Everest 4x4 vs Santa fe 4x4

[lui]

santa fe din saken. 5yrs na po warranty sir

[Drave]

Sir drave,

youve explained before in the Strada Thread that you have to think of your growing kids and you have to have a car thats spacious that will fit your friends too. You go for the Sta. Fe.

It can seat the adults in the back unlike the Everest, the 3rd row is very cramped and painful.

Since you have your Strada. Its a proper off-road vehicle already.

You have a valid point there drey.

Again, thanks guys. I guess it's time to do some test drives

[kpy555]

Sir Drave, go for the Santa Fe since yo have the Strada already.

Ride is comfortable and engine performance is really good. Plus you get 5 years warranty which makes ownership of the Santa Fe more worry-free.

[lui]

You have a valid point there drey.

Again, thanks guys. I guess it's time to do some test drives

sir pwede po kau mag test drive ng santa fe samen. may test drive unit naman po yung HARI na pinapagamet kaso nde pa po sya 4x4

[yuichi]

SF ba di nakakatakot pag liliko? Para kasing malapad and nakakatakot baka magasgasan lalo na baka may gumitgit sayo.

sanayan lang ser, basta extra ingat ka lang din at huwag sumabay pag alanganin.

anyway SF ako- onroading at Eve- offroading.
Hyundai Alabang may available ng 4x4 SF

[lolo pepe]

engine size comparo:

SantaFe CRDi 2.2L (VGT): 153hp (343Nm)
Ford Everest Duratorq 3.0L CRDi (VGT): 156HP (380Nm)

hindi nagkakalayo sa power/torque, pero sa fuel consumption, malaki ang tipid ng 2.2 sa 3.0.

[niky]

Yup.

The Everest and Fortuner 3.0 CRDis get around 7 - 8 km/l in traffic. The Santa Fe can get 10+.

[yuichi]

engine size comparo:

SantaFe CRDi 2.2L (VGT): 153hp (343Nm)
Ford Everest Duratorq 3.0L CRDi (VGT): 156HP (380Nm)

hindi nagkakalayo sa power/torque, pero sa fuel consumption, malaki ang tipid ng 2.2 sa 3.0.

this is efficiency.

[mazdamazda]

Based on your requirements, the Santa Fe 4x4 is the best fit for you. The Santa Fe is the better on-road vehicle although the Everest isn't that far behind. The AWD & ground clearance of crossover SUVs can handle dirt trails out there in the provinces.

Though based on looks alone, it is the Santa fe if you want a luxurious & upscale vehicle. If you want a rugged & macho rig then it's the Everest.

[Blackraven]

If you are getting a Santa Fe 4x4..............get the 2.7 liter V6 engine

I just test drove the car with my dad (both 2.7 and 2.2 diesel) and I can say that the 2.7 V6 feels like a rocket sa straight-line acceleration.........while the 2.2 diesel felt a bit sluggish for me (older CRDI engine).

Plus, to add 4x4 sa diesel variant would cost you extra 200k or mga 1.6 million pesos (kasi intent order). This is around 200-300k more than the Santa Fe gas/petrol variant. Plus, the 2.7 V6 variant sold here has dual airbags and Infinity Premium Stereo and dual auto climate control.

So in short, if you are getting a Santa Fe, go straight for the V6 model.

Kung hindi (you want something higher from Hyundai), there is always the Veracruz Diesel which uses brand new diesel engine. (latest from Hyundai-Kia)

[Drave]

Once again, thank you for your replies.

Blackraven,

Your suggestion is well appreciated but I really prefer the diesel. Regarding the price, if I'm not mistaken, the 4x4 diesel variant is 1.653M while the gas variant is 1.588M so there's only a difference of 65k.

I plan to use the vehicle for 5 years or more so the 5 yr warranty is a blast.

Nagtanong din ako sa mga buy and sell boys at parang mas maganda raw ang resale value ng hyundai kesa ford. Ewan ko kung totoo yun.

[vctradingcubao]

Sir blackraven, mukhang diesel lover po yung original poster!

[vctradingcubao]

sorry, late post

[oldblue]

kung resale value lang pinoproblema, intay ka lang ng 1 year para mag-sink na sa mindset ng car buyers ang 5 year warranty ng Hyundai.

sigurado hindi na baba resale value neto

[niky]

As for resale... that depends on the buyers. The old Everest had poor resale because:

1. It's a Ford. Lots of people think of Fords as junk, simply because of American Ford quality. They don't realize that the Everest, Ranger, Lynx and Focus are European/Japanese vehicles.

2. It was unrefined (fixed, halfway) and underpowered (completely fixed) and a diesel-guzzler (fixed, mostly).

3. Ford resorted to lots of discounts to sell the slow, fuel-hungry old Everest. This destroyed the resale value of older Everests... why buy secondhand when you can buy it cheaper new?

Things should change with the new Everest, but change is often slow.

Regarding Hyundai resale... if Hyundai diesel resale is going up... great!... people are finally starting to respect Hyundai!

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I just re-read your posts, Drave... for provincial driving with no serious trail-blazing, the Santa Fe will do. In fact, the 4x2 Santa Fe will do. Unless you get stuck in knee-deep mud, there's not much that will hurt you in the 4x2 on normal roads or dirt trails... and you can still wade out of knee-deep mud with a 4x2, as you can still wiggle out (it's FWD) with some sawing at the steering wheel. It's in a front-engined RWD vehicle that you can get righteously stuck... but then, that doesn't happen all that often, either, and there are ways out of that, too.

A FWD 4x2 is inherently safer than a RWD 4x2 in the rain, since it has the tendency to track straighter in slippery conditions (as one member here, who left snow tires on his car, found out when his car started to hydroplane), while a RWD can spin once it loses traction (as one K.Quintal discovered to his horror some time ago).

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Heck, I'd be happy with a 4x2 Everest... simply because it has a rear-axle LSD, which also helps it find traction where other RWD vehicles have problems. And no, it's not like a raised Ford Fiera... the Everest has great steering, a refined (well, for a pickup based SUV) suspension, ABS/EBD and a turbodiesel to die for... that's about as close to a Ford Fiera as a Toyota Prado is to a Toyota Tamaraw...

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But for comfort's sake... I'd say take the Santa Fe. The Everest is tons of fun off-road, but if you're never going there, why bother?

[IMm29]

Santa Fe.

Since you're going to be using it on paved roads for 90% of the time, and perhaps the only off-road work it'll be doing is incidental. And perhaps like what Niky said, you just might need a 4x2. But hey, if you've got the budget for a 4x4, and for your peace of mind, get the 4x4.

[Rej248]

Sir Drave,
I'm going thru the pain of decision making myself but narrowed my choice to the SF or Fort. No offense to Everest owners but even with the refinements in looks... i still don't fancy it.

You won't go wrong with either of your choice if you stick with the basic questions:
1. If you can afford it? ....Obviously Yes, both are Php 1+++ M
2. Which is best for your practical(everyday) need? ... looks like a comfortable, family ride on paved roads tops your list
3. Will it suit your emotional need as well? (image, peace of mind, value perceived vs cost incurred,etc)...

For me though...hands down its the Sta Fe!!! (Stylish,refined,nice handling, smooth ride,creature comfort, 5 year warranty)...

[Drave]

To tell you the truth guys, my first and only choice before was the Forester FXT. It's a very well engineered piece of machinery, goes 0-100 in 6 secs., almost 8 inches minimum ground clearance, rallybred 4x4 drivetrain, 215 kph topspeed, same engine and platform as wrx, 5-star safety rating, etc. etc. But it suddenly occured to me that I have a growing family and the forester may only be good for the short term. Plus there's only one dealer/service center and there's gonna be a model change and possible diesel engine in 2009-10 (can't wait that long). And so the dream must end....

So my best bet now is the Santa Fe which is not so far behind and actually better for the long term.

Parang nagpagulo lang ng konti sa isip yung everest, no offense meant.

[bbt]

here's another reason to choose the santa fe:

http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showt...parking+ateneo

[oldblue]

puro naman Santa Fe, nakaka-umay na