17 pajero vs 17 explorer 2.3

[beebee]

hi guys. now ready to get a new suv after the hectic holidays. pajero vs explorer 2.3. same price, i like both their looks.. concerns:
pajero: since it is going to be discontinued, im wondering about maintenance or parts availability down the road as i plan to keep it for about 6yrs. on the other hand, being discontinued, it would mean it will never get outdated as against a newer model pajero. of course pajero's durability is proven so thats also a plus vs. its design and interiors which is admittedly old already.

explorer: old issues such as FC(sold my 07 explorer last year after getting an everest) or ford service and reliability although did not personally experience any probs with my explorer before except for the aircon. but again the looks and the interiors of the explorer are so much more refined that FC concerns are easily overlooked. am just thinking that by late next year, a new look/model explorer will come out so it will become outdated as against the newer model. while with the pajero, this wont happen..
if it would matter, we currently have 3 cars: e90, mirage g4, 16 everest.. probably sell the everest as 2suvs will be tight for our 3 car garage. dont want to parkanymore on the street like what happened before parang bilis mag fade ng paint.

pardon the lengthy post but have been thinking about this since oct and i cant seem to decide. thanks in advance!

[beebee]

will get one before end of feb excited na kasi eh. tsaka ko na problemahin parking. any other suggestions puede din as long in the same price range. TIA!

[Egan101]

It would really help if you give your choices a test drive. Choose the one that feels good for you. With such a big budget, maybe you can consider the top of the line Explorer 3.5L Ecoboost. It maybe around 300k more expensive but it's one mean-looking and very quick SUV.

[Junichiro]

How often do you plan to use the 3rd row? If you are going to use the car more as a 5 seater, then the Pajero would be a soild choice, mainly because of its cavernous passenger and cargo space due to its boxy design, true 4×4 capability, and tough-as-nails durability. But once you put in more than 5, the 3rd row passengers will be complaining of its narrow and short seat that severely lacks knee and legroom.

Explorer on the other hand has seats that could fit 7 adults comfortably, and cabin thats way polished and advanced compared to Pajero. My concern would be the exaust fume issue which has been plaguing this generation of explorer since 2012, has not been completely resolved yet based on what i've been reading (hoping current gen explorer owners could clarify this).

If between these 2, Pajero would be my pick, especially if I won't be needing more than 5 seats. Or if you can hold on, I'd suggest wait until the new Mazda CX-9 comes out

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[beebee]

How often do you plan to use the 3rd row? If you are going to use the car more as a 5 seater, then the Pajero would be a soild choice, mainly because of its cavernous passenger and cargo space due to its boxy design, true 4×4 capability, and tough-as-nails durability. But once you put in more than 5, the 3rd row passengers will be complaining of its narrow and short seat that severely lacks knee and legroom.

Explorer on the other hand has seats that could fit 7 adults comfortably, and cabin thats way polished and advanced compared to Pajero. My concern would be the exaust fume issue which has been plaguing this generation of explorer since 2012, has not been completely resolved yet based on what i've been reading (hoping current gen explorer owners could clarify this).

If between these 2, Pajero would be my pick, especially if I won't be needing more than 5 seats. Or if you can hold on, I'd suggest wait until the new Mazda CX-9 comes out

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thanks
the 3rd row of the pajero is fine as my youngest and his yaya can fit in it. we tried already. besides i may not sell the everest na din if i can find an extra covered parking. im leaning more on the explorer based on looks alone sana but ive heard a number of complaints in the explorer groups and the 15 and 16 models have those fume issues nga daw as you said, based on their experience first hand.. so what do you think guys, pajero even if its a bit of an "old new model?" will it still remain as a "premium" suv even if it will be discontinued? way Out of budget na kasi mga luxury suvs or more premium ones like LC, kung hindi, no more questions na sana..

[beebee]

It would really help if you give your choices a test drive. Choose the one that feels good for you. With such a big budget, maybe you can consider the top of the line Explorer 3.5L Ecoboost. It maybe around 300k more expensive but it's one mean-looking and very quick SUV.

test driven the pajero and find that its sufficient given that ill be using it city driving most of the time, once a week out of town.. not tried the explorer but siguro naman there are certain similarities with the old explorers which i find to be really powerful. no need din naman for the 4x4 explorer as like i said city lang most of the time. difference lang with the lower and higher variant explorer exterior are the mags.

[jut703]

Since you plan to keep your Everest, I'd recommend the Explorer.

The Pajero is a timeless, tough-as-nails SUV with sufficient power and commanding road presence. However, in terms of comfort and technology, it shows its age as it pales in comparison to the Explorer.

My main gripe with the Explorer is that for such a big car, it's pretty useless when the terrain gets tough. Low ground clearance and car-based chassis means that it's more comfortable on the highway than on a farm road. However, since you mentioned that the car will be used primarily for city driving and that you'll keep the Everest, then the Explorer suddenly fits you perfectly.

The only other drawback is that the 2.3 Ecoboost is nowhere as efficient as the diesel-fed 3.2 4M41 of the Pajero. Both have sufficient power your needs but the Explorer will be thirstier at the pump to the tune of an extra 5k worth of fuel per month. Of course, since you can afford an SUV of this price range, I'm assuming it's not much of a dealbreaker.

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[EQAddict]

You have an Everest already which is already a diesel SUV and which can compete with the Pajero.

Get the explorer for the more modern ammenities, tech toys, paddle shifters, panoramic sunroof and ultimately more powerful engine. Gas shouldnt be an issue for you at this price range.



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[Egan101]

On a different note, why the need for another SUV when you already have an Everest? How about a Lexus IS350? It's a really nice ride for the same price as the Pajero and Explorer 2.3L. You can ferry 5 people comfortably on the city and spoil yourself once in a while with some RWD fun driving.

[ano727]

Curious lang bro, why are you considering to sell your Everest only after 1 year of ownership? Reason of parking space might only be secondary reason.

BTT, between the Pajero and Explorer, best you test drive both. Personally, I would go for Explorer as you already have diesel Everest (kind of redundant with a Pajero).

But if you will open to other options, give the Mazda CX-9 a test drive as well. Among Pajero, Exporer, and CX-9, I would lean towards the CX-9 for better value overall.

Good luck! Let us know what you choose in the end.

[Walter]

Wait for the Mazda CX-9 ... then decide ...

[Egan101]

The upcoming CX9 with the new SkyActiv 2.5L turbo gas engine will be something to consider if you can wait for it. If only HondaPH priced the Pilot within the same range as these vehicles, it is another good choice but they priced it locally around the same as the Ford Expedition Platinum Ecoboost and a discounted VW Touareg V6 TDI.

[beebee]

On a different note, why the need for another SUV when you already have an Everest? How about a Lexus IS350? It's a really nice ride for the same price as the Pajero and Explorer 2.3L. You can ferry 5 people comfortably on the city and spoil yourself once in a while with some RWD fun driving.

as much as i have always eyed the f sport, we wouldnt fit in it unless im the one driving so sedans are out.. will have to make do with my old e90 whenever i feel the urge to drive.. but maybe when my kids are off to college!

[Egan101]

as much as i have always eyed the f sport, we wouldnt fit in it unless im the one driving so sedans are out.. will have to make do with my old e90 whenever i feel the urge to drive.. but maybe when my kids are off to college!

Well, well, well, that E90 will do for your personal enjoyment. I guess you are looking for a more refined 7-seater family vehicle. As much as the Pajero has the heritage and the more outdoor-oriented capability, the Explorer is the better car for city rides. Or as suggested above, you can wait for the Mazda CX9. 3 years of free maintenance cost is definitely worth the consideration for the CX9.

[beebee]

Curious lang bro, why are you considering to sell your Everest only after 1 year of ownership? Reason of parking space might only be secondary reason.

BTT, between the Pajero and Explorer, best you test drive both. Personally, I would go for Explorer as you already have diesel Everest (kind of redundant with a Pajero).

But if you will open to other options, give the Mazda CX-9 a test drive as well. Among Pajero, Exporer, and CX-9, I would lean towards the CX-9 for better value overall.

Good luck! Let us know what you choose in the end.

hmm in answering your question, no diss to the everest owners or to the car itself because it is a very good car and very fuel efficient, it is not classified as a "premium" suv. i must admit that sometimes im guilty of being brand or model conscious but dont get me wrong i like it and actually 1 of the first few who got one(titanium 4x2 only.. nov 2015) but no matter what set up i put in it, still not satisfied.
mazda cx9? havent given it much thought because thinking of the resale value like i said after 6 yrs but will check it out. tnx

[beebee]

Well, well, well, that E90 will do for your personal enjoyment. I guess you are looking for a more refined 7-seater family vehicle. As much as the Pajero has the heritage and the more outdoor-oriented capability, the Explorer is the better car for city rides. Or as suggested above, you can wait for the Mazda CX9. 3 years of free maintenance cost is definitely worth the consideration for the CX9.

nailed it.

[beebee]

The upcoming CX9 with the new SkyActiv 2.5L turbo gas engine will be something to consider if you can wait for it. If only HondaPH priced the Pilot within the same range as these vehicles, it is another good choice but they priced it locally around the same as the Ford Expedition Platinum Ecoboost and a discounted VW Touareg V6 TDI.

will check it tnx. wonder when it will come out

[beebee]

You have an Everest already which is already a diesel SUV and which can compete with the Pajero.

Get the explorer for the more modern ammenities, tech toys, paddle shifters, panoramic sunroof and ultimately more powerful engine. Gas shouldnt be an issue



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noted.. tnx

[Junichiro]

+1 for CX-9 if you could wait for one. Here's a review comparing it to the other 3 row crossovers.

2016 Mazda CX 9 Review and Road Test | DETAILED in 4K UHD! - YouTube

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[beebee]

Well, well, well, that E90 will do for your personal enjoyment. I guess you are looking for a more refined 7-seater family vehicle. As much as the Pajero has the heritage and the more outdoor-oriented capability, the Explorer is the better car for city rides. Or as suggested above, you can wait for the Mazda CX9. 3 years of free maintenance cost is definitely worth the consideration for the CX9.

left field choice, sell the everest first then get a prado albeit gas only. diesel variant i think is out of budget