Looking for low-priced vehicle for the floods

[12vdc]

Seriosuly why drive over the floods? The safest depth is gutter-deep, if you could no longer see the gutter then don't proceed.

Wheel hub height of your vehicle is the most obvious indicator of how high it could do water crossing without damaging the drivetrain esp the wheel bearings. If you keep the gutter-deep in mind, even a sedan with 14" wheels could do just fine with gutter-deep floods.

12yrs na pala si TS naghanap, siguro naman nahanap na nya. Kahit Malabon at Obando hangang doon sa Taliptip sa ginagawang new Airport tinaas na mga kalsada, pwede na mag sedan. Kahit dyan sa UST Espana at G.Araneta if you keep in mind the gutter-deep principle then hindi ka magkakaproblema.

[dr. d]

Seriosuly why drive over the floods? The safest depth is gutter-deep, if you could no longer see the gutter then don't proceed.

well, sometimes we simply have no choice on the matter...
so the next best thing is to have a tall-ish vehicle to drive in.

i am confident, if flooding is non-existent in our driving routes, the number of SUV sales will be significantly lower.

[Walter]

Seriosuly why drive over the floods? The safest depth is gutter-deep, if you could no longer see the gutter then don't proceed.

Rescue situations ...

[ice15]

if you could no longer see the gutter then don't proceed.

this is what irritates me with Pinoy drivers...

I now use my Vespa to work 90% of the time...

When it rains hard, 2-3 parts of the EDSA Kalayaan flyover will be flooded (gutter deep - around 6 inches)

We motorbikes cross the floods, together with L300s and delivery trucks.

The main cause of traffic? Crossovers and SUVs (mostly Fortuners and Monteros) who try to avoid the flood

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When Walter revived this thread last March, I was thinking, does he need a vehicle to cross floods in Espana? or Visayas Ave cor Tandang Sora flood (you feel the water hitting the floor of your car while passing)

[dr. d]

Seriosuly why drive over the floods? The safest depth is gutter-deep, if you could no longer see the gutter then don't proceed.

actually,
the gutter is that depression running parallel to the road, usually at the periphery of the road. it drains water off the road.
thus, the gutter is the first part of the road to get wet and get covered by water. sometimes, the road ain't flooded, but the gutter is.

what we are probably refering to in the statement quoted above, is the curb.
this is the edge of the (elevated) sidewalk. in local lore, it can be anything from one to three inches higher than the road surface or gutter beside it, to even a foot tall, depending on the designs of the designer.

[viper888]

I dont pass Kalayaan Flyover when its raining hard, it can easily flood on one side. Of course SUV drivers will try to avoid the flood because they dont want to have to pay for repairs for bearings or brakes. L300 and delivery truck drivers dont give an F because theyre usually hired to drive and its not their car.

The depth of a flood on the flyover is deceiving because there are no reference levels to see, when youre there you dont know if its 4 inches or 12 and all you see is a reflection.

Kalayaan Flyover flooding probably happens a few times per year so I would not call it a cause of traffic

[dr. d]

I dont pass Kalayaan Flyover when its raining hard, it can easily flood on one side.

i have a theory why some concrete flyovers and stuff easily flood.
i think it's because, sometime during its construction, someones drained their cement-laden effluent waters into the drains, thus clogging said drain pipes...

[Walter]

Another reason would be the water pump is not working ... if the drainage was clogged ... it would be flooded all the time ...

[dr. d]

Another reason would be the water pump is not working ... if the drainage was clogged ... it would be flooded all the time ...

i am reminded of the Lagusnilad, in front of manila city hole.
for some reason, since its construction, it leaked at the surface, probably due to leaking pipe-age underneath, and flooded easily during heavy rain, due to non-functioning pumps.
it recently had a major overhaul. i await the rains!
heh heh.

[ice15]

Of course SUV drivers will try to avoid the flood because they dont want to have to pay for repairs for bearings or brakes.

the flood is not even deep enough to reach the Fortuner/Montero's stock rims.

I guess their protecting their tire blacks

[dr. d]

some folks choose their vehicles for the utility.
others, for the bragging rights.
heh heh.

[ice15]

some folks choose their vehicles for the utility.
others, for the bragging rights.
heh heh.

its either their protecting their tire black or they don't want their tire valves to get wet...

isipin na lang natin na baka masira TPMS nila kapag nilusong sa baha!

[Verbl Kint]

the flood is not even deep enough to reach the Fortuner/Montero's stock rims.

I guess their protecting their tire blacks

I know many people who bought a Fortuner/Montero/Everest as their first car. Literally, the first car they bought after driving school. My hunch is nag-iingat pa kasi mga noobs sa kalsada at takot sa baha.


May kakilala nga ako, bumili na ng Montero, di pa tapos sa course niya sa Ewan Driving School.

[dr. d]

I know many people who bought a Fortuner/Montero/Everest as their first car. Literally, the first car they bought after driving school. My hunch is nag-iingat pa kasi mga noobs sa kalsada at takot sa baha.


May kakilala nga ako, bumili na ng Montero, di pa tapos sa course niya sa Ewan Driving School.

judge judy once made cuento,
"when i was in college, my dad didn't buy me a corvette or a bimmer or a pony car. he bought me a caddy! so there i was, driving a grandfather's car as my classmates zoomed past me in their sports cars. but dad said, 'if you get into an accident, i'd feel better, knowing you are wrapped and protected by a big metal box and not inside a small tincan of a car.' ".

closer to home,
my boy drives the ancient altis, even as it is a relative gas guzzler, and not the comparatively gas-sipping wigo,
for the same reason.

[ale828]

Seriosuly why drive over the floods? The safest depth is gutter-deep, if you could no longer see the gutter then don't proceed.

During college days in the flood prone manila school, you do get caught and be stranded if you dont have a car that can traverse small flood areas. during those days school cancellation happens late, sometimes very late so chances are most student with cars are already in school and will get stranded there if the surrounding streets are flooded. switching from a sedan to a small SUV helped me get out of those situations.

i have a theory why some concrete flyovers and stuff easily flood.
i think it's because, sometime during its construction, someones drained their cement-laden effluent waters into the drains, thus clogging said drain pipes...

The building and flyovers need to be signed off before the Construction company can get paid, if there is a block in any drainage it will be dealt with before being handed over. There is most probably just a blockage in the drainage pipe and it has not been properly de-silted or the construction company didn't anticipate the amount of water flow going to that specific drain area and had placed a smaller sized drain pipe that can't handle the increased flow of water. Again it might be a design mistake by the engineers but as long as the construction company followed the plans then it is not their fault.