HR-V or CX-5

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Also in the same situation, how does the Mazda cx-5 compare in terms of long-term reliability/meintanance?

From what I've read at the Mazda thread, maintenance is quite on the steep side. Battery palang is around 15k daw? (correct me if I'm wrong), and its not included in the yojin package.

[niky]

From what I've read at the Mazda thread, maintenance is quite on the steep side. Battery palang is around 15k daw? (correct me if I'm wrong), and its not included in the yojin package.

The battery is the one thing that's expensive, because it's an automotive deep cycle, not a regular lead-acid.

Yojin is free service, fluids and filters. Non-regulalar or non-PMS consumables like batteries and brake pads are not covered, if I recall right.

[papi smith]

Why does it use a deep cycle battery?

[Walter]

^^^^ i-Stop technology.

[papi smith]

Wow, ngayon ko lang nalaman itong i-stop tech, thus making me google deep cycle battery, cause I always thought they were just for solar power use.

[Walter]

^^^ You might also be amazed with Variable Cylinder Management. Local Honda Accord V6 uses this technology and of course the high end German cars.

[papi smith]

That one I know, I think it was introduced in the previous generation of Accord.

[MR_BIG18]

^^^ You might also be amazed with Variable Cylinder Management. Local Honda Accord V6 uses this technology and of course the high end German cars.

Sir, i read somewhere that there are problems with honda's VCM tech.

[Walter]

Sir, i read somewhere that there are problems with honda's VCM tech.

VCM is a headache. Even Mercedes has issues with their VCM. Maybe that's why used Honda Accords with VCM are quite cheap on *******.

[niky]

VCM is a headache. Even Mercedes has issues with their VCM. Maybe that's why used Honda Accords with VCM are quite cheap on *******.

Secondhand V6s are always cheap. Just look at the price of used Camry V6s.

Nobody wants to buy a "gas guzzler" secondhand.

[papi smith]

But with the VCM tech, it is no longer a gas guzzler right? Unless the VCM is not working to address fuel consumption.

[Egan101]

But with the VCM tech, it is no longer a gas guzzler right? Unless the VCM is not working to address fuel consumption.

Is fuel consumption really a concern for such engine displacements? For big V6 or V8 engines with displacements bigger than 3.0L, don't expect it to have the same fuel consumption as a small 4-cylinder (below 2.0L) engine.

Besides, for cars like the Accord V6 or Explorer or CX9 with a price tag of more than 2M, I guess people who buy them have the means to spend for gas.

[StockEngine]

Cx5 wading 18-24inch water

Mazda CX5 Flash Flood Test - YouTube

[MR_BIG18]

But with the VCM tech, it is no longer a gas guzzler right? Unless the VCM is not working to address fuel consumption.

I think all cylinders are still firing in stop and go traffic, it only turns off at cruising speed, with the traffic in the metro, i dont expect to be on par with 4 cylinders.

[MR_BIG18]

Cx5 wading 18-24inch water

Mazda CX5 Flash Flood Test - YouTube

Nice to know its capable, not crazy enough to try it personally, maybe if i need to go to the bathroom badly

[niky]

But with the VCM tech, it is no longer a gas guzzler right? Unless the VCM is not working to address fuel consumption.

It does.

But VCM on the previous Accord only activated during light cruising... ergo... maintaining 60-80 km/h with a very light foot on the accelerator. Speed up a little bit, and VCM turns off. (on the new Accord, VCM stays on longer and under more conditions).

With two cylinders off, you still have 2.2 liters worth of engine running, pushing a 1.7 ton car.

With three cylinders off, you only have 1.8 liters worth of engine running, but it's still pushing a 1.7 ton car, as well as the other half of the engine that's not running.

In the end, the Accord was relatively economical for the power and size, but you would still be getting 3-4 km/l in traffic.

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HR-V vs. CX-3
CR-V vs. CX-5

[x.mayor]

the HR-V Mugen variant is awesome!

would go for it if I have the funds.

[Egan101]

the HR-V Mugen variant is awesome!

would go for it if I have the funds.

For the price of the HRV Mugen, the CX5 2.0 Pro or Forester 2.0i-L or Xtrail 4x2 or CRV 2.0S is a better proposition. Unless of course, you have that thing for accessories.

[minicarph]

HRV is a useless purchase coz when you're like 2 cars away, it will just be mistaken as a sedan. sobrang baba at mukang vios lang kung minsan. waste of money for this vehicle . mas muka pa SUV ang ecosport.