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    Kia Sorento (diesel) vs. Toyota Fortuner (gas)


    IMHO,

    They both look good (exterior).

    They both have not-so-good interior.

    They both have attractive pricing.

    Talo ang Sorento sa 'badging', because most people discriminate against Kia. The upside sa Sorento is walang waiting period.

    Hehe you get these random thoughts just pop up in your head when you're day dreaming about your Fortuner.

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    Bro, I have the same dilemna.

    Though am still keeping my fingers crossed for the Fortuner (though am aghast on my monthly amortization).

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    Sorento and bling bling

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    Hi kimpOy!

    Can you elaborate as to why you chose the Sorento over the Fortuner?

    Thanks!

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    maganda yung sorento (get the EX diesel though).

    quiet drivetrain, 5-speed auto, 4wd, rear LSD, good body rigidity, downside lang is interior is more cramped than fortuner's, some interior bits are rather downmarket, rear seat is far less comfortable than fortuner's.

    fortuner gas vs. sorento diesel, sa sorento ako. if only for the 4wd.

    pero kung fortuner 3.0 diesel vs. sorento diesel, fortuner 3.0 ako.

    imo, fortuner 3.0 > sorento 2.5 > montero sport > everest > alterra.

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    Yup I'm gunning for the EX. The LX is too bare, IMHO.

    I'll take a look at the Sorento sa Kia showrooms to gauge the interior space. Hopefully mas-maluwag sya sa current ride ko, '04 CR-V.

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    let me post the exact words of wolfden, offroad contributor at TopGear Phils Magazine, at 4x4ph.com

    Your in luck my friend, I just finished pounding the sorento over the week end in the Top Gear 4x4 proving grounds in tanay biggrin.gif there is a lot to say about the vehicle mostly great. Ill make a full report later.but initially....

    -Rides better than a fortuner
    -Available in crdi diesel and V 6 gas
    -very roomy
    -quiet engine and drive train
    -Tires SUCK change them when you get one!
    -Interior styling is much to be desired but liveable
    -the fortuner is still king in terms of ground clearance but approach departure and break over angle is in equal footing
    -a good option if you dont want to wait 8 months for a fortuner 1.3 m for diesel 1.2 gas
    -I wouldnt mind owning one
    Remember there ad tag line "prepare to be surprised?" its very true smile.gif Its nice to know that manufacturers are now more concious of build quality. Ex. is i wouldnt even consider owning a previous model mazda 3 coz it feels tin cannish but i bought a mazda 3 hatchback coz it feels very solid and well built nowadays...... Its the same with the sorento it feels solid and rides better than a fortuner.
    Value for money yes its has excellent value for money it s also equipped with abs the fortuner doesnt
    from the same thread

    Unlike the Fortuner, the Sorento passes both U.S. and European regulations for emissions and crash safety.

    Unlike the open-diff Fortuner, the Sorento has a rear limited-slip.

    The U.S. version has received good reviews-- especially in the value-for-money aspect.

    Though inferior off-road to the Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, it is superior to many other Suvs in its $25,000 price range.
    http://4x4ph.com/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=3&t=4852&

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    mas maluwag yung gen2 cr-v kesa sorento (or at least, more comfortable), particularly sa rear seat. at least, that's how it feels like to me.

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    kimpOy: Thanks! Very informative!

    mbt: Is that a typo? Mas-maluwag yung CR-V?! Is that sa rear seat lang o pati sa driver and front passenger seat?

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    yup parang mas maluwag yung cr-v. at the very least, they're very similar.

    hindi naman sa masikip yung sorento, maluwag lang talaga yung cr-v hehe. the load floor is about as big but the floor of the cr-v is significantly lower. the floor of the cr-v is lower too (thanks to monocoque chassis). the wheel wells intrude into the corners of the back seat of the sorento. the seat itself is low and puffy, compromising thigh support for adults.

    actually, come to think of it, the gen2 cr-v is definitely roomier than the much larger nissan patrol GU. blame truck-frame construction and live axles hehe.

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    Oh I see. Thanks for the info! I'll drop by sa Kia this wednesday.

    Thanks everyone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbt
    maganda yung sorento (get the EX diesel though).

    quiet drivetrain, 5-speed auto, 4wd, rear LSD, good body rigidity, downside lang is interior is more cramped than fortuner's, some interior bits are rather downmarket, rear seat is far less comfortable than fortuner's.

    fortuner gas vs. sorento diesel, sa sorento ako. if only for the 4wd.

    pero kung fortuner 3.0 diesel vs. sorento diesel, fortuner 3.0 ako.

    imo, fortuner 3.0 > sorento 2.5 > montero sport > everest > alterra.
    mbt is right... I think mas maganda ang Sorento EX CRDi than the Fortuner 2.7G. Especially because there is no waiting line.

    Value for money yes its has excellent value for money it s also equipped with abs the fortuner doesnt
    I dunno who said this... But, this is wrong. All Fortuner variants have ABS. Only the Hilux and Innova don't have ABS.

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    Thanks Vicoyski. This is very good to hear, specially coming from a Fortuner owner.

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    I dunno who said this... But, this is wrong. All Fortuner variants have ABS. Only the Hilux and Innova don't have ABS.
    correct all fortuners are ABS laden, the author, it seems is referring to LSD...kakalito minsan ang alphabet soup.

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    Sorento is a great looking SUV, with several awards to boast. I even almost bought one last April if not the Fortuner coming in May, I decided to wait. eventually I bought the Fortuner. no regrets.
    People are still having second thoughts on parting 1.3M of hard earned money on a brand that still needs to be up to pars with Japanese carmakers.
    Thats just my opinion.

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    Is the Sorrento the same as the Rexton?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kimpOy
    correct all fortuners are ABS laden, the author, it seems is referring to LSD...kakalito minsan ang alphabet soup.
    The 3.0V Fortuner has a Torque Sensing LSD. The 2.7G and 2.5G variants, however, don't have LSD, being 4x2s.

    Quote Originally Posted by Altis123
    Is the Sorrento the same as the Rexton?
    No, the Rexton is made by Ssangyong... I believe the Sorento would be a better choice over the Rexton. KIA, at least, has a more established name and dealership network in RP compared to SSANGYONG. The Rexton, however, benefits from it's German engineered engine.
    Last edited by vicoyski; September 26th, 2005 at 03:43 PM.

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    The Rexton is good if you like something with a Mercedes Benz drivetrain and other major bits. The latest batch of Rextons use the 2.7CRDi engine of the Grand Cherookee and MB ML270 CDI.

    BTTT:

    I am not going to wait 8 months for a Fortuner...

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    just to be clear (hehe), the Fortuner has the Torsen LSD on its center diff. off-road where you'd be locking the center diff anyway, the Sorento will have some traction (discounting the tires) advantage by way of an LSD in the rear diff.

    Sorento looks good in green with pewter accent. hehe.

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    In addition to what mbt has said, a Center Diff is not installed to improve off-road performance. It is there to enable fulltime 4wd operation.

    Off road, when traction demands are higher, you will have to lock the C/D and be in 'direct drive' mode with no differential effect.

    On the Sorento and other on-demand 4wd systems, there is no center diff because the moment you go into four wheel drive you are already in a 'direct drive' state.

    The LSD is a traction enhancing device. Though nowadays, very few manufacturers offer them since only a fraction of new 4x4's ever go off-road. Even fewer manufacturers offer fully locking rear diffs.

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