COMPARO: Mid-size 4x2 AT Diesel SUV (Mu-X, TBZ, Montero, Fortuner, Everest, Sta Fe...

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grabe ang mga paliwag nyo dito, very enlightening lahat, sarap magbasa. thanks guys

[glenn manikis]

Another thing I like sa trailblazer Ltz is the sound system... It makes me feel young again...

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Another questions sir, *TS, sorry kung mejo OT.

Is the engine equipped with VNT compare to non-VNT/VGT, makes the engine to consume better FC or worst? TIA

The only difference lang po sa non-VNT/non-VGT sa VNT/VGT,

yung peak torque at HP (mas mabilis lang mag-accelerate ang VNT/VGT)

kung sa FC naman, depende sa mode of driving + yung weight factor (passenger(s) or yung mga kargang gamit,), road condition (straight, uphill, downhill), driving environment (stop and go traffic + extreme idling, city driving, combined city/highway driving, pure highway driving, off-road driving)

[andrewnathaniel]

The only difference lang po sa non-VNT/non-VGT sa VNT/VGT,

yung peak torque at HP (mas mabilis lang mag-accelerate ang VNT/VGT)

kung sa FC naman, depende sa mode of driving + yung weight factor (passenger(s) or yung mga kargang gamit,), road condition (straight, uphill, downhill), driving environment (stop and go traffic + extreme idling, city driving, combined city/highway driving, pure highway driving, off-road driving)

For example sir, same driving route and same type of driving. Parehas lang magiging FC sa non-VNT at sa VNT engines?

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For example sir, same driving route and same type of driving. Parehas lang magiging FC sa non-VNT at sa VNT engines?

Sir andrewnathaniel,

small difference lang po ang FC between non-VGT/VNT at VGT/VNT equipped. (2-3Liters difference) pero depende pa rin sa driving style and attitude.

sa city driving, lamang ang non-VGT/VNT, kaysa sa VGT/VNT, (w/o passenger, driver only) lalo sa stop-and-go traffic.
ang advantage ng non-V, yung acceleration period nya is delay a bit, unlike sa V, unting tapak lang, accelerate agad, pero kung gitgitan sa traffic ang usapan, magiging guzzler na ang V,

kung sa highway driving naman, lamang naman ang V kaysa sa non-V, during speeding, medyo madiin ng kaunti ang pagtapak sa gas pedal or prolong upshift in high-gear (MT) ng non-V, unlike sa V, light application, to during speeding (turbo difference)
and early shift in high-gear (MT)

paano naman po kung fully loaded?! let's say, nasa 7 passengers?!

almost the same din, kung sa city driving/stop-and-go traffic, medyo mataas na ang FC ng non-V, kaysa sa V, (kailangan na bigatan ang pagtapak sa accelerator pedal, to speed up, kasi sa V naman, compensate na yung power to weight ratio, non-V na yung takbo ng V once na merong passenger/load.

sa highway driving naman,

ganun din, pareho lang...

during cruise speed in highway?!

kahit magaan pa or full load ang non-V at V, dyan na malalaman kung magpapantay yung FC?
pwede magpantay, either maging FC efficient ang non-V sa V, or si V naman ang FC efficient kaysa sa non-V

[LancerA174A]

Car: 2015 Isuzu mu-X 4x2 LS-A

City FC: 6-7 Km/L (Provincial city, almost 0 traffic)
Highway FC: 12-14 Km/L

Update ko lang po guys, according to the MID, the highest City FC I got was 8.8 Km/L. Naglalaro na lang siya sa 8. something Km/L.

[andrewnathaniel]

Sir andrewnathaniel,

small difference lang po ang FC between non-VGT/VNT at VGT/VNT equipped. (2-3Liters difference) pero depende pa rin sa driving style and attitude.

sa city driving, lamang ang non-VGT/VNT, kaysa sa VGT/VNT, (w/o passenger, driver only) lalo sa stop-and-go traffic.
ang advantage ng non-V, yung acceleration period nya is delay a bit, unlike sa V, unting tapak lang, accelerate agad, pero kung gitgitan sa traffic ang usapan, magiging guzzler na ang V,

kung sa highway driving naman, lamang naman ang V kaysa sa non-V, during speeding, medyo madiin ng kaunti ang pagtapak sa gas pedal or prolong upshift in high-gear (MT) ng non-V, unlike sa V, light application, to during speeding (turbo difference)
and early shift in high-gear (MT)

paano naman po kung fully loaded?! let's say, nasa 7 passengers?!

almost the same din, kung sa city driving/stop-and-go traffic, medyo mataas na ang FC ng non-V, kaysa sa V, (kailangan na bigatan ang pagtapak sa accelerator pedal, to speed up, kasi sa V naman, compensate na yung power to weight ratio, non-V na yung takbo ng V once na merong passenger/load.

sa highway driving naman,

ganun din, pareho lang...

during cruise speed in highway?!

kahit magaan pa or full load ang non-V at V, dyan na malalaman kung magpapantay yung FC?
pwede magpantay, either maging FC efficient ang non-V sa V, or si V naman ang FC efficient kaysa sa non-V

Thank you sir dito sa magandang explanation. Now I know. Every car, whatever type it is, had its advantages and disadvantages. Thanks ulit sir.

[andrewnathaniel]

Update ko lang po guys, according to the MID, the highest City FC I got was 8.8 Km/L. Naglalaro na lang siya sa 8. something Km/L.

Wow nice FC. Sa Fort naming, yung City FC mo eh Highway FC na namin, based sa computer. Hindi na namin nasubukan yung manual computation eh

[ano727]

I hope may makapag-share ng experience nila with Everest, Alterra, kahit Trooper (useful for 2nd hand buyers).

Thanks to all who have shared so far.

[KingReyes]

Car: 2014 Hyundai Santa Fe 4X2 AT
City FC: 8 to 10 KM/L, Active Eco turned off (Shell V-Power Nitro Diesel)
Highway FC: 13 to 16 KM/L, Active Eco turned off (Shell V-Power Nitro Diesel)
PMS: Only at 3K KMs at the moment but for 1K KMs, PMS was 6,758.97 PHP in casa

Assessment:
• Accelerates fast and with minimal effort
• Extremely low NVH up to 160 KPH; anything over that produces a slight humming sound
• Fun to drive especially on twisty roads
• Excellent FC even if Active Eco is turned off
• Decent exterior
• Soft-touch materials in interior
• Cornering lamps are helpful especially in unlit provincial roads
• Dramatic lighting effect of DRL "eyebrows"
• Adjustable steering softness; "Comfort" for heavy traffic or while parking, "Normal" for everyday use, "Sport" for expressways
• Lots of available storage, deep center console

Key Issues/Concerns:
• All seats are manually adjustable except the two-way lumbar support for driver
• Faux honeycomb material around front fog lamps and rear reflectors look cheap
• 3rd row not suitable for 5'9"-and-up passengers
• Relatively expensive; at this price range, one would expect back-up camera, headlight washers and better HU