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    I'd get the Santa Fe in a heartbeat if it's mostly for urban use. But then again, there are lots of scenarios where a ladder-frame SUV would be the better choice over a car-based one. Reading the TS' criteria, looks like a ladder-frame SUV is more ideal.

    However, as much as the Trailblazer is great in terms of its specs and real-world performance, I honestly find it ugly both inside and out.
    That alone would make me pick an "inferior" Fortuner or Montero Sport if I needed a truck-based SUV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    I'd get the Santa Fe in a heartbeat if it's mostly for urban use. But then again, there are lots of scenarios where a ladder-frame SUV would be the better choice over a car-based one. Reading the TS' criteria, looks like a ladder-frame SUV is more ideal.

    However, as much as the Trailblazer is great in terms of its specs and real-world performance, I honestly find it ugly both inside and out.
    That alone would make me pick an "inferior" Fortuner or Montero Sport if I needed a truck-based SUV.
    Exactly my point. I mean it really is an awesome loaded SUV with exceptional performance but the looks is just a big turn off for me/for us. Parang trying-hard na awkward na ewan

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    Hmm,
    Both are good, but when I think which car I choose If I am going to purchase then I thaouht 2014 Chevrolet Trailblazer LTZ.

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    Based on your needs sir TS, go for the TB. You'll never regret buying the TB. I've driven both and I can say that both are good vehicles. I like the car like driving characteristics of the SF, I like the power of the TB's upgraded engine and its being spacious.

    You'll like one of the TB's features: it has a built in battery voltmeter on its Driver Information Center. The 2014 models also get an Eco meter display.



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    Quote Originally Posted by numbah5 View Post
    Based on your needs sir TS, go for the TB. You'll never regret buying the TB. I've driven both and I can say that both are good vehicles. I like the car like driving characteristics of the SF, I like the power of the TB's upgraded engine and its being spacious.

    You'll like one of the TB's features: it has a built in battery voltmeter on its Driver Information Center. The 2014 models also get an Eco meter display.



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    Yeah that's nice... Actually I am more of the practical type... But based on the reviews, if we get any of the two, I think we will not be disappointed.

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    though the santa fe is proven to be a good vehicle, i'd vote for the TBZ. more or less, it fits your requirement. and its bang for buck for the features it has. The new Grand SF is truly a wonderful car but it's as if you are paying extra for every feature which is already available in the TBZ.

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    Go for the TB, especially with deep floods becoming the new normal. You won't regret the TB.

    I forgot to tell you also, my TB is already 1 year and almost 3 months. No major problems encoutered. You will also like that its RPM at 100 kph, 6th gear is at 1800 RPM. That makes it very fuel efficient. If you push it to 2000 RPM at 6th gear, speed is 129 kph

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbah5 View Post
    Go for the TB, especially with deep floods becoming the new normal. You won't regret the TB.

    I forgot to tell you also, my TB is already 1 year and almost 3 months. No major problems encoutered. You will also like that its RPM at 100 kph, 6th gear is at 1800 RPM. That makes it very fuel efficient. If you push it to 2000 RPM at 6th gear, speed is 129 kph

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    That's interesting. Well said numbah5.
    How can you compare the engine sound/noise with that of Isuzu Alterra/D-max?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeph View Post
    That's interesting. Well said numbah5.
    How can you compare the engine sound/noise with that of Isuzu Alterra/D-max?
    Well it's quieter than the diesel engines of Isuzu. And one thing that we in the Trailblazer Club noticed, the 2014 TB's engines are more refined and quieter than our 2013 TBs. And also sounds different. Even the motoring journalists like niky and his colleagues also noticed it.

    If the TB isn't a good vehicle, James Deakin wouldn't buy one just a few weeks ago. He is one of our newest members at the Trailblazer Club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbah5 View Post

    If the TB isn't a good vehicle, James Deakin wouldn't buy one just a few weeks ago. He is one of our newest members at the Trailblazer Club.

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    So you are saying that before we decide to buy an SUV, we should peek first at James Deakin garage to see if he has one? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn_duke View Post
    So you are saying that before we decide to buy an SUV, we should peek first at James Deakin garage to see if he has one? lol
    I just cited him because he wouldn't buy the TB if it isn't a good SUV. He can choose to buy a SF or a Fort or a Monty because they are good SUVs also. What I'm saying is, he won't buy a TB if it's not good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbah5 View Post
    Well it's quieter than the diesel engines of Isuzu. And one thing that we in the Trailblazer Club noticed, the 2014 TB's engines are more refined and quieter than our 2013 TBs. And also sounds different. Even the motoring journalists like niky and his colleagues also noticed it.

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    Here's a qoute from Paul Tan's website...Chevrolet introduces 2nd-gen MY14 Duramax diesels

    "Also redesigned are the cylinder head and cylinder block, both lighter but with increased cooling efficiency. Finally, a balancer shaft has been added to reduce vibration/noise and promote smoother operation. The units also feature a new engine control module, featuring newly-developed software, for quicker response and added accuracy."

    It is very clear that the Duramax2 (2014 models -trailblazers/colorados) has a number of enhancements that contribute to its "quiteness" compared with the Duramax1 (2013 model and below). I took a peek on the engine bay of 2014 colorado and found it is now using a new engine control module different than the previous models. Note that NVH levels are a direct influence of engine design and techniques in fuel injection (multi injection) strategy. this requires advanced electronics hardware and software technology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by godwhacker View Post
    Here's a qoute from Paul Tan's website...Chevrolet introduces 2nd-gen MY14 Duramax diesels

    "Also redesigned are the cylinder head and cylinder block, both lighter but with increased cooling efficiency. Finally, a balancer shaft has been added to reduce vibration/noise and promote smoother operation. The units also feature a new engine control module, featuring newly-developed software, for quicker response and added accuracy."

    It is very clear that the Duramax2 (2014 models -trailblazers/colorados) has a number of enhancements that contribute to its "quiteness" compared with the Duramax1 (2013 model and below). I took a peek on the engine bay of 2014 colorado and found it is now using a new engine control module different than the previous models. Note that NVH levels are a direct influence of engine design and techniques in fuel injection (multi injection) strategy. this requires advanced electronics hardware and software technology.

    We will take note of that. Hmmnnn....

    One of the concerns for me too, as I add in my criteria is-- the issues with the Distributors here. We can all read, particularly in the threads etc., a lot of complains regarding HARI and the other Hyundai distributors. Hassle kasi na small issues lang eh could add to your stress. Buti pa tuloy Mitsubishi, kahit hindi ganun ka-famous abroad, has good service (well for us it's good enough), and sales here.

    Also, the rating of Chevrolet being on the upper portion of the 2014 US Vehicle Dependability Study Rating is a major plus for us, even though the particular models like the TB was not mentioned, the company as a whole can take credit on that. Moreover, it's again plus point for us is the Overall Total sales of a brand, like GM (where Chevy is under it), expected to be on the top 3, aside from Toyota and Volkswagen. Unless of course if you're buying your dream car (like Ferrari), the latter won't matter.

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    Tbz for me as I have one myself and was choosing between the Santa Fe and the tbs as well originally. But with the newer engine, the decision becomes a no brainer. Am very happy with mine.


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    Quote Originally Posted by EQAddict View Post
    Tbz for me as I have one myself and was choosing between the Santa Fe and the tbs as well originally. But with the newer engine, the decision becomes a no brainer. Am very happy with mine.


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    This is the problem when we only have few choices left because we only have few models to choose from here in Pinas. Why don't they bring in other quality brands and make those models/brands more affordable?... Just thinking...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeph View Post
    This is the problem when we only have few choices left because we only have few models to choose from here in Pinas. Why don't they bring in other quality brands and make those models/brands more affordable?... Just thinking...
    The Philippines has a smaller car buyers market compared with our ASEAN neighbors. We also entertain second hand units so the smaller market, then we have limited manufacturing plants here and lastly we have left hand drive when most have right hand drive orientation in our area.

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    The used car market is a red herring. Buyers of secondhand used are not the type who would typically buy brand new. The philosophy is different.

    Also, it was only a problem (back when those imports were legal) because of misdeclaration at customs. Simply apply a tax based on local taxes for the same model (or similar), force converters to use original parts and proper conversion kits, and the market for these cars would have thinned out to those looking to collect odd cars.

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    RE: Noise: The TB is nice and quiet. The Montero, until now, is a whistling, whooshing, clattering and very obvious example of turbodiesel power.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    From the Trailblazer's I've encountered on the streets, they are pretty noisy. The engine obviously doesn't bother to hide the fact that it belongs to a tough rig. If you'd heard it, you'd probably think it belongs to an old school diesel. I don't mind though. Like the Strada (which sounds just as truck-like, and with a very loud turbo whistle, might I add), it is tough enough to get away with it. I would mind though, if the Santa Fe sounded like that.

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    TB is also fast na rin, especially with the 2014 models' upgraded engines. niky said before that the TB can now match the acceleration of the SF3 with the upgraded engine

    One thing I like with both the TB and the SF3 is that they both employ European CRDi systems TB's engines are sourced from VM Motori Italia, with inputs by GM's American, Thai and Brazilian engineers, while the SF3's engine was jointly engineered by Koreans and Germans

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    I'd get the Santa Fe in a heartbeat if it's mostly for urban use. But then again, there are lots of scenarios where a ladder-frame SUV would be the better choice over a car-based one. Reading the TS' criteria, looks like a ladder-frame SUV is more ideal.

    However, as much as the Trailblazer is great in terms of its specs and real-world performance, I honestly find it ugly both inside and out.
    That alone would make me pick an "inferior" Fortuner or Montero Sport if I needed a truck-based SUV.
    Quote Originally Posted by santafe33 View Post
    Exactly my point. I mean it really is an awesome loaded SUV with exceptional performance but the looks is just a big turn off for me/for us. Parang trying-hard na awkward na ewan
    Looks are subjective sirs. Some may find the TB's look as good and macho, some won't. For us TB owners, ok naman looks niya especially the macho look of the front. What we don't like are the use of hard plastics in the interior. Pero come to think of it, the 1st generation Fortuner is also tadtad ng hard plastics sa interior. Ganun kasi yung dating Fortuner ko

    Let's not go into bashing of the 2 SUVs. Both TB and SF3 are really great but because of the requirements of Zeph, I would really suggest the TB. A ladder frame SUV fits his requirements and honestly speaking, the TB LTZ 4x4 A/T is the most bang for the buck Thai made ladder frame diesel SUV in the market right now

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