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    I have been reading threads these past weeks. I hope you could help me with this one in choosing between the two with the following factors--
    > Engine Performance including body roll, traversing wet and bumpy roads etc.
    > After Sales Service esp. PMS, Availability of parts, Warranty issues
    > NVH
    > Reliability and Dependability. The 2014 US Dependability Study Rating did not feature ratings for the particular above models.
    > Infotainment System
    > Value for money, also Resale Value
    > Practicality in terms of:
    -- Having an old passenger like my parent (ie Ground Clearance),
    -- Carrying heavy loads like 2 sacks of rice etc when coming from the province,
    -- Passable floods with below knee Depth,
    -- Occasional light off-roads like gravel/rocks and sands,
    -- Confidence on the vehicle with regard to seldom accidental running over stray dogs, grazing goats and medium-size debris that fall from trucks etc on the road which do happen. These are all typical scenarios when traveling to the province. The latter happened to me with my Monty and Strada and just had insignificant/minimal effect. I am satisfied with my Mitsus, but I want to try other rides.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeph View Post
    I have been reading threads these past weeks. I hope you could help me with this one in choosing between the two with the following factors--
    > Engine Performance including body roll, traversing wet and bumpy roads etc.
    > After Sales Service esp. PMS, Availability of parts, Warranty issues
    > NVH
    > Reliability and Dependability. The 2014 US Dependability Study Rating did not feature ratings for the particular above models.
    > Infotainment System
    > Value for money, also Resale Value
    > Practicality in terms of:
    -- Having an old passenger like my parent (ie Ground Clearance),
    -- Carrying heavy loads like 2 sacks of rice etc when coming from the province,
    -- Passable floods with below knee Depth,
    -- Occasional light off-roads like gravel/rocks and sands,
    -- Confidence on the vehicle with regard to seldom accidental running over stray dogs, grazing goats and medium-size debris that fall from trucks etc on the road which do happen. These are all typical scenarios when traveling to the province. The latter happened to me with my Monty and Strada and just had insignificant/minimal effect. I am satisfied with my Mitsus, but I want to try other rides.

    Thanks!

    Based on your specific requirements and pattern you mentioned, coming from Monty and Strada, and you did not mention any issue with ride quality, Chevrolet Trailblazer LTZ suits you better. Especially it's power and torque will be useful for your 2-sacks of rice load.

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    trailblazer mas bagay. flood, off road gravels, rocks, sands. at yung 2 sacks of rice and other stuff

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    Any news regarding the NVH of the new TB 2014 vs the Sta. Fe? I sometimes hear in mall parking area the throttle of TB, maybe because of the timing chain, perhaps.

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    The ground clearance of the TB is also something I consider, I think, in my case, considering my female passengers, is really higher than the Monty even with the step-board... If I wont consider my passenger, I will really go 100% for TB actually...

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    Can you please give comparison between the two vehicles based on the criteria I gave above? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeph View Post
    Any news regarding the NVH of the new TB 2014 vs the Sta. Fe? I sometimes hear in mall parking area the throttle of TB, maybe because of the timing chain, perhaps.
    driven both. mas maganda NVH ng sta fe. pati engine tahimik. kung no idea ka ano ang engine, aakalain mong gas sya. tahimik talaga

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    Both are good. But the TBZ outweighs the SF to your requirement.


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    > Engine Performance - 4x2 vs 4x2, same acceleration when you floor it, but the Santa Fe feels a bit more responsive when overtaking

    including body roll, - Santa Fe is more steady

    traversing wet - Trailblazer has higher ground clearance and better flood fording. But grip on slippery roads, that goes to the Santa Fe.

    and bumpy roads etc. - Trailblazer is tougher. Santa Fe more comfy.

    > After Sales Service esp. PMS, Availability of parts, Warranty issues - PMS similar, no big warranty issues reported yet for either.

    > NVH - Santa Fe is better.

    > Reliability and Dependability. The 2014 US Dependability Study Rating did not feature ratings for the particular above models. - They don't sell the Trailblazer in the US, and the Santa Fe there is gasoline only. These are new models, nobody knows yet.

    > Infotainment System - Draw. Both are decent, but not truly outstanding.

    > Value for money, also Resale Value - Hard to say. New cars. Santa Fe MIGHT have the edge. Or might not.

    > Practicality in terms of:
    -- Having an old passenger like my parent (ie Ground Clearance), - Old passengers have a harder time getting in taller cars. The TB is taller, but comes with a stepboard.

    -- Carrying heavy loads like 2 sacks of rice etc when coming from the province, - TB

    -- Passable floods with below knee Depth, - Both can do knee depth. The TB can do higher. Up to 800mm. The Santa Fe can only do 500mm. While the official wading depth of the TB is 800mm, it can do up to grille level for short stretches. (don't try this at home, though.)

    -- Occasional light off-roads like gravel/rocks and sands, - Don't drive a 4x2 into deep sand. Unless you enjoy digging on your hands and knees to place rocks for traction. Both can do light gravel. TB can take more abuse, but the Santa Fe's FWD might give it more traction in the mud.

    -- Confidence on the vehicle with regard to seldom accidental running over stray dogs, grazing goats and medium-size debris that fall from trucks etc on the road which do happen. These are all typical scenarios when traveling to the province. The latter happened to me with my Monty and Strada and just had insignificant/minimal effect. I am satisfied with my Mitsus, but I want to try other rides. - TB should be a bit tougher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    > Engine Performance - 4x2 vs 4x2, same acceleration when you floor it, but the Santa Fe feels a bit more responsive when overtaking

    including body roll, - Santa Fe is more steady

    traversing wet - Trailblazer has higher ground clearance and better flood fording. But grip on slippery roads, that goes to the Santa Fe.

    and bumpy roads etc. - Trailblazer is tougher. Santa Fe more comfy.

    > After Sales Service esp. PMS, Availability of parts, Warranty issues - PMS similar, no big warranty issues reported yet for either.

    > NVH - Santa Fe is better.

    > Reliability and Dependability. The 2014 US Dependability Study Rating did not feature ratings for the particular above models. - They don't sell the Trailblazer in the US, and the Santa Fe there is gasoline only. These are new models, nobody knows yet.

    > Infotainment System - Draw. Both are decent, but not truly outstanding.

    > Value for money, also Resale Value - Hard to say. New cars. Santa Fe MIGHT have the edge. Or might not.

    > Practicality in terms of:
    -- Having an old passenger like my parent (ie Ground Clearance), - Old passengers have a harder time getting in taller cars. The TB is taller, but comes with a stepboard.

    -- Carrying heavy loads like 2 sacks of rice etc when coming from the province, - TB

    -- Passable floods with below knee Depth, - Both can do knee depth. The TB can do higher. Up to 800mm. The Santa Fe can only do 500mm. While the official wading depth of the TB is 800mm, it can do up to grille level for short stretches. (don't try this at home, though.)

    -- Occasional light off-roads like gravel/rocks and sands, - Don't drive a 4x2 into deep sand. Unless you enjoy digging on your hands and knees to place rocks for traction. Both can do light gravel. TB can take more abuse, but the Santa Fe's FWD might give it more traction in the mud.

    -- Confidence on the vehicle with regard to seldom accidental running over stray dogs, grazing goats and medium-size debris that fall from trucks etc on the road which do happen. These are all typical scenarios when traveling to the province. The latter happened to me with my Monty and Strada and just had insignificant/minimal effect. I am satisfied with my Mitsus, but I want to try other rides. - TB should be a bit tougher.

    Thanks for that Info sir niky. And thanks also to those who replied.
    We will be discussing these with my parents these coming weeks, and will have test drives on both vehicles.
    Hopefully by April, we can have either one of these vehicles. Patapusin muna siguro namin yung Auto Show

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    Yung engine ng current model Santa fe ay same din nung Gen 2.5 Santa Fe R-eVGT. Madami na din parts supplier na pwede pag kuhaan bukod sa CASA like Seiring, Fronte at Good Gear.

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    ^2.2 R

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    Wow.. my two top choices also, Im learning from this thread to. Right now Im more inclined towards the Sta Fe rather than the TBZ because considering my priorities in comfort and handling, I would go to the Sta Fe. Features wise and more on the value for money it will go to the TBZ.

    But based on your needs, i think the TBZ will fit you more rather than the Sta Fe. I too, will wait till April or May of this year before we decide which car to buy (simply bec Im waiting for the New Alterra, the Everest and the new Fortuner just in case).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACarEnthusiast View Post
    Wow.. my two top choices also, Im learning from this thread to. Right now Im more inclined towards the Sta Fe rather than the TBZ because considering my priorities in comfort and handling, I would go to the Sta Fe. Features wise and more on the value for money it will go to the TBZ.

    But based on your needs, i think the TBZ will fit you more rather than the Sta Fe. I too, will wait till April or May of this year before we decide which car to buy (simply bec Im waiting for the New Alterra, the Everest and the new Fortuner just in case).
    Fort daw 2015 pa. New everest malabo pa din. Yung MUx nga baka mahintay mo pa.

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    kawawa mga matatanda sa TBZ antaas kasi ng ground clearance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Fort daw 2015 pa. New everest malabo pa din. Yung MUx nga baka mahintay mo pa.
    Hopefully...fingers and legs crossed..

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    By the looks of it, the Trailblazer would suit you better. You seem to take on the rough stuff a lot. The Trailblazer should do better on province duty, and who knows when you might actually be needing that 4x4 function. Sure, it'll probably be more lumbering than the Santa Fe (though not by much), what with it being a traditional truck and all, but you'll definitely be more confident in it. I definitely feel more up to squeezing with jeepneys and buses or fording floods in our Strada GLS Sport V rather than our Gen 2.5 Santa Fe 4x4 (which I tend to baby).

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    Based on your needs sir TS, go for the TB. You'll never regret buying the TB. I've driven both and I can say that both are good vehicles. I like the car like driving characteristics of the SF, I like the power of the TB's upgraded engine and its being spacious.

    You'll like one of the TB's features: it has a built in battery voltmeter on its Driver Information Center. The 2014 models also get an Eco meter display.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ACarEnthusiast View Post
    Wow.. my two top choices also, Im learning from this thread to. Right now Im more inclined towards the Sta Fe rather than the TBZ because considering my priorities in comfort and handling, I would go to the Sta Fe. Features wise and more on the value for money it will go to the TBZ.

    But based on your needs, i think the TBZ will fit you more rather than the Sta Fe. I too, will wait till April or May of this year before we decide which car to buy (simply bec Im waiting for the New Alterra, the Everest and the new Fortuner just in case).
    Yeah. These two will be really the top contenders on a budget of P1.7-1.8M versus the current top seller Monty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    By the looks of it, the Trailblazer would suit you better. You seem to take on the rough stuff a lot. The Trailblazer should do better on province duty, and who knows when you might actually be needing that 4x4 function. Sure, it'll probably be more lumbering than the Santa Fe (though not by much), what with it being a traditional truck and all, but you'll definitely be more confident in it. I definitely feel more up to squeezing with jeepneys and buses or fording floods in our Strada GLS Sport V rather than our Gen 2.5 Santa Fe 4x4 (which I tend to baby).
    Same thought that I would have if I will get the Sta. Fe. I also have my Strada that I use for tough jobs. But still, we are on the process of deciding... up to now...

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