Compact MPV

[oj88]

Trying to decide on the following.

1. Suzuki Ertiga - 1.4L
2. Toyota Avanza - 1.5L
3. Nissan Grand Livina - 1.8L
4. Chevy Spin - 1.3L diesel or 1.5L gas

My initial sentiments:
1. We have a 1.4L Swift and it's barely quick and nimble. Putting the same engine in the Ertiga (essentially an extended-body Swift) could make for a sluggish vehicle.
2. I've driven a 2008 Avanza only once and it was a year ago. Can't recall much about the experience.
3. The Grand Livina seems to be the most powerful of the lot and probably the least fuel-efficient. However, it's cousin, the Nissan Note, is among the top 5 compact MPV in some countries.
4. The Spin seems to be the only model with a Diesel option. If the overall cost of ownership is low, I'd probably choose this. Unless...

My next step is to test drive each of these cars. Though that could take a while. In the meantime, I would very much appreciate any feedback from current owners.... Any notable problems on the vehicle, warranty, aftersales, parts availability, PMS costs, etc.

Thanks!

[jcal68]

Its a toss up for me between the Avanza and the Spin. I would go for the Spin had only their diesel variant have AT.

[chronicle]

Try to factor also the maintenance cost. Out of the 4 avanza ang may pinaka maraming parts sa market.

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[ACarEnthusiast]

Our Chevy Spin is our opinion a better choice than getting a compact sedan. Since its diesel it has clocked 19km/l combined city and highway. Better ground clearance also. But space is going to be tight for 7 people. Maintenance would be our downside since its fairly new so we have no ideas on the costs as of now.

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[boytsiks]

Our Chevy Spin is our opinion a better choice than getting a compact sedan. Since its diesel it has clocked 19km/l combined city and highway. Better ground clearance also. But space is going to be tight for 7 people. Maintenance would be our downside since its fairly new so we have no ideas on the costs as of now.

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Wow, ang tipid.

Boss, yung 19 km/l is full tank to full tank method or trip meter readings? Ilang per cent yung city drive dyan?

[ACarEnthusiast]

Mostly highway, mga 30% city driving. Havent tried the full tank method yet just based it sa trip computer.

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[victorevolution]

grand livina suits you perfectly

spin diesel- rather get an entry level toyota innova for that price
ertiga- as you said, you already know why
avanza- is so so so, no value for money.

the livina only has a single aircon system but this mpv is quick and nimble and can cruise at 190 kph easily, though i dont see the point why an idiot would do that this is not a race car. other than that get an innova which is not on your list

[oj88]

I didn't include the Innova as it is technically not in the same class as the others.

But since I started this thread almost a week ago, I am now also considering the Diesel Innova E A/T. It's the cheapest trim that's Diesel with an A/T.

[victorevolution]

I didn't include the Innova as it is technically not in the same class as the others.

But since I started this thread almost a week ago, I am now also considering the Diesel Innova E A/T. It's the cheapest trim that's Diesel with an A/T.

despite what they say, innova likenthe montero is a good buy, evidence is the no. of it you see int the street.

guguluhin kita, suzuki gv is cheaper to obtain now than an innova v and g, this is more durable than the monty and cheaper to maintain, since it's durable you wouldnt worry about the parts, just take care of your vehicle and follow the regular pms despite it's eagle high price

innova is somewhat a hybreed of an mpv and a people carrier, ladder frame that shares with the hi lux and fort.

[GTi]

Innova ka na. It's in the market for ten years already. Pretty much every mechanic knows it's strengths and weaknesses, how to fix it and where to get parts for it. Engine power is more than enough for normal family use, whether it be city or highway. Ladder frame chassis means it can take quite a lot of abuse, and it has surprisingly good flood wading capabilities.

Despite having coil springs at the back, I'm not particularly fond of the Innova's ride quality. I actually find the old Revo to be better in this regard.
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[oliver1013]

Own both a livina and an innova G ...livina is quick, surprisingly quick..easy to drive , maliit kaya swak sa mga singitan. Ang ayaw ko lang is iisa lang ang vent ng AC, pag tirik na tirik ang araw tapos puno, kaya naman niya palamigin hanggang likod yun nga lang naka full blast, ang ingay ng fan..then nasira pa yung vent control ng unit ko sakto nung maglapse yung warranty, may lumalabas na hangin sa may dash kaya nag momoist sa gabi, tinanong ko yung casa, 6k daw yung pull down palang ng buong dashboard di pa kasama yung parts na hindi pa alam kung ano, so pinabayaan ko nalang..hindi din siya matipid pero hindi ko rin naman masasabing matakaw siya sa gas, she has more or less the same FC like my 2 liter lancer EX and forester mga 8km/L sa moderate traffic. Naalala ko just to give you an idea, mga 2 mos ago, ginamit ko from mindanao ave to makati rush hour mga alas otso ng umaga, umilaw na yung empty, kinargahan ko ng 500, umilaw uli siya nung nasa eastwood ako, pabalik sa mindanao ave. do i hate the car? a resounding no, actually i like driving it from time to time, kasi maliksi, maigsi ang hood madali ipark, tapos para lang siya talaga kotse. Kotse na pag emergency at may mga gusto sumabay kasya pito..

[oliver1013]

Innova diesel, eto ang na surpresa rin ako kasi since diesel at galing ako sa fieldmaster at sa crosswind di ko akalain na ang ganda ng hatak, tapos matipid pa for my taste, pakiramdam ko halos doble ang natatakbo niya compared to the livina..kumbaga ba kung yung 500 ng livina papuntang makati from our place in mindanao ave ubos na gas sa eastwood pag balik, sa innova sa same amount in diesel, makakauwi pa ako at makakapunta uli till ortigas bago umilaw, tantiya ko lang...tapos maluwag di hamak sa livina, at kahit pa sa fieldmaster ko noon. Yung ride, ok din, hindi naman camry level pero para sa ganung sasakyan ok na, tsaka parang solid ang feel pag nalulubak, sa lagay na yan naka 17 pa yung sa akin, what more yung stock..kung ako sayo TS mag innova ka na...lalo na yung napupusuan mo na trim halos kapresyo o mas mura pa sa livina.

[crosswind]

get da innova but it cost's over a million
it's bigger,more powerful
fuel efficient,

[oliver1013]

Yung E ata na matic walang million, not so sure..Livina nasa 900plus ata....definitely expensive as brand new purchase. Yung akin kaya medyo ok lang, less than 2 years old nung ma acquire ko at P550k TOTL. But I wont recommend it that you buy it bnew..not worth it.

[crosswind]

Sir tama ka pero gas A/T yung under a million yung diesel m/t 999k yung matic over a million na
at yung grand livina small space and cost as the sportivo

[joeycaro]

Sir tama ka pero gas A/T yung under a million yung diesel m/t 999k yung matic over a million na
at yung grand livina small space and cost as the sportivo

TS, for an Innova D4D-i, the J model 5MT is at 887K while the entry level auto E model is at 1.057M.
Here's a complete list of diesel vehicles in the Philippines...

Diesel Vehicles in the Philippines (by price)

Above 800K-1M
Hyundai Accent HB 1.6 GL CRDi VGT 6MT - 808
Ford Ranger 4x2 Base Single Cab 5MT - 829
Hyundai H100 2.6 Shuttle Van w/ Dual AC - 832
Chevy Spin LS 1.3 CRDi DOHC 5MT - 839
Mitsubishi Strada GL 4x2 2.5 MT - 850
Isuzu D-Max 4x2 2.5 LT 5MT - 857
Toyota Hilux 4x2 J MT DSL - 858
Ford Ranger 4x2 Base Low Rider 5MT - 859
Isuzu Crosswind XT - 883
Toyota Innova J DSL 5MT - 887
VW Polo Sedan 1.6 TDi 5MT - 888
Chevy Spin LTZ 1.3 CRDi DOHC 5MT - 929
Ford Ranger 4x2 XL 2.2L 5MT - 969
Toyota Hilux 4x2 E 5MT DSL - 987

Above 1M-1.25M
Kia Soul 1.6 CRDI VGT LX 6AT - 1.02
Toyota Innova E 2.5 DSL AT - 1.057
Ford Ranger 4x2 XLT TDCi 2.2L 6MT - 1.089
Mitsubishi Strada GLX 4x2 AT - 1.085
VW Jetta 2.0 TDi 6MT - 1.098 (Candy White)
Nissan Navara 4x2 2.5 6MT - 1.140
Isuzu D-Max 4x2 3.0 LS 5MT - 1.144
Chevrolet Colorado 2.5 CRDi w/ FGT 5MT - 1.148
Ford Ranger 4x2 XLT TDCi 2.2L 6AT - 1.149
Isuzu D-Max 4x4 3.0 LT 5MT - 1.153
Kia Carens 1.7 CRDi LX 6MT - 1.155
Kia Carnival CRDi LX SWB 6MT 1.165
Isuzu D-Max 4x2 3.0 LS 5AT - 1.196
Mitsu Montero Sport 2.5 GLX 4X2 MT (non VGT) - 1.198
Toyota Innova V DSL AT - 1.231

[crosswind]

TS innova kanalang
tested na siya compared sa livina
i myself have a innova
travelled 139k kms.
cheap maintenance
parts are easy to find
yung manual maganda siya
di siya parang sa adventure