Tuazon, Maceda, and of course, that infamous street of "i was not informed..." lore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    submarine alley! aka espana street, in front of UST.
    'twas common knowledge, back then.
    I crossed the thigh deep waters of Espana once 3rd Gen Mirage (singkit Lancer)

    Weeks later, the A/C retainer got stuck and the fan belt gave up. still better than our FX (burned the starter - twice during the 3 years I used it as a back-up car going to UST)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    I crossed the thigh deep waters of Espana once 3rd Gen Mirage (singkit Lancer)

    Weeks later, the A/C retainer got stuck and the fan belt gave up. still better than our FX (burned the starter - twice during the 3 years I used it as a back-up car going to UST)
    Haha tibay nga ng Lancers sa baha! I remember many years ago I was attending a birthday party in Las Pinas with some friends. There was a sudden downpour and flood, but my old pizza pie took it like a champ

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    The whole riles area from Tondo to Santa Cruz to Blumentritt to Espana are all flood-prone. The train tracks itself might not be in deep water, but the immediate environs typically are. Even the trucks going to the pier via A Bonifacio could not move past Blumentritt.

    Dati puro stainless jeep sa area na yan, ngayon siguro panay SUV or Crosswind na.


    I wonder if the Blumentritt floodway project had a positive effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    judge judy once made cuento,
    "when i was in college, my dad didn't buy me a corvette or a bimmer or a pony car. he bought me a caddy! so there i was, driving a grandfather's car as my classmates zoomed past me in their sports cars. but dad said, 'if you get into an accident, i'd feel better, knowing you are wrapped and protected by a big metal box and not inside a small tincan of a car.' ".
    Quote Originally Posted by ale828 View Post
    switching from a sedan to a small SUV helped me get out of those situations.
    In my day, our folks told us to be grateful to have even been given anything to drive, not because they couldn't afford to give us better; they simply believed that pampering their kids would eventually make them into weak willed adults ("lampa").

    "Matuto kayong tumayo sa sarili nyong paa, at umayos ng problema sa buhay. Kung gusto nyo ng magandang sasakyan, bilisan nyo magaral and buy it yourselves!"

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    back to the thread subject...

    I think that a lightly modified entry level pick-up should be a good back up vehicle when the weather is bad.

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    Kung pambaha lang naman (sacrificial) na secondary car, you could consider a lifted owner type jeep (aba, low priced daw eh) custom parts and engine din

    Bibili pa ba ng brand new na balak lang laspagin ipang-lusong... sayang naman...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles_on View Post
    Bibili pa ba ng brand new na balak lang laspagin ipang-lusong... sayang naman...
    same as those na bumili ng pick-up nung pandemic tapos biglang upgrade para pang-camping...

    feeling ko ako lang ata ang wala nun... told my wife na mag-babalik ang mga hotel once Covid is over

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    Yung hindi ko gets is yung purpose ng snorkel.

    If the water gets that high up to the hood, lubog na rin lahat ng electrical parts (alternator, aircon, relay boxes, battery terminals, etc.) the system will short out soon enough, even if hindi mapasukan ng tubig from the air intake.

    Perhaps someone here on the forum can enlighten...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    submarine alley! aka espana street, in front of UST.
    'twas common knowledge, back then.
    even basic diesel-engined PUJs, and sometimes, PUBs and large diesel trucks, feared it.
    fortunately, it had since been elevated.

    ang worry na lang ngayon, quezon avenue users, are the segments near Sto Domningo, Tuazon, Maceda, and of course, that infamous street of "i was not informed..." lore.
    Ah I remember back in college in the 90s in UST, pag bumaha, I would sometimes see may nag jetski sa Espana hehe. But I think they fixed it na now or still binabaha?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugsmobile View Post
    Ah I remember back in college in the 90s in UST, pag bumaha, I would sometimes see may nag jetski sa Espana hehe. But I think they fixed it na now or still binabaha?
    tinambakan na. tumaas nang... siguro one meter (?), in my rough estimate.
    ang university grounds na ngayon ang binabaha yata.

    in my opinion,
    government should invest in powered drainages. i mean, pumps that push rainwater out into the sea.
    because ncr is very near sea level, it won't do to rely on ytivarg alone.

    in recent times,
    ermita and malate and karatigs would suffer flooding after heavy rains.
    authority mentioned reasons (lame excuses, in my opinion), why this is so.
    i am wondering, why are districts practically beside the seawall, suffering from flooding?
    Last edited by dr. d; April 5th, 2024 at 07:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugsmobile View Post
    Ah I remember back in college in the 90s in UST, pag bumaha, I would sometimes see may nag jetski sa Espana hehe. But I think they fixed it na now or still binabaha?
    Binabaha parin pero medyo mabilis humupa. If youre coming from P.Noval, mababa ang portion ng Espana sa area na yan hangang doon sa G.Forbes.

    Nalala ko noon the column shifted 4D56 L300, nasa pedal na ang tubig, i think that was somewhere in Malabon-that time hindi pa elevated ang streets and wala pang floodgates. Ilang bearings din nasira noon at laging sira ang aircon compressor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles_on View Post
    Yung hindi ko gets is yung purpose ng snorkel.

    Rice car mod for 4x4s ... but some actually do use it ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles_on View Post
    Yung hindi ko gets is yung purpose ng snorkel.

    If the water gets that high up to the hood, lubog na rin lahat ng electrical parts (alternator, aircon, relay boxes, battery terminals, etc.) the system will short out soon enough, even if hindi mapasukan ng tubig from the air intake.

    Perhaps someone here on the forum can enlighten...
    I've read some stuff that said they're not actually for water crossing, but more to get an air intake that's above most of the sand and dust for desert or safari type driving.

    Edit: Found this on youtube. It agrees that the primary purpose of dust nga, but also mentions water crossings but with preparation also done on the rest of the vehicle. Snorkel by itself wont be good enough, need to do other stuff like seal the airbox, extend diff breathers, etc. Also says that there are "snorkels" that are really just raised air intakes.

    Last edited by Dr.Kamiya; April 6th, 2024 at 08:04 AM.

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