Fortuner 2.5G vs Montero Sport GLS 4x2

[jut703]

Sir ano po mas ok sa dalawa? Usually po kasi yung mga comparo dito ng Fort at MS yung 3.2 DiD pati yung 3.0 D4D eh. Kamusta naman po tong dalawang low-end versions? Ano po ba mas ok? Primary consideration po yung engine performance pati ride comfort. Tas siguro FC narin (pero I assume halos pareho lang).

Yung Fort kasi 102 HP lang tapos 260 Nm torque. Yung MS mukhang mas malakas 134 HP tapos 314 Nm torque. Both have the max hp at around 3500 rpm and torque at around 2000 rpm. Pero madami po ako nabasa kahit mababa specs ng Fort on paper ok naman daw. Pero how does it compare to the MS?

Thanks guys. :D

[renzo_d10]

Both has its each pros and cons. But for me, i`d get the MS.

Montero Sport

Pros:
> this has a better interior design than the fortuner
> this has a well, much more reliable diesel engine than of the fortuner
> has a better riding comfort
> slower in acceleration but faster in terms of top speed

Cons:
> engine sound is loud
> has well, problems too

Fortuner

Pros:
> better overall exterior design
> cheaper maintenance
> faster in acceleration

Cons:
> harsh ride
> the interior is soo beige-ish

[jut703]

slower in acceleration but faster in terms of top speed

Even the 2.5L versions of both SUVs? I've read this comment alot regarding the 3-liter versions and it sounds plausible since the MS is heavier giving it a disadvantage at standing starts, but not having a speed limiter (unlike the Fortuner which has the standard IMV limit of 180 kph) gives it a higher top speed.

For the lower displacements, however, doesn't the additional power and torque give the MS a performance advantage over the Fort in rektahan and arangkada? :D

has a better riding comfort

About this, they recently launched a 'new' Fortuner, which primarily boasts of improved suspension (obviously a response to the MS). Doesn't this level the playing field when it comes to ride quality?

[XTO]

Price difference? Php1,468,000.00 vs Php1,345.00.00. A difference of more than 100K makes the monty more easy choose over the Fort. You can get the 2.5 4X4 m/t with that price.

The Fort has been here for more than 3 years, next christmas and you're old.

[mazzipino]

There's now an M/T Fort for P1.349M.

But it's not there on the website.......

Modified Montys are really catching my eyes these days, especially with subtle bodykits.

[eggman]

There's now an M/T Fort for P1.349M.

But it's not there on the website.......

Modified Montys are really catching my eyes these days, especially with subtle bodykits.

That thing won't save the Fortuner against the Montero Sport cause its likely that MMPC will release a 4X2 M/T GLS variant pretty soon.. That would be way cheaper than the overrated Fortuner...

[mazzipino]

Jut703, I suggest do a search and you'll read alot of opinions from different people, owners and non-owners. Just try to avoid the fanboy comments and focus more on what matters to YOU.

[noobskie]

A test drive will surely tell you everything that we can never put into words. You can try borrowing a friend's unit, pero surely don't just look at the spec sheet, most of the time they don't tell you anything.

[my4tuner]

A test drive will surely tell you everything that we can never put into words. You can try borrowing a friend's unit, pero surely don't just look at the spec sheet, most of the time they don't tell you anything.

I for one is very satisfied Toyota Fortuner 4x2 d4d owner. On it's 3 1/2 years, it serves us well and I don't feel underpower. Responsive as what I can say... Manner of driving skills matters.

Whether your a previous Fort or facelifted owner. Fort's exterior looks brusko and pogi dalin.

So much for that, I will also advice you to test drive both. It will now depend on your personal preference. Both SUV has a good competitive edge and likewise weaknesses. The choice is yours..

[tercyu]

My basic personal opinion:

Montero:
Newer ( Fort just underwent faclift)
Exterior is more masculine (for me)
Price is cheaper

Fortuner:
Its been released 3 or 4 years ago
Very bumpy ride ( I don't know with the facelifted version)
D4D engines have been tested for years and has been satisfying many customers

My personal choice will be the MS since it is newer. Owning a fort as well is like owning a civic and vios nowadays. There's too much of it in the road as if its a generic car. Although the fort is still proven as a very respectable car.

Your call...

[renzo_d10]

D4D engines have been tested for years and has been satisfying many customers

You sure about this? Well, some might be satisfied but some aren't. Just look at the D4D problems thread ( the title might be similar )

[my4tuner]

You sure about this? Well, some might be satisfied but some aren't. Just look at the D4D problems thread ( the title might be similar )

this is just a fraction of people who are dissatisfied. That doesn't mean d4d engine have the same symptomatic problem. I feel so sorry for those who encountered d4d problem but, to begin with there is no perfect engine. Somehow, somewhere it will have glitches in the future. Thus, thousands of Fort and Innova owners fitted d4d engine are satisfied, if not very satisfied.

Look into the streets and you will know what predominantly seen SUV's and MPV's on the road. As a d4d fort owner, I have not encountered this and even my relatives who owns 2 d4d forts and 2 innova. It is a good investment and a reliable means of transportation to us.

Modesty aside, kwento ni mang juan, doesn't always apply to mang pedro, it will not always stand true and reliable. Though, it doesn't hurt to be cautious, right? We should not always believe in what we read unless you have seen it by your own very own eyes but, having a heads up on what might happen is very useful tool and information in the future. That is if the need ever arises..

We are here in Tsikot to educate, send the right message across and, help people and not scared them with stories which is so, so late 2005.

just my 2 cents worth..thank you

[Horsepower]

As of 2009, meron pa rin D-4D victims so it's not a 2005 issue.

[my4tuner]

As of 2009, meron pa rin D-4D victims so it's not a 2005 issue.

oh i see, thank you for informing me on that * horsepower. But it is still a small portion of d4d problem which still negates to the much, much bigger percentage of satisfied d4d owners.

[Horsepower]

Indeed it's a small percentage but those people spent a lot of money, some of whom their life's savings. The least Toyota could do is fix their vehicles for free.

Here's the weird part. Both Toyota and Mitsubishi use Denso Common-rail. So far, wala pa naman ako narinig na problem sa DiD (Pajero BK, Shogun, Strada Triton and now, MS).

Toyota should learn from Mitsubishi kung ano ang ginawa nilang seemingly working improvement sa Denso reference design. Only time will tell kung magloloko din ang DiD pero so far, wala pa.

On the other hand, Ford (Everest, Ranger) and Hyundai KIA both use Bosch systems.

[jaymd]

montero is faster than the 2.5L of toyota. the interior of the fort has been upgraded with leather seats, climate control. bluetooth radio, radio control on the steering wheel kaya mas luxurious na than the older model. maganda rin interior ng MS its sportier with out the fake wood dash and door trims. kung SPORTy type mo mag montero SPORT ka.

[jut703]

Thanks for the input guys. Mukha ngang more than meets the eye talaga yung D4D ng Toyota. I've got this friend with a 2.5G Fort kaso I don't know anyone who has a GLS 4x2 na Monty so I won't be able to compare.

The interior of the monty, sans the ugly aircon knobs as compared to the pretty auto climate control of the fort, actually looks more appealing to me. :D

[marktriton]

sabi ng isang nag comment dito na small percentage lang daw ang nagkakapoblem sa d4d engine, PANU kung ikaw ang makakuha ng small percent. anu mararamdaman mo? diba sakit sa ulo. so far wlang poblema ang did na injector or replace all fuel system or baba ang tanke, or naku boss may halong tubig diesel mo, or sira yun EGR mo, boss balik kana lang ulit for observation.

eh mas matagal pa sa casa yun sasakayan mo kesa sa KALsada.

mahirap sumugal lalo na kung meron ng proof na sirain tlga.

kaw ba gusto mo yun?

[projector]

sabi ng isang nag comment dito na small percentage lang daw ang nagkakapoblem sa d4d engine, PANU kung ikaw ang makakuha ng small percent. anu mararamdaman mo? diba sakit sa ulo. so far wlang poblema ang did na injector or replace all fuel system or baba ang tanke, or naku boss may halong tubig diesel mo, or sira yun EGR mo, boss balik kana lang ulit for observation.

eh mas matagal pa sa casa yun sasakayan mo kesa sa KALsada.

mahirap sumugal lalo na kung meron ng proof na sirain tlga.

kaw ba gusto mo yun?

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[the josh]

Mitsubishi Company today is totally different to the CHRYSLER-Mitsubishi before (when they produced a lot of lemon cars). Best way is do the research, test drive and follow your heart's desire