Lancer Cedia GLX or Vios 1.3J

[after11years]

*homer_jay: Sa totoo lang naextend yung budget namin dahil gusto ng nanay ko yung City. Medyo pinagawayan pa pero okay lang. )

*jom's Actually, maganda naman talaga yung Honda. Kaso lang mahal. =))

The Celerio caugt my attention kanina when I was in TriNoMa but then, same with the Yaris, luggage space is near zilch. )

[tidus1203]

Mas ok naman ang Yaris sa Celerio... The Celerio rear seats is cramp the Yaris is as good as a Vios...

[jut703]

I've read somewhere that the main problem of car shoppers is that when they visualize their needs when looking for a car, they tend to exaggerate too much and end up getting features that, though good in concept if you actually utilized it at its fullest, don't get used that much or at all.
An example they gave was getting a much bigger SUV that was much harder to live with than a crossover because they entertained the possibility that they might need to haul a boat.

Now the trunk issue of the Yaris vs City isn't that clear cut, but I think that a month's load of groceries would fit in a Yaris, especially since you're only 3 in the family. Also, yes the City has more space, but in the end, either car can sit 4 well enough, and 5 with the City is less of a squeeze but it shouldn't be all that bad.

The displacement disparity of the engines is actually in favor of the Yaris. It gives you much broader power delivery, great torque and more peak power. But the best part is, despite all those perks, it comes out as fuel efficient or even more so than the City. Plus, the Yaris is more fun to drive.

Other minor nitpicks I have that make me favor the Yaris more include:

- Steel rims. I would really wish for better rims for my one and only car.
- 2 speakers. I know they both have shitty sound, but if I won't be spending on a new sound set-up, I'd at least want to have 4 speakers. Last car I've ridden with 2 speakers was the AE111 XL, over 13 years since it's been released.
- Airbags. Ok I don't really mind since I believe safe driving and seatbelts beat airbags anytime, but it's nice and gives the placebo confidence in the car.
- The A is a base model. This basically sums up my nitpicks. I just have a thing with getting the barest model of a line, often due to the fact that they sacrifice way too much features just to differentiate grades further. Of course this is just a personal thing.

Anyway, I would still go with the Yaris. It's obviously better speced, looks better (for me), and is a really great city car. Plus, I think it can handle your Bicol trips. Well I've gone to Subic with 6 passengers and their luggage in an AE101, considerably without hassle. I know Bicol is probably quadruple the distance and the Yaris is a smaller car, but hey you'll be going with half the number of people and luggage.

[jom's]

*after11years mukhang tukayo talaga tayo, my wife mentioned yang celerio, kahit tingin ko parang sobrang liit nya kailangan silipin parin namin ng wife ko, isasama na rin namin sa pagsilip yung swift & jimny he he...

*tidus1203 agree ako na parang laking okey naman yata ng Yaris sa celerio...

[after11years]

*tidus1203 Just considering it if some **** happens in my mom's office and the family budget suddenly reverts to P550k. But I won't expect that to happen, my mom's surely gonna make all hell break loose because it would be so unfair if we don't get P650k.

*jut703 Actually yan rin iniisip ko. But something that happened just last May... traumatized me. Imagine three duffel bags, three huge cakes, four casseroles, lots of finger food and whatnots, party stuff, my laptop bag and my camera bag in the Civic with three passengers. I think it's because we didn't remove the maintenance bin sa trunk (because we would have needed it kung nasiraan kami along the road) but the trunk was SUPER FULL, then the cakes were already in the rear seat, and mom was carrying a plastic bag on her laps while I was carrying my laptop. For three freaking hours. This makes me want to go for the City talaga. But I still won't rest the case of the Yaris naman, ipapakita ko sa parents ko then if they like it, malay mo. I'm so sure they'll consider the luggage rin naman eh.

*jom's Sa totoo lang hindi ako naliitan sa Celerio. That's coming from me. Ask *jut703 why it's some sort of achievement for the said car na. HAHAHA. Anyway, it's just for a back up plan just in case some **** happens in my mom's office, just as I've said earlier. And I kinda prefer the Celerio (na may 2 airbags AND ABS?!?) A/T over a Vios J.

[renzo_d10]

a11y : Pangit celerio. Rear seats are cramped and also it's front. Parang tinipid nga eh. Ta's wala pang power windows sa rear.

Alto < Celerio < Yaris < Vios J < City

[after11years]

a11y : Pangit celerio. Rear seats are cramped and also it's front. Parang tinipid nga eh. Ta's wala pang power windows sa rear.

Alto < Celerio < Yaris < Vios J < City

Ironically naluluwagan ako sa loob ng Celerio, pero I don't think my parents will really consider it when we're forced to go on a lower budget. Personally, parang mas gusto ko yung Celerio kaysa Vios J but the Vios J is admittedly a good car naman.

[jom's]

*after11years hindi ko ma-imagine kung gano lang kalaki celerio, pero you got me curious, although I am just 5'7" hindi ako nagpapahuli sa width he he...

[anonemus]

Ironically naluluwagan ako sa loob ng Celerio, pero I don't think my parents will really consider it when we're forced to go on a lower budget. Personally, parang mas gusto ko yung Celerio kaysa Vios J but the Vios J is admittedly a good car naman.

If you're considering the 3-cylinder Celerio, might as well take a look at the 4-cylinder Hyundai i10. It seems to have bigger interior space as well.

[after11years]

*jom's I'm 5'8 and very wide. Hahaha. I still prefer the interior space of bigger cars though. Siguro lang nashock ako kasi I was expecting a really masikip Celerio, but it wasn't that bad. )

*anonemus Noted, but I guess we'll cross the 550k bridge once we get there (which I hope is NEVER)

[ben_david19]

all I can say, don't buy a Suzuki kei car (Alto, Celerio) if you don't have a 2nd car which is bigger. pero kung pang-sarili lang, Suzuki kei cars are the best around.

Celerio like Alto, maliit lang ang space nito. palaging kawawa ang nakasakay sa likod dahil maliit ang legroom. design and engine lang talaga sila nagkatalo that is why hindi naman malaki ang price difference nila.

why not try the Avanza? pasok ito sa budget niyo. space and budget.

[skyglider]

i own a City '04 M/T and it really serves its purpose. FC wise talagang matipid sya. I'm getting 12-13 km/l city driving and 16+++ km/l highway driving..

personally, tingin ko kahit sabi ng iba na mahal ang maintenance pag honda eh para sa akin ayus lang. bawing bawi ka naman sa FC...

tapos, andami talagang pwedeng ikarga sa trunk... one time nga umuwi yung mga biyenan ko sa province... walong maleta yun dala nila nagkasya sa backseat at trunk... naisip ko nga parang van yung auto ko.

agree ako kay sir ben_david19, why not consider Avanza in your list... ako nga i'm wishing na Avanza yung maging next car... hayyyyyy!!!

[jom's]

*after11years lolz bro lamang ka lang siguro sakin ng konti he he...

*skyglider & ben_david19, isa rin sa choices namin yung Avanza J for 613K,
as for the celerio kailangan silipin din namin sya, utos ni kumander hehe, I will see with my wife paguwi kung ano talaga yung magugustuhan naming dalawa, parang hindi lang yata nasama sa option nina bro after11years yung avanza..

[JohnPatrick]

Mga sir, pasakay sa topic about lancer Cedia (GLX manula specifically) -
Ano ba talaga ayaw ng mga tao sa Lancer 1.6 na to?
Sa specs mukhang ok naman for money talaga.
Alam ko galit sila sa fact na old design na daw to.
Let's say, I don't mind the old design. Ano pa ba pangit sa Cedia?
Compare for example to Sentra GX 1.3 (both are bnew).
And next, compare to a 3-year old, same price, 1.6 Toyota Altis.
Thanks

[p_borj]

Mga sir, pasakay sa topic about lancer Cedia (GLX manula specifically) -
Ano ba talaga ayaw ng mga tao sa Lancer 1.6 na to?
Sa specs mukhang ok naman for money talaga.
Alam ko galit sila sa fact na old design na daw to.
Let's say, I don't mind the old design. Ano pa ba pangit sa Cedia?
Compare for example to Sentra GX 1.3 (both are bnew).
And next, compare to a 3-year old, same price, 1.6 Toyota Altis.
Thanks

actually, bang for the buck talaga ang Lancer Cedia GLX. kaya lang ayaw nang mga tao dito dahil;

1. old body, old design - for me, IMO maganda pa rin ang porma nito.
2. old technology - yes, old technology ang gamit pati sa engine. 1.6l ito pero hindi kasinglakas nang mga VVT-DOHC na 1.3 nang Toyota.
3. kilala ang lancer sa pagiging kalampagin, and maybe true pero not a big deal, madali lang din naman ipaayos kung may kalampag na.

for me overall, panalo pa rin ang Lancer. big space, powerful engine kahit old tech, porma, value for money.

[after11years]

ben_david19: Noted. Thanks!

skyglider, jom's: The Avanza seems too bare, parang taxi feel talaga. Yung Vios hindi masyado kasi makapal rin yung mga nasa doors and all that and you still get a private feel once inside it but the Avanza screams TAXI talaga eh. We need space but we don't need lots of it, and I think my mother wants premium-looking cars and the Avanza is off that list.

JohnPatrick: That's one thing I don't really get but it has got to be something the bug also bit my dad who used to go LANCER LANCER LANCER.

p_borj: I actually agree with that. It's just that the City looks newer and more modern I fell in love with it as soon as I realized it's in our capacity.

[JohnPatrick]

p_borj and after11, thanks sa inputs mga sir.
Pa compare naman dun sa Sentra at 2nd hand Altis ko sa taas?
TY ulit

[after11years]

p_borj and after11, thanks sa inputs mga sir.
Pa compare naman dun sa Sentra at 2nd hand Altis ko sa taas?
TY ulit

If people have an irrational thing against the Lancer I think I have an irrational thing against the Sentra and Nissan in general. I have a friend who had a (and is very disappointed with the) Sentra, and a cousin who had an X-Trail (had kasi they're both in Singapore na, pinamana nila sa families nila yung cars). Di daw talaga maganda build quality, but the X-Trail is SUPER COMFORTABLE kung sa front seat ka nakaupo. Based on what my cousin said (and what I also observed), it rides like a luxury car sa harap, tapos parang pick-up sa rear seats.

About the 2nd hand Altis naman, it's 2nd hand. Why get an old one if you can get a new one instead?

I highly suggest you go get a Lancer.

[jom's]

*JohnPatrick, sa totoo lang one of my top choice ang lancer 1.6, I love what it offers for the price range, just like City & Vios sa research ko dito sa forums and asking around with friends, if ever isa dito sa tatlo yung mapili namin, I am sure we wont go wrong, sa ngayon kailangan ko lang makita yung mga unit in person, then best deal na makuha ko in terms of discounts before making the final decision and at the same time doing research for other options at paguwi ko lalagare kami sa mga dealers, Toyota, Honda, Mitsu, Honda, Hyundai, Suzuki, Mazda at Ford he he...

[myas110]

ben_david19: Noted. Thanks!

skyglider, jom's: The Avanza seems too bare, parang taxi feel talaga. Yung Vios hindi masyado kasi makapal rin yung mga nasa doors and all that and you still get a private feel once inside it but the Avanza screams TAXI talaga eh. We need space but we don't need lots of it, and I think my mother wants premium-looking cars and the Avanza is off that list.

sorry kung OT ako
are you referring to a white avanza only if it screams TAXI to you? e why not look for other color of the avanza? although the interior is not that great compared to those cars compared here. if you can modify the avanza and have a little money to modify, it will definitely not look like a taxi. it has lots of space but not a lot compared to, let's say an innova.